Plamegate Finale: We Were Right; They Were Wrong »
Posted By scott4261 11 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsIn his farewell column, David Corn assesses the impact of the outing of Valerie Plame: The Bush Administration and its neocon enablers were proven dishonest about both the CIA leak and the Iraq War.
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scott426111 months, 3 weeks ago
Despite what the shills say, this is what really happened. David Corn is spot on! Good on him for exiting with such a great article.
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NoWayMan11 months, 3 weeks ago
"just keep pumping out the dogma, keep telling the lie and one day it will be seen as truth," said the guy whose party pumps out lies on a daily basis.
typical con. falsely blaming others for doing exactly what the cons are doing, while the cons are actually doing it.
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sir_samurai11 months, 3 weeks ago
"just keep pumping out the dogma, keep telling the lie and one day it will be seen as truth."
You should know, DARTH-ROVE, that's just what Bush-the-butcher has been doing since 9-11, and thats why his druid followers still believe:
Saddam is involved and linked to 9-11?
Saddam was amassing new nuclear materials and yellowcake?
Saddam was mobilizing Al Qaeda terrorists to invade civilian home areas and kill family members?
Saddam's WMDs were such a dangerous threat to the world "which will come in the form of a mushroom cloud"?
Saddam has been profiteering from crude oil price tinkering against the interest and pockets of American citizens at the pump (and tax $$$$)?
Hey wait, isn't all the above EXACTLY what this lying, fear-mongering, war-waging, crony contracting, political corruption regime in the white house under Bush-the-butcher has been all about, all along???
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PapaWolf11 months, 3 weeks ago
I KNOW I'm going to regret this because, as the name "Darth-Rove" implies, this is a Sith lord who excels in demeaning, denigrating, obfuscating, ruining & destroying of the truth. But....
Exactly WHAT lies are you talking about?
(or, more grammatically correct - About what lies, exactly, are you talking?)
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lfergie81211 months, 3 weeks ago
The stupidity of the people that is defending this outing of an agent is ridiculous. Anyone with HALF a brain can see it for what it is but for those no brains idiots that cannot or will not see it is beyond words. Ah, but what do we expect from lemmings that follow their leader over the cliff?
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capecoralM11 months, 3 weeks ago
David Corn shows in this article what a Pompas Ass he truly is. If this mud slinger was correct about this being some sort of crime then why the Hell is Novak and Armitage still walking the streets?
In his July 2006 Article in the NAtion Cornm Wrote:
One mystery solved.
It was Richard Armitage, when he was deputy secretary of state in July 2003, who first disclosed to conservative columnist Robert Novak that the wife of former ambassador Joseph Wilson was a CIA employee...Speculation regarding Woodward's source quickly focused on Armitage. Last week, the Associated Press disclosed State Department records indicating that Woodward had met with Armitage at the State Department on June 13, 2003. In pegging Armitage as Woodward's source...
So this alleged crime, after three years of investigation, numerous grand jury hearings, a political witch hunt trial of Libby and Armitage has not been charged? Some crime he claims to be so right about. These Libs now believe their own lies.
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injest11 months, 3 weeks ago
BTW doesn't David Corn have a book or 2 on this "grand conspiracy?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
End of an Affair
It turns out that the person who exposed CIA agent Valerie Plame was not out to punish her husband.
Friday, Sepr 1, 2006; A20 © 2006 The Washington Post Company
WE'RE RELUCTANT to return to the subject of former CIA employee Valerie Plame because of our oft-stated belief that far too much attention and debate in Washington has been devoted to her story and that of her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, over the past three years. But all those who have opined on this affair ought to take note of the not-so-surprising disclosure that the primary source of the newspaper column in which Ms. Plame's cover as an agent was purportedly blown in 2003 was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage.
Translation. Their was no plot or conspiracy to out Plame and damage her husband
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injest11 months, 3 weeks ago
BTW doesn't David Corn have a book or 2 on this "grand conspiracy?" how does that old adage go? Follow the money. How much is his "grand conspiracy?" worth if it proved to be false? How much is the book/film deals worth on a fake story?
Think all these folks might just have a vested interest to keep this story alive?
Are you dumb enough to still hold out hope that this farce is true?
Follow the money Follow the money Follow the money
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Blackacereturn11 months, 3 weeks ago
It's shocking to me that only one person went to jail over this...If these guyes are the real Americans as they like to say I would not want to meet the fake or bad Americans!
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jordan1111 months, 3 weeks ago
Now, if only the American people will take note of that. We'll see in 2008.
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UncontrollableScaldingDiarrhea11 months, 3 weeks ago
Yawn.
Corn is obssessed with his white whale indeed.
Hitchens already owned Corn on the issue over a year ago.
Some people just don't know when to stay down.
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sinophil4911 months, 3 weeks ago
uncontrollable - Are you saying that it is perfectly acceptable and legal to out a covert US agent? To ruin years of covert work and the network of contacts she made? To endanger her contacts and operatives that could have continued for years to help our inerests? To force the shutdown of her cover, Brewster, Jennings, & Associates that actually was the cover of several CIA operations and further endanger all of those contacts, as well?
Robert Fiske, Ken Starr, and David Ray spent about 6 yrs and millions of dollars (?24mill?)pursuing Clinton on a failed business deal and a sexual affair that hurt only himself and his family. Those ended with no convictions.
Yet you would dismiss these treasonous acts of Bush, Cheney, and Rove that hurt perhaps hundreds of USA sympathizers and hurt our national security?
What kind of an ignorant, apathetic American are you?
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Teagen11 months, 3 weeks ago
On the Kenn Starr issue, there were many more questions than answers when it came to the Clinton's business dealings. The ironic part of that was most of the questionable business practices were done by Hillary not Bill. Ken was looking into Bill, not Hillary. Now I know you're going to go nuts on my statements but think about it. Hill was the lead on the Rose billing records that were lost in her office. Hill was the lead in the Tyson and Walmart investments. Hill was the contact with Global Crossing and White Water.
On your other statements, let's think about the CIA and their "great" cover story Brewster Jennings. Val was so high level, her handlers gave her a fancy address without renting an office or even a mail box in that building. Some CIA plan, must be the same guys who planned operation Eagle Claw. Even Maxwell Smart would have caught this. The whole thing stinks of a CIA cover story.
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cowboygrandpa11 months, 3 weeks ago
sinophil49: The type who only cares about the wealthy and the corporations. To me the worst kind of American. More concerned with party over country.
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cowboygrandpa11 months, 3 weeks ago
Wolfie2007: Thats true. Has it jumped up and bitten you yet. You seem to be denial of the truth. Sounds to me like you and your ultra conservative B.S. is the spinner around here. Watch out you don't spin out of control and bounce off DAR-ROV out there in your alternate universe. The White house is guilty of treasonous acts and you and your kind back them. Just like you did Ollie Noth and their ilk. You are a blind spinner leading the blind into the morass of stupidity. Keep it up you will have your 30% of the I vote party over country every time.
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sinophil4911 months, 3 weeks ago
Wolfie - Why don't you do us the favor of educating us as to what passages or facts Mr Corn wrote are lies?
Conversely, are you saying that everything Bush, Cheney, Rove, Libby, and Novak about their roles in the Plame affair is unvarnished, untainted truth?
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scriblerus111 months, 3 weeks ago
Corn's a great writer. But having Plame on 60 Minutes last Sunday will put yet more downward pressure on Bush and the Republicans' approval polling. Americans have gradually been forced to face the facts of the disastrous Repubican rule which started in 1994 with the Gingrich purge and greatly accelerated with Bush's theft of the 2000 election.
When the Dems win back the presidency and achieve solid majorities in Congress in 2008, things won't become perfect suddenly, but we will at least be back on the right track.
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Teagen11 months, 3 weeks ago
How do you figure that? When we watched it in the common room, the guys were asking more questions than actually listening to her answers. She's now claims to be a high asset to the CIA. If she were why would the former CIA Iraq Mission Manager Robert L. Grenier appear as a government witness in the trial against Libby. He testified he told Libby that the idea of sending ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger was the brainchild of Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, who worked in the CIA office that sent him in 2002. No where did he mention that Val was covert, at least in his discussions with Libby. Was this a set up to cover the CIA's butt. Since the Gulf War, the CIA has reported to past Presidents, Saddam has WMD or is trying to build it. Bush 41 and Clinton had reports stating that. I think this is a CIA cover story to take fire away from their own short comings. I think I've figured out the secret. The CIA is covering up for thier mistakes on Iraq.
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hyperbola11 months, 3 weeks ago
Come, come. We have evidence from government documents all over the world that bushie was lying to Americans, the UN and the world. Plamegate was just another series of bushie zioncon lies - from the people who think it is their duty to lie to you because they know what is best for you.
Most recently the spanish government has documented bushies lies to the world - with direct transcripts of bushies private conversations.
Bush's Faith Run Over by History
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174850/mark_dan...
Following is the transcript of the conversation between George W. Bush and José Marìa Aznar in Crawford, Texas, on February 22, 2003. It is an English translation of the text published in El Paìs on September 26, 2007.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20770
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PapaWolf11 months, 3 weeks ago
>>Since the Gulf War, the CIA has reported to past Presidents, Saddam has WMD or is trying to build it. Bush 41 and Clinton had reports stating that.
Well, we do know that Saddam HAD WMD's. After all, we sold them to him. And we supported their use during his Iran war during the Reagan & Bush admins.
Even during the early to mid-90's, he had them. That was the whole point of the inspectors who, btw, accounted for and/or destroyed just about ALL of his WMD's.
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