Can Biden Defy the Iowa Odds? »
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Facing celebrity candidates endowed with hundreds of millions of dollars, the one thing Joe Biden may have going for him with only days to go before the Iowa caucuses are low expectations.
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Biden is betting that he will reach that magic 15% number in his eastern strongholds and in enough rural caucuses, he has personally visited 94 or Iowa's 99 counties, to place fourth even though New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson is currently polling ahead of him.
Ultimately, Biden thinks enough Iowans will make a late decision to throw their support behind him that he'll be able to go to New Hampshire with a fighting chance. "People are coming up handing me their Hillary buttons, handing me their Edwards buttons. Last night two Obama precinct captains walked up to me and said 'You know, we're switching.'"
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
Joe Biden is a bought and paid zionist traitor to America. He has already supported zionist plans for Iraq, which turned out to be a total failure, and is regarded in the mideast as an incompetent. America does NOT need a Biden that will continue to kill Americans in the mideast for zionist crimes against humanity.
The DLC and Israel
Zionist Democrats
... ..... These neoconservative Democrats include: Governor Tom Vilsack, Senator Evan Bayh, Senator Joe Biden...
http://counterpunch.com/carmichael05302006.html
An old Zionist dream: the partition of Iraq
Finally the Imperial Senate calls for Iraq's partition.
US lawmakers voted Wednesday to split Iraq into a loose federation of sectarian-based regions and urged President George W Bush to press Iraqi leaders to agree. [dpa]
The proposal came from Senator Joseph Biden, the smart-ass who heads the chamber's foreign relations committee...
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/09/382195.html
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
Iraq: Biden Backfires
... "Senator Biden's motion [in congress calling for the partitioning of Iraq] has already backfired. It was condemned by the great majority of the Iraqi people and the political personalities, including high-ranking officials of the US installed government."..
http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/10/10/ir...
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
Why a plan for Iraq's soft partition would backfire
... Unfortunately, the idea that soft partition offers a way out of the Iraq maze is wishful thinking. Any effort by Congress to press this plan on Iraqis will boomerang...
..outside pressure that appears aimed at dividing Iraq will create hostility there and in the region. No matter that Biden insists it isn't aimed at formal division; most Arabs will regard it as a neocolonialist plot. This is why Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki - and the US Embassy in Baghdad - were quick to condemn the Senate resolution.
As Iraqi Foreign Minister Zebari told me by phone, the resolution has "led to an uproar," with Arab media claiming it represents a "Zionist plan" to divide the country....
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/trudy...
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
Lets be clear that Biden would be a repeat of the American disaster of letting zionists direct our foreign policy in the mideast, and particularly in palestine (think Ross, Indyk, Abrams, etc.).
SENATOR BIDEN: My son married a young woman whose mother and whole family is a very prominent Jewish family in the state of Delaware, the Bergers.
When I was a young Senator, I used to say, "If I were a Jew I'd be a Zionist."
I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/phpbb/viewtopic.p...
Really want to elect someone who betrays the principles of American democracy by supporting the robbing, killing, expulsion or placing in concentration camps of over 7 million christians and moslems?
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IcCaRus7 months, 2 weeks ago
by that logic, Duh-bya oughta stick to drinking, snorting coke, and being some villages Idiot. you people kill me, with all the obvious failings of your brainless leader, you still sling mud at others...
all joe did was to use a quote in a speech and not mention the author.. thats done THOUSANDS of times here every day.
tell me, have you ever heard that people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones?
by the way, your nickname is offensive and just goes to show typical conservative values....
now THATS an oxymoron if ever there was one - "conservative values" LMAO!!!
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
Voters' comments:
"Joe is clearly the most qualified and best choice of any candidate running for President.
For those who do not know much about him -- listen to his response to Tim Russert in Philadelphia debate when asked if he would pledge to prevent the Iranian's from getting nukes. He was cool, calm and gave an answer that blew everyone away...He was absolutly correct"
Fast forward to the 1:50 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOkXgZqofA
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Joe Biden for President 2008!!!!!!!!!!
It's time to hire Biden. He has nearly three times the experience of ALL top tier candidates. Able and willing, he too is a humble and civil human being with no axe to grind or ulterior motive. He is a true American leader."
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Very interesting and informative article. So far Sen. Biden, along with his campaign head honchos sister Valerie and Luis Navarro, have run an outstanding campaign for which they should all be proud. I think Sen. Biden would make the best POTUS of any candidate from either side of the aisle and am hopeful that Valerie Biden Owens, Mr. Navarro and others will come up with the correct calculus to make that happen. I can't wait for Iowa caucuses later this week so we can witness Sen. Biden "shock the world" with his campaign success. Biden '08!"
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
"People have been kind to say, including even the national press, that I am qualified to be president of the United States, that I could win a general election, but how can he win the caucuses?" Biden told a crowd of several hundred people crammed into an Ames library Monday. "The only thing that I ask you, and the only responsibility to the Democrats in the rest of the country I think you have, is not to be pundits but to pick for them who you believe that the most qualified persons are to be in the finals."
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
You really think it's gonna be down to two? I don't. I still think it's basically gonna be a three-way tie. The only surprise is who will come in fourth? My pick is Senator Joe Biden! :D
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not2needy7 months, 3 weeks ago
Am i safe in assuming that you like Joe Biden AG? Could this mean you may change your voter status! HAHAHA!
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
You know, N2N, I was actually thinking about it. And I would only do it for this election! And stop laughing at me.
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sumptuousdigs7 months, 3 weeks ago
Playing poker, I like to keep my cards close to my vest, and sometimes change my hand. The deck seems full of jokers this tournament. Carefully drawing from the deck, Joe Biden could change my hand to a winner.
There are a lot of wild cards out there. Some could be aces. I fear many could just be jokers, or like the deuces we now have in office. (Refer to the phrase "Deuce" in the arcane devil reference).
Joe's biggest liability is his greatest asset. His 'old guard' status. There was one unfortunate statement by him that could be perceived as a cultural cluelessness, when He regarded Obama in an ambiguous phrase. That aside, I think he is the most electable, with some crossover appeal.
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sumptuousdigs7 months, 3 weeks ago
Do you like fruit?
Now let me make the statement that will prick up AG's latent fears. Cabinet choices. If H. Clinton headed up HEW, Gore, the Interior, and W.J. Clinton Sec. of State, I would be happy, while many conservatives might be aghast. Fear not. Cabinets are advisory posts, and I like an equal counterweight in the same capacity. B. Cohen for Defense. Perhaps R. Wagner (GM) for Treasury, for example.
Oh! Oh! Oh! I forgot... Obama for VP.
How do ya like them apples?!
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slate7 months, 3 weeks ago
Yeppers, Kerry didn't do very well in the first couple of rounds in 2004 and he ehnded up on the top of the heap
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ranchhand7 months, 3 weeks ago
Alpha What happened to Thompson he didn't die or get put in a nursing home did he? Can't believe you are actually agreeing with my ( desertion) Ha Ha. Aren't we a pair? Of course I still hold out the hope that Duncan Hunter makes it. But Biden is good one as Duncan Hunter is a good one.
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Raiderwall7 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't know if Senator Biden can defy the odds, but one thing is certainly clear. Whether he's the President, Vice President, Secretary of State, or an influential senator, Joe Biden has certainly gotten over the problems he's had and will be a major player on the world stage.
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aniokly7 months, 3 weeks ago
Sen Biden is the nominee that could bring the Democrats the W H in 08. Unfortunately, their voters wait to see who the media wants, they will vote for Barak Hussein Obama, or Hillary. Neither of them are electable regardless of what the current polls say. Once we get a good look at them, on their own, they cannot compete.
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
Check out this update:
Local elected officials join Biden for President
Sen. Joe Biden today received the endorsement of a number of prominent local and Democratic Party officials in Iowa who will join the Biden for President Iowa Steering Committee. The committee is instrumental in organizing local support across Iowa on caucus night. Local and Democratic Party officials including Black Hawk County Supervisor Tom Little, Co-Chair of the 4th Congressional District for the Iowa Democratic Party Linda Vaudt, Linn County Democratic Party Chair Mike Robinson, Osceola Mayor Fred Diehl, Elkader Mayor Bob Garm, Louisa County Supervisor Frank Jamison, Keystone Mayor Mark Andresen, Howard County Democratic Party Vice-Chair Lauren Meritt, and Clayton County Democratic Party Secretary Raymond Stassen, all announced their support today, again demonstrating the momentum building behind Sen. Biden over the final days of the race in Iowa.
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
"The media have the 'first tier' and the 'second-tier' backwards," said Louisa County Supervisor Frank Jamison. "Joe Biden has the most experience of anyone in the field. And his values are my values."
Mayor Fred Diehl, a former small-business owner serving his 6th term as Mayor of Osceola added, "The thing I'm most concerned about is restoring the middle class. Today, American industries are moving outside the United States and Sen. Biden has the foreign policy experience to take hold right away when he first steps foot in the Oval Office."
Sen. Biden said, "I am proud to have earned the backing of leaders in Iowa who share my concern for restoring our place in the world and protecting the middle class. Grassroots organizing by strong local leaders is what's going to make the difference on caucus night, and with their help I am confident I am going to turn this race upside down."
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unome27 months, 3 weeks ago
I'd vote for anyone who can stop my country from murdering innocents, torturing at will, spying on its own people and devouring its own constitution for the corporate" destroy anything for profit" world.
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AlphaGnosis7 months, 3 weeks ago
The newest members of the Biden for President Statewide Steering Committee join an impressive roster of over 50 other local leaders from across the Hawkeye State. To date, 16 state legislatorsâ;;and a majority of the House Democratic leadershipâ;;have endorsed Senator Biden, including State Sen. Joe Seng (Davenport), House Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Des Moines), Speaker Pro Tempore Rep. Polly Butka (Clinton), Rep. John Whitaker (Hillsboro), Rep. Doris Kelley (Waterloo), Rep. Lisa Heddens (Ames), Rep. Jim Lykam (Davenport), Rep. Mike Reasoner (Creston), Rep. Dick Taylor (Cedar Rapids), Rep. Roger Thomas (Elkader), Rep. McKinley Bailey (Webster City), State Senator Herman C. Quirmbach (Ames), Rep. Mary Gaskill (Ottumwa), Rep. Bruce Hunter (Des Moines), Rep. Eric Palmer (Oskaloosa), and Rep. Dennis Cohoon (Burlington).
http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=1...
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slate7 months, 2 weeks ago
Uno - Lottery? you mean the count that went on forever and ever and even outside tallys came up with the same conclussion that Bush did win by a very small margin?
You know how it goes, there will be wars in the future,,, one side will say they are just, the other will say otherwise,, most of the time it depends what party is doing it and which one someone agrees with on who thinks they are just or not.
Darfur may well be a place in the near future that will have our soldiers die at. Many people will die, profits will be made and it's likely that the same people against the war today will claim that it's 'different' and just.
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unome27 months, 3 weeks ago
Slate, you may be right, however I thought after Vietnam the American people would not be so easily fooled into another unjustified, immoral war.
But that fateful day when the Bushes, the Bin Ladens, and the neo-cons hit the lottery was a little too much of a coincidence for my taste.
I say vote for peace.
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ranchhand7 months, 3 weeks ago
Ok I shouldn't say this because I know that I will probably be blasted. But here goes. I have seen the people of the USA get fed up with war and understandably so. Yet when the government has given in to pressure of the citizens. there has been massive genocide. look at Vietnam hundreds of thousands. After WW11 Stalin murdered millions of Polish people. The Nazis had taken children of the Norwegians, and Poles and selected women for the breeding the perfect Aryan race. We left these children stuck in mental instutions.to a fate worse than death. pedophiles, torture and murder. Yes we turned our backs because we didn't want anymore of our children to be sacrificed for others. In that war we let congress fight for two years and until war was declared on us we did nothing. While millions of Jews, Catholics, gypsies were killed, tortured and experimented on.Will history repeat itself I hope not. That is why we need to elect a president that is capable of his station.
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
These days we are the ones causing the genocides. Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld already helped kill over a million people during the Ford administration. they then proceeded to do exactly the same during the Reagan admin and again during the bushie sonny regime. The world is increasingly fed up with our american taliban murderers.
None Dare Call It Genocide
How comfy we are all in the United States, as we engage in living-room debates about the US occupation of Iraq, whether "we" are bringing them freedom and whether their freedom is really worth the sacrifice of so many of our men and women. We talk about whether war aims have really been achieved, how to exit gracefully, or whether we need a hyper-surge to finish this whole business once and for all.
But there's one thing Americans don't talk about: the lives of Iraqis, or, rather, the deaths of Iraqis.
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hyperbola7 months, 3 weeks ago
Well, it's about time that we think about the numbers. Opinion Research Business, a highly reputable polling firm in the UK, has just completed a detailed and rigorous survey of Iraqis. In the past, the company's results have been touted by the Bush administration whenever the data looks favorable to the US cause.
Here is the grisly bottom line: more than one million people have been murdered in Iraq since the US invasion.
In Baghdad, where the US presence is most pronounced, nearly half of households report having lost a family member to a killing.
You are welcome to inspect the detailed data.
Aside from the astonishing detail, what jumps out is the number of dead who are neither Sunni nor Shia. It is also striking how the further geographically you move from US troop activity, the more peaceful the area is. Americans think they are bringing freedom to Iraq, but the data indicate that we are only bringing suffering and death.
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BB647 months, 2 weeks ago
Joe is a joke. Besides stealing speeches and putting his foot in his mouth, he's worthless. He feels he can win in the national election but doesn't think he can win in the caucuses? What the hell does that mean? His own party won't support him but the Republicans will cross over to support him? Once again, Joe's talking out of both sides of his mouth. I lived in Delaware, he's great at pork barrel projects. He's another tax you to death liberal and give it to special interests.
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joeblowe7 months, 2 weeks ago
You know, he COULD be the very best person for the job - much as Ron Paul is for the Republicans - but because the "mainstream media" has pretty much ignored him in favor of the "main" characters in this farce, he is the tail that probably won't be able to wag the dog. Even in the very informal on-line polls, he doesn't do too well. Unlike Dr. Paul - who would SEEM to be well in the lead of all the other Republicans. Ah, but who knows how accurate all this is? And furthermore, who knows how accurate the COUNT will be after it's all over? And how can we coerce them to spill their guts on a national TV broadcast?
Wouldn't it be great if SOMEONE would just grow a conscience and come forward to ADMIT that there is collusion amongst the election planners to steal the election? Then, maybe, we could put some criminals in prison and get a REAL election. Maybe.
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