Clinton Hits Rough Patch As Iowa Showdown Nears »
Posted by: Aidenag 9 months, 2 weeks ago144 Comments Report this Story
In two recent polls of likely Iowa caucus-goers, Sen. Clinton was slightly ahead in one, but her chief rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, had retaken the edge in the other. A decisive Clinton victory in Iowa potentially could clinch the nomination; a loss, or even a close call, makes her vulnerable in the states that follow.
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joeblowe9 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah, Yeah, blah,blah.blah. I suspect the reason she is slipping in the polls is that people are finally starting to get serious about the 2008 election. And they are discovering that although they might like the idea of a woman president, they don't like the idea of THIS woman as president.
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mesodude9 months, 2 weeks ago
"Yeah, Yeah, blah,blah.blah. I suspect the reason she is slipping in the polls is that people are finally starting to get serious about the 2008 election."
LOL...Is that supposed to inspire some kind of confidence in the American electorate? Look what the hell we allowed to get into the White House for the past seven years. Bawahahahahahaha! Yeah, we should all be sooooo scurrrrrrred of Hillary after the piece of horsesh*t we've had running our country since 2000. Riiiiight...
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TOD3969 months, 2 weeks ago
I wonder if there will come a day when a Democrat doesn't refer to Bush's presidency. Regardless of the topic, Democrats here seem bent on always bringing it back to Bush. Is there a reason Mess o dude, that you can't respond to the topic at hand. hillary is slipping in the polls. Obama has edged out in front of her. Bush had nothing to do with either event. Here is an example to show you how it's done:
I feel that Hillary is going to continue to slip in the polls in a sawtooth fashion, as the spotlights shine a little brighter on her and her past. She will change her stance as often as her clothes. And it is becoming very apparent as the media is forced to bring these issues out in the open.
Before, she was a darling for the media because she was in the background as a human interest story. Now, they are forced to be more accurate in their portayal of her and she isn't coming across as the stateswoman she wanted us to beleive she was.
See Messodude, that wasn't hard
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Macondo9 months, 2 weeks ago
Personally I do not dislike the idea of a woman as president.
I just think her adviser's in free trade agreements specially towards Latin America are misinformed, (very wrong!)
I was a supporter of her candidacy until recently.
When I found out she is repeating like a parrot whatever she hears from this "experts", I question her judgment for other issues.
After writing to her Electronic Mail the computer generated answer decided I am a New Yorker (I am not) and gave me the walk.
I have shifted my support away and encourage others to do so.
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afoaf9 months, 2 weeks ago
have you considered placing your vote with a third party candidate that more closely fits your political views?
not voting is a wasted voice...if the establishment sees enough people willing to place votes with third party candidates due to their policies then those policies may be brought into the political fold by the major parties.
by not voting you tell them that your vote isn't worth fighting for.
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MRCOFFEECAKE9 months, 2 weeks ago
This is what happens to the Democratic front runner EVERY time. They fight to be a frontrunner then refuse to be prepped as an assumed nominee and fail to begin the process of "acting [presidential"...
Go back 30 years..Carter was never the frontrunner,
Mondale was an insider against Ronnie the actor, who played the part well...Dukakis imploded as a joker..
Then Clinton, like Carter, came out of nowhere...
Howard Dean was the frontrunner, and continued to grapple instead of acting like an assumed nominee,and that is why I left the campaigb (pre-Iowa)..Hillary will fall to the same fate..Obama is likely to be the nominee, even though Hillary will go down fighting. It's going to get nasty..
Only bill can save her. if it gets too nasty gore will have to step in. These people just do not know how to present themselves with dignity..
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mesodude9 months, 2 weeks ago
What people of impeccable character did you vote for in the last two elections? I'm dying to know.
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gamahuche9 months, 2 weeks ago
She's still the candidate whom the Republicans are most frightened of.
You don't have to look further than this propeller forum where one prominent Republican member ran three stories in as many days about how wonderful Joe Biden was. Almost cuddling up in his lap, virtually speaking.
That of course does not make HC a better or worse candidate or potential President but it does mean that as the front runner at a very early point in proceedings she remains a prime target from both the Republican side and her rival democrats. How she handles that can be seen as a real test of her mettle.
While a second Clinton does not alarm me as much as the second Bush did/still does I am NOT a huge fan of the perpetuation of a Clinton dynasty but the obsessive effort of the Republicans to derail Hillary at all costs seems quite pathological and to have little to do with the concept of a fair fight and let the best wo/man win.
Which ultimately is what politics SHOULD be about.
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CORVIDIVS9 months, 2 weeks ago
... tell what politics should be all about.c'mon,mon.politics is about power and the acquisition & keeping thereof.it would seem to preclude any nicey nicey unless that is the demographic computation of the mo'...
BUT THE NICE THING be that they want her gone.Is that a ruse to get us votin' for her.Nah.They slipped up on that one...
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Endoscopy9 months, 2 weeks ago
LOL
She is the one we want up there. She would be the easiest to beat. All Republicans would crawl over ground glass to vote against her. She talks middle of the road but Hillary Care was a far left wing abortion. It would be dragged out in the full light of day as to what she believes. That would swing the moderates to the Republicans.
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mesodude9 months, 2 weeks ago
Ohh, Endo...Hopelessly delusional to the bitter end of the GOP implosion, I see. LOL. I guess you haven't noticed that Republicans are crawling over ground glass to get AWAY from your criminal and decrepit party. And I'm not just talking about the sudden huge surge in voters who identify themselves as "independents." Did you forget that there's like 18 or so GOP Congressional rats alone who are jumping that burning, sinking ship within the next year? Yeah...Thought so.
And you really think wingjobbers (who live, eat, sleep, drink, sweat, and crap based on the "pro-life" platform) are gonna vote for an adulterous, opportunistic cross-dressing weasel like Rudy Giuliani who supports abortion rights and gay rights? You're insane, Endo.
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slate9 months, 2 weeks ago
(You don't have to look further than this propeller forum where one prominent Republican member ran three stories in as many days about how wonderful Joe Biden was. Almost cuddling up in his lap, virtually speaking.)
Is that any different than the prominent Democrats here that tout Ron Paul?
Do you think they really like him or do you think they'd vote for him because they agree with him, even though he has an R next to his name? If you believe the latter, then why can't AG do the same?
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slate9 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm voting for the person in the future over party, since both parties are the same for the most part. Both sides playing political 'Good Cop/Bad Cop' to try and see which side can do the best smoke and mirror job to get elected. Not to do the will of the people for the good of the nation, but to get the really great offices, committee positions and hold of the purse strings,,,, which gives them the advantage to get the really great offices, committee positions and hold of the purse strings,,,,
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mesodude9 months, 2 weeks ago
"You don't have to look further than this propeller forum where one prominent Republican member ran three stories in as many days about how wonderful Joe Biden was. Almost cuddling up in his lap, virtually speaking."
The irony is that people who elected George Bush (of all creatures) actually believe that by shifting the focus to anything but their own clownish lineup of candidates and the horrific trainwreck the GOP has been for the last 7 years, that intelligent people will actually believe that voting for Hillary is worse than voting for a man who has almost single-handedly destroyed the planet. Cons are pretty freaking demented.
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willottica9 months, 2 weeks ago
Hmm... I've got some very intelligent friends who like Clinton for president. The reasons they give are compelling, and this article adds to them.
Initially, I didn't like her. Don't really know why... but I can see that she's thinking ahead every stretch of the way. Hillary has a unique insight into the inside of the President's office and is much more aware of what can and can't be done.
Politicians are famous for breaking their campaign promises, and she might be aware of a fact that many other candidates are not: it's not their fault. All the desire in the world to make the changes you promise on the campaign trail may not give you the power to change them once in office.
I think she is trying her damnedest to run an appealing campaign while NOT making promises she can't keep, and that is very refreshing.
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Raiderwall9 months, 2 weeks ago
Into each campaign a little rain shall fall. The races always tighten as voting draws near. I think Clinton is the strongest candidate the Democrats could field. I like Obama but he does come off as a rookie on the national political stage.
Biden, he'll make a great secretary of state.
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smithichie9 months, 2 weeks ago
I find it amusing how such a big deal is being made out of the possible 2nd place Clinton might be handed in Iowa when republican darling, Rudy Giuliani's best hope is a third place finish.
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Grrr9 months, 2 weeks ago
Any Dem but her. Keep these stories coming.
Among the 3 front runners, I like Barack the most, by far.
Biden? BSOMN(blow snot outta my nose). I thought the idea was to find someone that might actually change what is going on right now. The biggest fascist of the bunch, maybe more so than Hill.
Somebody please give Gravel a million bucks so he can raise hell in debates, again. If they let him say anything, that is...
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aniokly9 months, 2 weeks ago
I pray every day for a Clinton-Giuliani run. Throw in Mayor Bloomberg and you have a fun race. The problem for the little lady is her internal polls. Even Democrats don't like her. And they don't want the Impeached One running around the W H with too much time on his hands.
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smithichie9 months, 2 weeks ago
If Dems don't like Clinton and she comes in 2nd in Iowa, what does that say about Giuliani's 3rd or 4th (lower?) place showing?
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slate9 months, 2 weeks ago
Smith,,,,, That they like the others over Rudy as well as Clinton in her case?
The thing about politics these days is we are told way in advance (about 2 years out this time) who we will pick by the media but when it comes to push or shove we Americans like to figure out who we want to vote for.
I think some of Clintons and Giuliani's fall in the polls stems from just that.
I listen to many news sources, left and right leaning, I read opinions here, I read,,,,,
I vote for who I decide to vote for, Rush doesn't cast my vote, neither does Hannity or O'Riely, neither does anyone from the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC or Air America.
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