Politics – Barack Obama will win the South Carolina Democratic primary, CNN projects. A win in South Carolina was considered crucial for the Illinois senator, who finished second to New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire and Nevada.
as did CNN
Skippy lost his home state.
That's really really badddddd
No one from South Carolina was running so I don't know who you're talking about.
Sen Edwards was born in South Carolina. That kind of makes him a favorite son. If he can't win in S C, he can't win anywhere. He needs to fold his tent, and go home.
Edwards is way too affluent to own a tent, my dear.
They should just tell him to drop out and know that he will have a position in the administration. I think he would make the most amazing Attorney General. The Best since RFK.
an ambulance chaser as the AG? No!!
LOL. slate, it's comforting to know I can always count on you for my daily dose of comic relief. I guess you've forgotten (though I can't fathom how anyone could) that America suffered through years with that dumpy, deceitful, criminally inept, brown-nosing weasel Alberto Gonzales as Attorney General. If memory serves me, his legacy will be that he was the first Attorney General to publicly orchestrate the destruction of his own agency. IOW, I think it's a safe bet that most of your fellow citizens know that they could do far, FAR worse than having John Edwards as Attorney General.
"Sen Edwards was born in South Carolina. That kind of makes him a favorite son. If he can't win in S C, he can't win anywhere. He needs to fold his tent, and go home.
--I woudn't count Edwards out just yet. After all, your hero (the Connecticut Yankee turned fake cowboy) lost in his home state in both 2000 and 2004 and managed to steal the election in 2000 anyway. Maybe Edwards has some *legal* tricks up his sleeve. Ya never know...
bruhaha
"No one from South Carolina was running so I don't know who you're talking about"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards
Skippy was born on June 10, 1953 to Wallace Reid Edwards and Catharine Juanita "Bobbie" Wade in Seneca, South Carolina.
Not only did he lose his home state, Some folks (Dems) don't even know the basics about one of their top 3, who was running as a VP in the 04 election, after dropping out of the Pres Race.
So sad,
INJEST:
"Not only did he lose his home state, Some folks (Dems) don't even know the basics about one of their top 3, who was running as a VP in the 04 election"
Your own Wikipedia source admits that John Edwards' family didn't remain in South Carolina very long and settled in North Carolina early in Edwards' childhood. Since Edwards no longer calls South Carolina his "home," it is NOT his "home state."
Likewise, Bush Jr. was born in Connecticut, yet Bush didn't play up his Northeastern roots to Republican voters. In fact on the campaign trail, Bush Jr. called Texas his home state. And I don't remember Republicans calling for Bush to surrender when he lost Connecticut BOTH in 2000 and 2004.
It's unfathomable that you can't see the inconsistencies in your own partisan-clouded argument.
So typical.
Not much suspense with this one...all of the major News organizations called this one at 7PM when the polls closed. AP is calling it a 'Trounce'. Exit polls showed Senator Obama beating Senator Clinton by 2 to 1.
"Not much suspense with this one...all of the major News organizations called this one at 7PM when the polls closed. AP is calling it a 'Trounce'. Exit polls showed Senator Obama beating Senator Clinton by 2 to 1."
--Ironically that also happens to be the ratio by which Democratic Party candidates are raising campaign money compared to GOP candidates as well as the ratio by which Democrats are showing up at the polls compared to Republicans. I don't hear the "liberal media" trumpeting those figures around the clock they way they've been giving us the "he said, she said" between Obama and Clinton.
Caroline Kennedy Endorses Obama
NEW YORK (AP) â;; The daughter of President John F. Kennedy endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, saying he could inspire Americans in the same way her father once did.
"I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them," Caroline Kennedy wrote in an op-ed posted Saturday on the Web site of The New York Times. "But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president â;; not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans."
Kennedy, who was four days shy of her 6th birthday when her father was assassinated, wrote that Obama "has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things."
BILL TO THE RESCUE?
Considering the massive blow out, Obama 28% ABOVE Clinton, could this statement be interpreted as Bill Clinton motivated them to vote overwhelmingly FOR Obama?
"Nearly six in 10 of those voting said former President Clinton's campaigning in the state was an important factor for them, including a quarter who called it very important"
Only 22% of white democrats have voted for Obama in exit polls. That is not good news going forward for Obama.
It's not good, but its not that bad either. It's not nearly as damning as it would be if we were talking about the republican party nominations, where the white vote is much more influencial.
plus, the white democrats were choosing between DEMOCRATS. cat, you and other cons should not place too much stock in this as an indication of the general election, its not. IF he gets the nomination, and the choice is obama or a republican, trust me on this, they will vote for the democrat.
Absolutely correct! And people need to get off the race crap. It's kind of ridiculous that if whites don't vote for Barack, it's taken as some insidious sign of racism.
God forbid anyone give these people some credit for making their decisions based on something other than race.
"Absolutely correct! And people need to get off the race crap. It's kind of ridiculous that if whites don't vote for Barack, it's taken as some insidious sign of racism"
According to Kos s, whites voting for, Obama would be engaging in "racial politics" of the "worst kind"
Racism is less of an issue in America than sexism. That's why Obama has a better chance than Hillary. Sexism is integral into conservatism. That's the truth of the existence of what we call the "Angry White Male". There is a hatred towards the Clintons basically because they won and its personal because they are southern. Now it's almost to the point to campaign against Obama because you think he's a good guy who doesn't need to be Assassinated. That's why the Vice Presidential race is now more important now than the Presidential. Cheney has permanently changed the power structure of Washington by floating the idea that the VP is a 4th branch of government. It almost kind of should be, except with a person who actually values human life in charge, rather than the war criminal/Nazi who currently occupies that post. That's why I think John Edwards would be the best Vice President we could ever have. And Hillary can get a nice cush post like Secretary of State.
"Racism is less of an issue in America than sexism. That's why Obama has a better chance than Hillary. Sexism is integral into conservatism. That's the truth of the existence of what we call the "Angry White Male"."
So explain the most powerful woman in the world. Dr. Rice?
"That's why Obama has a better chance than Hillary"
Uh no. Obama has a better chance than Hillary cause more and more people realize Hillary's "resume" is BLANK.
Every job she has had is a result of Bill Clinton being the Gov or Prez. (ya, Same as W. thats my point)
Question. She claims 35 years working on "very important issues"
As a lawyer name 5 cases she handled and won? (Jury duty doesn't count)
As a Senator for 7 years name 3 "bills" she has authored and gotten passed?
Ok how bout 1?
Ok that's to high a bar, bills she has authored and are in the works? 1? 2?
How bout bills she is "thinking" bout authoring? 7 years gotta be 1?
To be fair I don't think Obama has much either. I would have to say that Clinton is just to polarizing a figure to make a good President. If she's nominated I'm calling a GOP victory, I'm sorry but thats what I think. Few Democrats really like her from what I see and I don't feel its because she is a woman. The same people I hear talking about Hillary say they'd vote for Rice if she ran. Its not a sexism issue, its that she has the same CV as Obama and doesn't have nearly his charisma, appeal or his ability to appear non-partisan.
If she loses I don't think her gender will be a factor and if you think it is... then you believe all young people are secretly sexist? And that adults are really not sexist, even though they were raised in a more sexist world? I mean, if the only reason Obama is winning is gender... then his huge ratings among younger people shows that there sexist. I think thats just silly. If Hillary loses I'd have to say its not her gender playing against her, after all enough women around to swing the vote unless there is some terrible secret I'm unaware of. Hillary is losing because she is more of the same. Obama proves this in my opinion, because he is new, fresh and he is not a member of the generation that produced the Clintons or Bushes. He doesn't still have highly partisan feelings. He, and candidates of his mind set, are the future I think. Thus, the younger generation and the older people who are sick of partisanship as well, vote for him. I don't see it as a gender thing.
((Sexism is integral into conservatism.))
You guys always say that about women and race about republicans. But is it true?
Bush Cabinet (Minorities/Women) 2000
Colin Powel - Secretary of State
Gale A, Norton â;; Secretary of The Interior
Ann M. Veneman - Secretary of Agriculture
Elaine Chao** - Secretary of Labor
Melquiades Rafael Martinez â;; Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Norman Yoshio Mineta â;; Secretary of Transportation
Roderick Paige â;; Secretary of Education
Clinton Cabinet (Minorities/Women) 1993
Janet Reno â;; Attorney General
Donna E. Shalala - Secretary of Health and Human Services
Henry G. Cisneros - Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Federico F. Pena - Secretary of Transportation
Jesse Brown Secretary of Veterans Affairs
I don't know, the facts don't support your claim.
Not only did Bush have 3 women, one was 'also' a minority. the Clinton administration had two women.
The Bush administration, had four minority males in his cabinet, the Clinton administration had three.
The 2000 Bush administration, had a total of six cabinet members that were either women or minorities, the Clinton administration had five. You do the math.
People vote for people that are representative of themselves. That has been proven. Call it whatever you want! Facts are facts.
CATSTEVENS:
"Only 22% of white democrats have voted for Obama in exit polls."
Black voters identified with Obama; female voters identified with Hillary; the rest identified with the native Edwards. That is why Obama won the black vote, Hillary won the white female vote, and Edwards won what the left over white male vote.
White Democrats didn't reject Obama. In fact, Obama won nearly as many white male votes as Clinton did.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/us/politics/2...
"As many Carolina white men voted for Obama as for Clinton, and about 70% of white voters would be satisfied if Obama won the Democratic nomination."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
"Half of white voters younger than 30 voted for Obama, as did about one-third of those with at least a college degree and a similar percentage of those with incomes of $100k or more."
don't get all touchy on me...just quoting a fact that I heard from a black democrat.
no ones getting touchy. its just that you cons are completely missing the point. here are some of the things youre overlooking..
first, primaries have NOTHING to do with general elections. other than choosing the candidates. there is in-fighting in both partys primaries, thats part of the process. "voodoo economics" ring a bell? they ended up being running mates, and winning.
second, most people, no matter what they say about "voting for the candidate, and not the party". DO vote for the party. cons almost always vote republican and libs democratic, no matter who the partys' candidate is.
next, youre thinking like republicans. thats ok if youre trying to predict what reps will do, but not if youre predicting what dems will do, and vice versa. for example, youre totally wrong when you talk about which rep candidate we "fear". why? because youre thinking about who YOU would fear.
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next, yall STILL dont get what a colossal failure Duh-bya has been in our eyes. i know hes not running again, but any1 who doesnt go out of his way in the gen election to loudly divorce himself from bush will get NO crossover votes, no matter who the dem candidiate is.
next, the big issues are the economy, health care, iraq, and immigration. all are in a baD state, and people tend to blame those in power. the republicans have been in total control 6 of the last 7 years.
im thinking that means a win for the dems. itll probably be close if its hillary cause she polls such high negs. shes certainly not my first choice, but ill vote for whoever the nominee is, as i suspoect most on both sides will do.
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Fox called this at the very top of the 7pm hour.
Clinton proved to be the mud-slinger in this state, although she is winning the delegates.