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What does a fence on the United State-Mexico border have to do with goats? 'People are at least as smart as goats,' Lott continued. 'Maybe not as agile. Build a fence. We should have a virtual fence. Now one of the ways I keep those goats in the fence is I electrified them. Once they got popped a couple of times they quit trying to jump it.'

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TechnologyExpert1 year, 3 months ago

"I'm not proposing an electrified goat fence," Lott added quickly, "I'm just trying, there's an analogy there."
Asked for clarification as to what exactly the analogy was, Lott spokesman Lee Youngblood said that the senator supported a variety of measures in the immigration bill, including unmanned aerial surveillance vehicles, radar and more border patrol agents, as well as a fence to reduce the flow of illegal immigration.
"A fence in and of itself is not enough," said Youngblood. "You can have technology to support the fence and to supplement the fence."
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  Neophile1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Wow. Trent Lott loses at life.
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  santa01 year, 3 months ago
  
  now im not a trent lott supporter here... but this is reaching.
  he said something that can be construed as offensive... ok... but not really. he didnt even say that goats were smarter than us. he saying goats cant be stopped by a fense, so people cant be stopped by a fence.
  there are plenty of valid reasons to think trent lott is a tool...
  this really isnt one of them.
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  mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
  
  You can read what he said or ment!! The current fence is easily climbed. Adding another 500 miles would make a longer fence that is easy to climb. Goats can climb a fence if it is short enough. If people are at least as smart as goats that fence will get climbed. He saved tax payers Billions
  Did you know that Bush's family got the 100 million security system contract for Washington state. Did you know it doesn't work???
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  MissPJAdkins1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Come on people. He isn't calling immigrants goats. He is calling PEOPLE goats and the last time I checked, we all fit into that catagory. This story is blown way out of proportion. It's not even news-worthy in my opinion.
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    dandt16121 year, 3 months ago
    
    "He is calling PEOPLE goats and the last time I checked, we all fit into that catagory."
    Well I feel better now knowing he was talking about everyone. I guess that means he was calling himself an Old Goat as well.
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      libsRfunny1 year, 3 months ago
      
      He wasn't calling anyone a goat. The Hispanic writer of the story obviously has an agenda.
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  Sandokan1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Lott is correct, forget the fence ...let's just put more agents or troops on the border. It would give in time, new job opportunities.
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Goppy1 year, 3 months ago

I say let all the Mexicans in.
Most of em believe in Jesus.
Once we convert em to the Southern Baptist religion, we will have critical mass to take over the nation once and for all!!
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  zootallures1 year, 3 months ago
  
  what are you? the borg?
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    mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
    
    A Southern Baptist Borg!!!
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      Sandokan1 year, 3 months ago
      
      LOL ....
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        Teech1 year, 3 months ago
        
        BUILD THE FENCE!. It will cost a few billion dollars and make some Bush campaign donors even richer. Of course it won't keep anyone or anything out, but it's not supposed to. It's just like the "war on terror". It generates trillions for the right people, which is its primary purpose, and accomplishes nothing. (Damn, I'd do anything to get the cost-plus maintenance contract on that sucker, but I don't stand a chance with Hallibuton in the running.) There will be a few gates in the fence, or course, so that any Mexicans who swear to vote Republican and accept a below minimum wage job with no benefits with any major U.S. corporation that supports Republican candidates can come in with no other questions asked.
        Now, you know what Mission Accomplished REALLY means.....the secret is out!
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  RickyDawkins1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Poetry!
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  star531 year, 3 months ago
  
  if they believe in Jesus and if they are illegal then they are breaking are laws( give to Ceaser.....)and many are also breaking GOD's law by voting for dems who support the Killing of babies by abortions( what you do to least do unto Me) and they call themself progessive
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  marlenebomer1 year, 3 months ago
  
  Lovely satire, Goppy! I love it!
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xlegultx1 year, 3 months ago

Well if I was a die hard patriot I be pretty ******ed to see my country get plundered. But then again the idea of human rights holds many die hard patriots from suggesting such an idea.
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    santa01 year, 3 months ago
    
    well, i'm not entirely concerned with what those countries would do, because i live here. in america.
    as a result i am concerned almost exclusively with american policy.
    go figure... weird how that works out hunh?
    and i hold my country to a higher bar than that set by China and North Korea, whatever their policies happen to be. (though they are communists, so though their standard fo living is inhumanely low, they might have a state funded medical system and some form of welath distribution, i dont know, you might want to look it up.)
    the other two counties... as far as taking care of you when you're sick or financially unstable... i think the swiss and the dutch would take care of you in tht case yes. they are big on social programs there.
    but i dotn know that very many illegal immigrants are being taken care of when they are sick or not making it financially...
    oh wait, yes i do. they aren't. they aren't relying on welfare for money or medical bills.
    thats an outright lie.
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      DanmLiberals1 year, 3 months ago
      
      well your telling an outright lie. I see it first hand everyday what happens when an illegal gets sick. They go to the hospital, get health care and then they leave. no bill, nothing.
      Company's I work with hire illegals and I hear everything there is too know about illegal immigrants.
      They dont exactly pay taxes on the money they make so the money that pays for their FREE health care comes from AMERICANS. Not MEXico. and the prisons that have illegals are paid for by AMERICANS. Mexicans can come here and do whatever they want and all that happens is they can get deported.( which is highly unlikely)
      This isnt about other immigrants. It's about Mexicans who are streaming across our border and using their collective power to force our government to make them feel welcome. We need to stop this whether anyone calls them sheep or not.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        how do they have healthcare and not pay for it?
        i dont have healthcare, and i'd like to know, because if i go to the hospital they tell me to go ****** myself.
        what are you talking about?
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        DanmLiberals1 year, 3 months ago
        
        well move to california then.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        i used to live in california and acusing them of having free healthcare doesnt make it so.
        
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        star531 year, 3 months ago
        
        santa wakeup to real world
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        the real world where health care is free and mexicans are the biggest problem facing america?
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        They go to the ER and the hospital is required to treat them whether they can pay or not - Federal law.
        "What is unseen is their free medical care that has degraded and closed some of America's finest emergency medical facilities and caused hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospitals are closing their doors forever. An important cause of these hospital closures is the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985
        Uninsured people get medical care in hospital Emergency Rooms under the coercive EMTALA that obligates hospitals to treat the uninsured but does not pay for that care"
        The same is happening at hospitals all along the border.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        so how does that come out of the taxpayer dollar?
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        it doesn't.
        thats a not a problem of legal status its a problem of collections. we are charging them for the service they are just refusing to pay it. so collections should go after them the same way they would go after me or you if we defaulted.
        but since no one is paying for it... and its a service related charge, the actual lost expense is minimal...
        and legal or illegal, you're talking about a human being, who is injured so badly that they are going to the Emergency Room! are you saying don't treat them?
        is that your solution?
        if a serial killer is in prison and he recieves a head trauma falling he gets medical attention! because we live in a humane society where health insurance may be a joke, but serious injury isnt ignored. we don't just let humans die!
        but these people are mexicans right?! they deserve to die, right!?
        let em bleed to death on the hospital steps! they're mexicans after all!
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        You don't have a clue do you?
        "who is injured so badly that they are going to the Emergency Room are you saying don't treat them" NO
        They use the ER as a family doctor - kid has a stomach ache or sore throat, they go to the ER. Twist your ankle, go to the ER. Have a headache, go to the ER. Get it! It doesn't matter how minimal or major the problem is, go to the ER it's FREE
        Federal law requires that you be treated if you show up. Say you can't pay - it's Free!
        "since no one is paying for it... and its a service related charge, the actual lost expense is minimal"
        You must be joking! When was the last time you were in an ER?? My husband had a deep laceration on his hand on a holiday. Cost total just under $2000
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        "so how does that come out of the taxpayer dollar?"
        1. Hospitals raise the fees to make up the difference. If you use the hospital - you pay. If you have insurance, your insurance cost increases
        2. At public hospitals the cost to operate the hospital over and above what they collect in insurance money gets passed to the taxpayer - property and income taxes. Again YOU PAY
        If the hospital is losing too much money because they are being overwhelmed with illegals and they can't make up the money, what so they do?? They CLOSE like the hospitals in California and border cities have done. Some smaller border towns no longer even have a hospital
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        the 2000 dollars is a SERVICE fee. you arent paying for anything that is tangible and cost 2000 dollars.
        youa re paying 2000 for the SErVICE you recieve. so if you dont pay.. there is no buck to passed on.
        do you understand the differnce between goods and services?
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        So people in the service industry can provide services for free???
        The cost was $2000 because there are too many illegals getting "services" for free.
        At the same time hospitals must pay for building and equipment maintence or replacement, staff salaries, water, electricity and on and on - the "fixed costs" of running a business.
        You do understand that - right??
        Try going to see a lawyer and not pay the bill - after all it is just a service and in your words "no buck to pass on"
        When hospitals reach the point where they can't pay the fixed costs what happens - they close!
        How you simply refuse to understand this is completely beyond me
        
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        its a problem with collections, not with immigration. anyone can go and just not pay...
        and teh difference between a good a service is that with a good there is a debt to be made up, with a service there is none... so no buck is passed on to the tax payers as was your original assertion.
        how you fail to understand THAT is beyond me.
        your argument is so out of left feild...
        they go to the ER for common illnesses? thats unsubtantiated... its not true...
        12 million people are not clogging our ERs with allergy prescriptions... its simply a lie.
        and even if they were, it is illegal to recieve services redered and not pay. they can be arrested for that. so that is a problem with collections and law enforcement, not an immigration policy. that isnt an immigrant problem its a criminal problem...
        its such a scare tactic to rally people.
        and its a racist one at that.
        "mexicans use health care FOR FREE! dont let them in!!!"
        its ridiculous
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        San Francisco Chronicle:
        The other feature of the proposed $2.1 billion tax is its intent to spend vast sums on ER care -- a staggering $902 million each year.
        Illegal immigrants badly overuse ERs instead of tapping into often-free health-care clinics or finding a family doctor. Their behavior cries out for reform, not encouragement. California should spend dough to educate immigrant families to stop using costly ERs as a replacement for the family doctor.
        Border Sense:
        The financial burden on hospitals and ERd has caused many to close. Those which have not yet closed are under increasing financial pressure, and in heavy illegal immigrant areas the wait can be many many hours. This is because illegals often go to an emergency room for minor problems which would normally be treated by a family physician. Because emergency services are free to them, they go there instead, causing long lines and overcrowding. This degrades the service available to legal citizens.
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Rocky Mountain News:
        But once here, immigrants take advantage of the decades-old safety net put in place under President Lyndon Johnson to help the poor.
        It's widely known among undocumented workers, for instance, that hospitals can't turn away patients from the emergency room.
        Wharton University of PA:
        Texas and Arizona point to the social costs of coping with illegal immigrants -- like uninsured emergency-room visits."
        The cost of uninsured medical costs for ER care mandated by Federal law as well as social services benefits for those availing themselves of food stamps etc., and the cost is a multiple of any contribution to the economy. The American taxpayer is paying for it.
        Federal Observer:
        Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement. This court mandate includes illegal alien immigrants. This one court ruling has set the stage for the demise of 100 hospitals in the US
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Federal Observer cont
        In 2005, it cost $200 million to provide for ER care for illegal aliens in the Border States annually.
        Journal Of American Physicians And Surgeons Says Illegal Aliens Threaten Destruction Of American Health Care System
        What is unseen is their free medical care that has degraded and closed some of America's finest emergency medical facilities, and caused hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospitals are closing their doors.
        The hospitals are required by law to take care of these "emergency" patients even if a doctor deems the injury non-life threatening at the time. If they do not take care of a patient they face massive fines & potential lawsuits by litigious lawyers. The government implemented these laws in 1985 & health care costs have skyrocketed. Where does the money to support all these uninsured patients come from? It comes from increased charges to those who can pay & increased health insurance premiums.
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Santa
        Please provide me some links to articles which support your position!
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        badnootka1 year, 3 months ago
        
        BS it doesn't come out of my pocket. Who pays then? The entire medical estqablishment has been paid for by the hard earned dollars of working men and women and for illegals to come here and use our system without contributing to it is a direct theft out of my pocket. It is a cost borne by our nation and therefore by the people who pay taxes. Not the ones who send their paycheques back to mexico.
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        mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
        
        "well your telling an outright lie. I see it first hand everyday what happens when an illegal gets sick. They go to the hospital, get health care and then they leave. no bill, nothing."
        Anyone can go to the hospital and get free "urgent" care. illegal aliens do not get free routine healthcare. I don't understand why people are so jazzed over this when 45 million Americans are uninsured.
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        Because most of those 45 million pay or have paid taxes into the system. More than just sales tax at that. And because the more money that goes towards illegals, the less we have for our own citizens.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        NO MONEY GOES TO ILLEGALS FROM THE HOSPITAL!
        the government does not pick up the bill on their hospital bill (should an emergency arise in which an ilelgal would have to go to the ER).
        it just goes unpaid... and the charge is service related. so the 1500 dollars bill is not for the paper cast on his arm, its for the 45 minutes it took to get it.
        so if no one pays for that, than its not 1500 dollars lost, its the cost of a cast and the time of the doctor.
        and it happens much more infrequently than people who hate mexicans would like you to believe.
        not to mention that if it didn't, it wouldnt be a problem with the hyocratic oath, and not with our immigration process.
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        Actually it does cost the government where public hospitals are concerened. If the hospital is not a private one, then equipment, medications and other costs are absorbed by the city (ie. tax payers) when illegals and citizens don't pay. Not all hosptals are private.
        So when an emergency room is not allowed to turn anyone away, and that person doesn't pay. It does cost the tax payers money. And if illegals are doing it on top of citizens, it hurts the quality of care everyone gets.
        "should an emergency arise in which an ilelgal would have to go to the ER"
        Also, illegals know that an emergency room is not allowed to turn them away. So they, like poor citizens, go to the emergency room for every little thing. Not just for emergencies. Which is even more money shifted to the tax payer.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        for every little thing?
        what a joke.
        illegal immigrants arent going toth emergency room with ear infections. its just not true.
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        Yes they do. Lots of people go to the emergency room for ear infections and everything else because they have no insurance. That's common knowledge. You can plug your ears and scream La-La-La all you want.
        Many people go to emergency rooms even with insurance for petty stuff if the doctor's office is closed for the day. Where the heck do you live where this doesn't happen?
        And I notice you didn't bother to refute my points about public hospitals and tax payer money.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        thats because it is irrelevent. its sevice being rendered not goods. there is no debt on the transaction. virtually no buck is passed to a taxpayer... and the unpaid fees are a criminal and default payment problem, not an immigrant problem.
        to simply say that 'mexicans dont pay hospital bills" is racist and its a lie.
        some people dont pay hospital bills. that is true... adn to fix it you go to collections like anything else... its law enforcement not INS...
        you're silly...
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        badnootka1 year, 3 months ago
        
        How do we go about collecting a default payment from an illegal alien? Don't even know where to find them to begin with. Every health care complaint that our medical establishment treats is a cost to the tax payer regardless of who is using the system. I don't care if it is illegal mexicans or illegal martians, they do not contribute to the costs and I should not be picking up a portion of their tab. Maybe I should stop paying taxes and turn to the government to take care of my needs. Wait, I can't do that because I am an American Citizen, not an illegal immigrant. Stop the madness and take back control of who enters our country. And if the fence you build does not keep them out then you did not build the right type of fence.
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        "thats because it is irrelevent. its sevice being rendered not goods. there is no debt on the transaction. virtually no buck is passed to a taxpayer... and the unpaid fees are a criminal and default payment problem, not an immigrant problem."
        Clearly you're having trouble grasping the concept. You see, public hospitals recieve their money from the city. All the gauze, asprin, CAT scan machines and other things are paid for with taxpayer and patient money. If the patients don't pay for this stuff, that is more that the government must come out of pocket. The government gets its money from the people.
        You are right, it is a defualt payment problem. Illegal immigrants exacerbate what is already a problem.
        
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        "to simply say that 'mexicans dont pay hospital bills" is racist and its a lie."
        I didn't simply say anything about mexicans. I said illegal immigrants. All of them. It just so happens that the majority of them right now are Mexicans. And I have said more than once that our own citizens do this too and that is a problem. You can ignore that so that you can call me a racist to "win" this discussion if you want. But don;t ignore what I have said to do it.
        
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        queenb7271 year, 3 months ago
        
        "some people dont pay hospital bills. that is true... adn to fix it you go to collections like anything else... its law enforcement not INS..."
        INS is part of law enforcement. They enfore the law where illegal immigrants get sent home for being...here illegally. I've stated myself that some people don't pay hospital bills. In fact, I'm the one in this discussion who brought up our own citizen's illegal activity and didn't just focus on illegal immigrants. But they exacerbate the problem. Why should they get a free pass?
        "you're silly..."
        You're silly, clueless and wrong.
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        oldgringo1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Santa...California and other border states routinely publish the estimated costs of state services spent on illegal immigrants. The costs are staggering, from hospital care(look up anchor babies) to prison costs and schooling of illegals' children. When my last child was born in a San Diego hospital, four of the six babies born were to non-citizens who received "special financing" and bragged about it. They also told my wife how she could get free milk through the hospital. Signs in the maternity ward read, in English and Spanish, that the hospital could not ask for a patients' immigration status when being considered for financial aid. You are either naive or lying . Oh,by the way, I'm not a Mexican hater. My wife is fron Mexico City.
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        We mexicans don't use up all the tax money!!!!! Cause guess what we pay for the taxes too. And we should get money from taxes cause we deserve it more than you do.!!!!!
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        oldgringo1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Actually, if you're illegal, you don't deserve anything. But your attitude is pretty typical. You think you somehow have the right to be here, and take what you want.
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        Leather-neck1 year, 3 months ago
        
        ROTFLMAO
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        Tigra1 year, 3 months ago
        
        what a stupid statement! NOEHERNANDEZ- "And we should get money from taxes cause we deserve it more than you do.!!!!!"
        care to elaborate on why it is you feel that mexicans deserve tax dollars above US citizens?
        
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        mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
        
        They think six states are occupied territory!!!
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        hamy1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Then you are a huge part of the problem. If you work with companies that hire illegal immigrants and don't say anything, you have no right to complain about them.
        They are coming here to work. If they are being given jobs, that employer is also breaking the law, just like the illegal immigrant. Punish the people who are hiring them hard and you will see a drop in illegal immigration.
        And you need to stand up for your country DamnLiberals. You can't complain about something you have a hand in perpetuating.
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        I speak here for all the immigrant community.Haters like you don't understand that without us you people are nothing!!!!!!!! But hey you are never going to kick us all out of "your" country we are 12 million illegal plus legal people who are on our side.Come on you take 5 illegal people out today tomorrow there is 10 here.Just face it you can never do anything to us.Remember the god guy always wins and we got god by our side.
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        Leather-neck1 year, 3 months ago
        
        What are you the Jessie Jackson of Mexico? "I speak here for all the immigrant community." I have some bad news for you, you only speak for yourself.
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        badnootka1 year, 3 months ago
        
        No, it is the other way around. Without us you are nothing. WIthout you we are stronger and richer. We will build the fence and keep users like you out. If youwant to cone here and work then apply like the thousands of legal mexicans do every year. Don't just sneak in here and expect us to look after you. We should round you all up and send you back.
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      mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
      
      Good point the 20,000 members of MS13 rob and kill people they don't need welfare!!
      Oh you will get two years in a Mexican prison for being an illegal immigrant!!!
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    mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
    
    Try Mexico, they would greet you with a two year jail sentence... they don't want rif raf in their country
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EZkajun1 year, 3 months ago

Not a fan of Lott at all but I do agree on what he was trying to say. People are smater than goats and they will find a way over, under, thru or around a fence but if you hit them with something else like jail time, fine or even better yet a law which states anyone who is caught in the U.S. illeagly will serve 30 days in jail, pay a fine and can never ever receive a green card to enter the U.S
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  lvrofwolves1 year, 3 months ago
  
  I don't like the 30 days in jail idea, because that would just cost more tax payers $, why not just a bus ticket or a new pair of shoes and a canteen to walk back. We can't realistically enforce them to pay fines either. But I definately agree never to recieve a green card, BIG fines for those who hire illegals,they are after all committing complicity to committing a crime, and jail and fines for coyotes.
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    RickyDawkins1 year, 3 months ago
    
    It's only a crime if WE say it is a crime. These are REFUGEES, think about it!
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      mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
      
      From what????
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jai611 year, 3 months ago

At least the Immigrants work harder than Politicians like Trash Lott.
Too bad we don't worry about the Illegal Doings of politicians like we do the Mexiacans,
I guess stopping Illegal Mexicans will solve all our countries problems.

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  funatwork1 year, 3 months ago
  
  I agree that politicians are horribly corrupt and their ethical issues need to be addressed but just because A needs attention doesnt mean you forget about B. Illegal immigration is an issue and depending on where you live a major one and something needs to be done. It is possible to tackle more than one problem at once.
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    santa01 year, 3 months ago
    
    what is the problem?
    i lived in a border town. it wasnt a real problem there. it was a made up one.
    they take jobs that other people wont because they work cheaper. export them all and youll still need to fill those jobs. to do that youll have to pay more money.
    if these restaurants and small business are forced to pay more money they will shut down, because the living standard in america is misproportionately high for the actual worth of most of the country.
    cause we live on credit.
    we are nation in debt and in order to sustain it we need someone to pull more weight proportionally than the wages they recieve.
    used to be black people and women. but we've worked hard to gain equal footing for everyone.
    now we are even more in debt and more on credit.
    so latin immigrants must sustain the servantile class.
    get rid of them and americans will have to fill it.
    its not an immigration problem. its a problem with the distribution of wealth and the circulation of our economy.
    
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      santa01 year, 3 months ago
      
      but i understand... thats too complicated of a problem. takes to too much thought and humility to accept that.
      so rather than deal with the issue at hand...
      "deport the mexicans!"
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        "deport the mexicans" use your brain for once! Without mexicans you are NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        use your brain for once. i was obviously being sarcastic. read the post above.
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        Wasn't talking about you I'm talking about haters like "hamy".
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        mark-stevens1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Why should we think Mexicans are special? What was the Alamo all about or that mexico worked with Gemany during world war one. They want to put Dog in jail for taking a serial rapist of the streets. they put Americans in jail for TWO YEARS for being an illegal immigrant.
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        lvrofwolves1 year, 3 months ago
        
        noemihernandez90-Illegals are stealing from us! of course we hate the crime!
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        theyve stretched the welfare system? how?
        are you saying that the mexican immigrants in texas are on the welfare system?
        thats an out right lie.
        americans have stretched the welfare system plain and simple.
        mexicans arent crossing the border for our welfare.
        and as far as americans doing any job... maybe... but not 80 hours a week for 5 bucks an hour.
        even the assertion that an american would take the same job is ridiculous, because if it were true, you know who the employer would have hired? an american.
        they speak english. they have legal papers. and if the IRS catches the employer paying them, they dont get shut down.
        there is no reason to hire an illegal immigrant if you could get an american to do it for the same amount of money...
        it even costs more to the employer, as the wages paid to an immigrant are undocumented and thus taxable profit.
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        DanmLiberals1 year, 3 months ago
        
        DUDE it is two words: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Im an AMERCICAN and I cant even get my wife here from the Philippines because she has to wait in line. But the Mexicans cross that line and the border and think they have more rights than other immigrants. MExicans need to wait in line to. Plain and simple.
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        DanmLiberals1 year, 3 months ago
        
        BTW,Cesar Chavez HATED illegal immigrants. He was smart enough to know that the low paying jobs will ALWAYS stay low because there is always some illegal that is willing to undermine a person asking for more money.
        Let's put it this way. One illegal has a job for five years and ask for a pay raise for his hard service. Another illegal mexican crosses the border and the company hires him for nothing instead of giving the other 5 year veteran a raise. Simple enough for you. Figure it out.
        On the other hand. They dont pay taxes and they can keep everything they want. and if they become legal then they get our social security money that they DIDNT PAY ONE CENT FOR. It's not fair but the Mexicans think it is. Who do we want to listen to? Us or them
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        if youre an american citizen then youre wife has a green card.
        stop making it sound like mexicans are the reason your wife cant get here. if she's realy having a problem getting a flight then fly her into tiajuana and walk her across the border.
        im sure you could find someone who knows the way.
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Immigrants often take advantage of public services, such as healthcare and welfare, costing the United States billions each year.
        Although illegal immigrants are ineligible for welfare, food stamps and other public service programs, they can obtain some of them by using false identification papers. It's a big business and not difficult to create an identity for this purpose.
        Other services, such as walk-in clinics, do not ask for identification at all, so patrons can simply make-up a name and social security number to get treated.
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        santa01 year, 3 months ago
        
        but they either pay cash (at a walk up clinic) or degault payment (at the ER). it doesnt cost the tax payer anything.
        and welfare and food stamps?
        you're ridiculous. its so easy to check that out. look at border states and towns and see if the welfare numbers are abnormally higher than towns with fewer projected immigrants and similar economic structures...
        but they aren't.
        they're the same.
        because mexicans are not coming here for welfare.
        its a lie people who hate mexicans make up.
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        Estimates of the number of illegals who have Wisconsin IDs and driver's licenses are somewhere in the area of 350,000 to 400,000
        The increased costs at the DMV centers are undoubtedly a drop in the bucket compared to the costs that the illegals impose on the state and county welfare systems. All of the DMV agents whom we interviewed affirmed that it is a common occurrence for illegal immigrants to use Wisconsin QUEST cards (which are used to get foodshare benefits) and Wisconsin Forward cards (which are used to access Medicaid and Badgercare healthcare programs) as proof of their identity when applying for licenses and IDs, indicating that the first priority for many illegals upon entering the state is to obtain welfare benefits at taxpayer expense.
        
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        nostalgia1 year, 3 months ago
        
        When The New American called a state welfare representative to find out to what extent illegal immigrants can take advantage of welfare programs to obtain food aid, healthcare, housing allowances, and child care, she would only tell us that each county determines eligibility and that eligibility is mainly dependent on one's income level.
        http://www.apostille.us/news/illegal_immigrants...
        If that is the case in Wisconsin, you can only imagine what is happening in the border states
        "its a lie people who hate mexicans make up."
        Maybe you should try doing a google search on the subjects before you post. It will at least make you look a little more informed so you don't have to use hate-mongering tactics
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        We do not take advantage of public services we are not like you people that go to the emergency room just because of a paper cut! Please you people are ridiculous.So stop hating on Mexicans get a life because it dosen't seem like you have one!!
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      oldgringo1 year, 3 months ago
      
      Again Santa, you're twisting the truth. Illegals depress everyones wages. It's simple. If I own a car wash and pay my American employees more than Jose, who owns a car wash down the street and hires illegals, than Jose's overhead is much less than mine. He can charge less than I do, and I'll lose my customers to him. That forces me to hire illegals or pay my US employees less. It is an immigration problem. You want the wealth re-distributed to illegals. That's the truth.
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        noemihernandez901 year, 3 months ago
        
        Look stop hating on Jose cause he has better brains than you!

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