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Lie by Lie: The Iraq War Timeline »
Posted by: Lurch 1 year, 10 months agoCool interactive timeline of the sexed up intel and the purging of the truth in the Bush admin marketing campaign that led to the Iraq war. Scroll through the timeline by month and/or year. Most in-depth analysis (and user friendly format) of the lies that I have seen yet.
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Lurch
Oct. 31, 2006, 5:32 p.m.Vice President Cheney, appearing on Meet the Press, claims it has "been pretty well confirmed that [Mohammed Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack."He will continue to say this even after the FBI, CIA, and Czech intelligence back off the claim. The 9/11 Commission will debunk it thoroughly.
Just one example of the lies and marketing campaign that the cons have spewed to sell the war to us.
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:36 a.m.http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm
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Lurch did you see this???
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this is the sick mentality of the current administration.
These guys are into total world domination at any cost.
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bubba2
Nov. 1, 2006, 2:33 p.m.Read the documentation and weep.
Bush LIED! Congress voted for his lovely little resolution because the intellegence he allowed them to see was HIS version of it, NOT the actual intelligence.
Check the posted article from Mother Jones about the historical timeline that they put together of the lead-up to the start of the war. Here is that URL -- http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html
Also, check out this URL with a summary of the 2 Senate investigations about the pre-war intelligence --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_of_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq
The 2 senate investigation conclude that the intelligence did NOT support ANY of the 'reasons' to go to war in Iraq.
You need to GET IT ...
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 3:35 p.m.dear Doc...I know you have some intersting stuff to say...but whne you post so much at once I pesonally cant even read it.
Please try to be a bit more concise!!!
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LuvMerlyn4Ever
Nov. 1, 2006, 5:46 p.m.Docj
Be advised you'll be hearing from my attorney scrolling past your post has caused me repetitive stress injury!
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mrkchgo
Nov. 1, 2006, 7:06 p.m.Bush lied and so did all his cronys. Our intelligence sources were saying WMD was not a worry in Iraq and that Saddam was safely contained. Bush and Cheney wanted a war so they doctored the intelligence. Cheney bullied CIA analysts until they gave him what he wanted and when that didn't work he created his own unit to manufacture the lies he wanted to then feed to the AMerican people as unbiased analysis by our intelligence community.
They lied.
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Drazamat
Nov. 1, 2006, 7:32 p.m.DocJ,
I like that list. Good job putting it together.
You know what I think? I think that every official who lied, be it democrat or republican, be brought up on charges and impeached.
I just dont' fuggin understand how the american people can tolerate a public official who represents them and this country lieing.
Does anyone understand the ramifications of what happens when a leader lies to you? It leads to the next conclusion of, what else are they lieing about or plan on lieing about?
It seems like, that bush and his administration are guility of providing false information. This should be grounds for impeachment. But republicans like you DocJ would rather justify, defend, and ultimately divert attention back to the democratic party? Why? Why not be a real american and hold your elected officials accountable?
And this isn't just for republicans.. this is for all political parties. For example. Harry Reid was caught using campaign finance money to give away as gifts ect ect which is prohibited.
Know what I think? Reid needs to be removed from office.
Nick
In Reason We Trust
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ADAGUY
Nov. 1, 2006, 9:27 p.m.Doc, your post is mostly about Sadam, but he is no longer a threat to anyone. How can you still believe that he is why we are still there?
Wake up! ADAGUY
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mamasan
Oct. 31, 2006, 7:35 p.m.very good story Lurch...very detailed...great graphics...
Too bad the topic is so deadly.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:28 p.m.Doc J,
Based on the cooked books Bush showed them yes they reluctantly went along. They would have been crucified if they didn't.
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bubba2
Oct. 31, 2006, 11:50 p.m.Don't see anyone much posting to this one. Guess you can argue with the truth.
I am a PDQ Bach fan ... on one of the early albums, Professor Schichle (I hope I spelled that right) tells a long joke about J.S. Bach and then has a comment about truth. He says ...
"Truth is truth -- you can't have opinions about truth."
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Teech
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:35 a.m.Lies upon lies upon lies upon lies.......gee....after a while, they seem like the truth.
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lfergie812
Nov. 1, 2006, 8:06 p.m.DocJ
You're wasting your time because no one with a mind believes all the trash you spread as a paid shill.
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LuvMerlyn4Ever
Nov. 1, 2006, 6:02 p.m.Lies upon lies upon lies upon lies.......gee....after a while, they seem like the truth.
The Neocon Way:
Creating false realities that fit the power structure's preconceived agenda is completely Straussian. The bad news for us is it's also completely Orwellian. In Nineteen Eighty Four George Orwell warned us of where this would lead if we allowed it to happen - and we know it's not pretty.
As Bush has been told (and has repeated) "You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda" In other words, if you throw enough BS, some of it is going to stick.
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:19 a.m.well if you cant refute it in any way then just keep harping on the Kerry non story.
Ya know fate is funny. One thinks one can dodge it or fake it or escape it...but it really does catch up with us.
The Cons have been playing a very dangerous game ever since Nixon left.
In an attempt to get back in power they have done every dirty trick in the book.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:29 a.m.* it is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. (Thomas Jefferson)
* "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." (Thomas Jefferson)
* "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country (ThomasJefferson) Jefferson knew the threat to legitimate democracy corporations posed. This stuff is more prophetic than Nostradamus's quatrains or the book of revelations because it doesn't broadly generalize with imagery that could be bent to mean almost anything.
* "Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. " (Thomas Jefferson)
Multi-national corporations are machines that seek out wealth with no allegiance to anything or anyone and no remorse for the damage they do to acquire that wealth. This is the nature of corporate entities, which is to be expected. Their interests must be monitored by citizen advocates at all times because the wants and demands of a soulless greed machine will frequently be in conflict with public well being.
* "It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong."
Our democracy starting with reagan and escalating with babybush has been handed over to multinational corporations that have no alliegence to us. If you believe that is good for america vote republican!
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:23 a.m.My thought is the reason the cons party is full of pedophiles and divorces and closeted gays ans so forth is because God is wathcing....and there is equity...you cant be that bad and not get it.
Look at Newt>>>>if you dare......why has he not moved on?
why do these guys think it si thier right to be in power forever?
Newt was kicked out and has the nerve to still be acting like he is a saint....he needs to move on.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, noonNewt is a history revisionist. I despise that because his gullible followers echo the fallacy all over.
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:25 a.m.Pat Buchannon is another one....Why has he not moved on???
What is the fascination for these guys???
They all have fabulous pensions at our expense and yet they still want more.
The only one out of all of them I really liked was Colin Powell....but I knew they would screw with him.
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:30 a.m.http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm
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And here is where is all starts!!!
wake up kids.....teach your children that they need to be discriminating in thier thoughts on war.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:35 a.m.People really need to read that article. Great post mamsan.
Between that and The Project for a New Amaerican Century they laid out for all to see their despicable treasonous intentions.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:32 a.m.* "There was never a good war, or a bad peace." ( Ben Franklin)
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mamasan
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:33 a.m."The classified document makes the case for a world dominated by one superpower whose position can be perpetuated by constructive behavior and sufficient military might to deter any nation or group of nations from challenging American primacy."
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world domination!!!
Have these guys watched too many episodes of Pinky and the Brain!!!!!
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:40 a.m.They feel world domination is their right.
Remind you of any other bad actors from history?
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:45 a.m.Do you believe these people are representing you?
Is what you read here the way you want it done?
These people are supposed to be public servants!
Not stooges of special interests!
Look at the voting records of your politicians.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 11:49 a.m."You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on"
-George W. Bush
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:08 p.m.I like a litle sarcasm now & then.
But unlike the Bushists.
I don't make things up.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:11 p.m.Here is another one that sounds funny but I don't doubt it's a freudian slip.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." G .W. Bush
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miklkit
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:15 p.m.My favorite one is from the movie "Farenhiet 911". Something about "My constituency; the haves, and the have mores."
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miklkit
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:18 p.m.Actually I like this one better.
Love a Democrat. Who ever heard of a good piece of elephant?
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:22 p.m.The cons don't much care sex. So they say.
Now what they do well...
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:19 p.m.Ha Ha!
Yes, the funny thing is people that criticize Moore's work as being unfair have to admit that he did not coerce people into saying these things. They do it on their own.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 12:26 p.m.I actually heard Howard Dean say they would leave the repubs be because they eventually will shoot themselves in the foot. I didn't think that was a good aproach but it sure is working now.
(I wonder if Cheney was aiming for his foot?)
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Mulder
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:10 p.m.Great find Lurch. Too bad the Repugs will avoid this thread like the plague. For them: Ignorance is bliss!!
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CapnBubba55
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:18 p.m.Since everyone seems to like quotes......thought you might enjoy this from 19th century philosopher John Stuart Mill;
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth war, is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:35 p.m.Isn't that exactly what the campaign slogans for the repugs is all about.
Be askeered for your personal safety! Be very Skeered!
Only we can keep you safe.
They are despicable and their followers are either feebleminded or evil.
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Bobcat6
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:30 p.m.Oh please! Haven't we already seen this crap once before? Yes. And it stinks just as bad as the last line of doody like this. U nazi liberals are starting to repeat your BS. Were already tired of your ridiculous bull that U spread but try not to repeat the same thing. YAWN!
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Radiofreeeuropa
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:47 p.m.Yeah Franklin and Jefferson- Nazi liberals?
These were arguably the Greatest Americans of all time.
Chickenhawks brave? give me break.
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CapnBubba55
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:33 p.m.Mulder..........Republicans aren't avoiding this thread my friend. It's just when we see the subject content and read the ill thought submissions posted here, we just sort of feel it's not worthy of any educated persons time to follow the thread. I mean....you're quoting people like Michael Moore and psychopaths like Howard Dean as if they were deserving of even a small amount of respect. The quickest way to lose your credibility is to display, for all to see, that which you deem to be sage and valid intellectual input.
Howard Dean and Michael Moore for God's sake.
Please!!!!!!!!!!
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Mulder
Nov. 1, 2006, 1:45 p.m.In other words Repugs are avoiding this thread. Thanks for sharing that with us. And more importantly thank you for focusing on the story (not). Your myopic view is quite evident, michael moore and dean are not the topic of this thread. Typical Repug ploy, lets not talk about facts when we can instead assasinate someone's character based on inneundo.
Some of you Repugs are getting quite boring and predictable. Reminds me when I had Psych 101 and I had to observe rats in a maze, (trying to duplicate some of Tolman's work). The 'rat' analogy was intentional, the biggest 'rat' being the President of the USA.
So, would you like some cheese with that "whine"?
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