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Posted by: HomerJS49 1 year, 1 month agoAs things stand today, about 60 citizen camera crews and about 200 citizen volunteers are needed to conduct a "citizens' exit poll" to double check the easily rigged Diebold electronic voting machines which the Iowa GOP intends to use to "count" the vote at the Ames, Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, 2007
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
I seem to recall other exit polls, many exit polls, that gave the presidency to John Kerry. So how will this be different, should someone fool with the machines? No one blinked when the exit polls were so off....for the first time in the history of exit polls, in 2004. In fact, faux news placed the blame on the pollsters. Didn't even consider there was a 'problem' with the count of a conservative owned companies hackable machines.
Of course the obvious is to get rid of privately owned voting machines, but doing the obvious is not much of a concept in America any more.
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HomerJS491 year, 1 month ago
Here we still use the old fashioned mechanical machines. You close the curtain with a handle, press little levers to choose, then pull the handle back again. The curtain opens, the levers reset, you vote is recorded. Simple. The biggest problem they say is that the counter wears out so when it gets to 99 thats as far as it goes. No big issue though they just replace it before the next election.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
We use paper, and a pencil, LOL! Gotta fill in those little circles. We can 'choose' a computerized machine, but I was told very few did in 2004. WA is going to a complete mail in ballot system. No more voting places. If there is a copy to keep, I'm all for it. If there isn't, I'm going to make a copy, and then yell that people need a receipt.
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scriblerus11 year, 1 month ago
Lots of people blinked at the results of the 2004 election, but Kerry didn't fight. There are countless stories on how the election was stolen--and it WAS stolen. There is simply no question about it. Exit polls are never that far off.
I remember driving home from my poll watching job at two in the afternoon listening to KPFA and hearing that the exit polls indicated a landslide in Kerry's favor. Then I went to my Dem election party and watched a nail-biter till the last minute when Ohio was called for Der Fuehrer Bush. Then over the next several weeks hearing how Blackwell used every sleazy trick in the book to screw over heavily Dem precincts.
Kerry should have fought till the last dog died. He simply let us down.
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scriblerus11 year, 1 month ago
BTW, I just mentioned KPFA. I'm going to start shamelessly promoting them. This station is by far--bar none--the very best radio station in the nation, if not in the world. You can listen via the internet. They are entirely listener supported. Check them out:
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jordan111 year ago
Lots of people blinked at the results of the 2004 election, but Kerry didn't fight. There are countless stories on how the election was stolen--and it WAS stolen. There is simply no question about it. Exit polls are never that far off.>>>>
You're right. I should have narrowed it down more to the media, and the Congress....the one's who are 'supposed' to investigate these things, and help Americans to think.
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jordan111 year ago
Kerry should have fought till the last dog died. He simply let us down.>>>>
I agree he should have fought, though he probably knew he wouldn't win. The deck was stacked in the DOJ, the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the media. But he should have done the right thing anyway.
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scriblerus11 year, 1 month ago
We need Hugo Chavez to send in some poll watchers to ensure that our elections are on the up and up.
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truthiness1 year ago
if you want to know how the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen/rigged then watch this video testimony before the house judiciary comittee which resulted in no action..why no action? could it be corruption?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBI33kOiKc
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bumbaklotartattack1 year ago
This is a better one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-365586...
It shows ballots being thrown away before the alloted deadline. The government did NOTHING!
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aniokly1 year ago
OMG, you people cannot be that simple-minded. They poll outside every precinct in Chicago. The Captain uses Union thugs. They think I am the best Democrat in Cook County. No one is entitled to know how you voted, so you lie. A group of us always voted early, then went to breakfast, and laughed about how we lied to the stupid Democrats. It was a game. There will never be a voting machine simple enough for the pitiful Democrats, if they win the machines are fine, if they lose, it has to be rigged machines. What a hoot
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truthiness1 year ago
aniokly,
2004 was the first time the exit polls were so disparate from the vote results that they had to stop reporting the polls. and the margin of error is designed to include trolls like you.
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SlapALib1 year ago
Here's a simpler method.
-Just get a box for each candidate.
-Each box has a different colored, different sized marble, with the candidate each box represents labeled with name and picture, at least.
-The voter takes a marble out of the box of their choice and puts it in a central tube.
-The marble rolls down the tube over various size holes until it finds the hole of its size.
-The marble falls through the hole, and a switch captures the fall and counts a vote for the candidate chosen.
-The marble rolls down a tube that is connected to its hole back to the candidate's box.
-Next voter.
That way there are no refills needed that might indicate which candidate is ahead. Put a lid on the box with the candidate's information, and it'd be pretty hard for people to say they didn't know who they were voting for.
Instantaneous results, no fuss, no muss.
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truthiness1 year ago
thats a good concept- I'd probably have the marbles sit in a box at the other end so there could be a second count if needed...but the idea does seem fool proof.
of course nothing is fool proof b/c fools are so ingenious
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