Conservatives rally as McCain denies extra-marital affair »
Posted By not2needy 7 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsRepublican heir apparent John McCain denied on Thursday having an affair with a female lobbyist as his White House campaign and conservatives excoriated a critical article by the New York Times.
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
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With his wife Cindy standing by him, the Arizona senator rebutted the suggestion of a romantic liaison with the 40-year-old lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, when he ran for president eight years ago.
"Obviously I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," McCain, 71, said at a hastily arranged press conference in Ohio, while pledging to press ahead and win the last few delegates he needs for the Republican nomination.
No one but McCain and Iseman know what happened between them. I read some old articles from when he was running in 2000 and found that McCains campaign managers had to bar her from private meetings, because she accompanined him everywhere. They were advising him to curtail his relationship with her.
If it's not true, he should be left alone. If it is true, it will eventually come out.
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questionseverything7 months, 2 weeks ago
i think its not as important if mccain had an affair as looking into what leg favors the telecomms that the lobbyists worked for got and how much money mccains campaign got from same companies
i do agree its snakey of him to have been running around on his first wife and im surprised ur post lower in page is first i had heard of it
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djrevelky7 months, 2 weeks ago
If you think that Conservatives will vote Obama you're more of a whack job than McCain is. True conservatives will not vote. If Hillary actually gets the nomination, then the conservatives will vote for Hillary if they are smart.
I'm voting for Hillary. Why you ask? The Clinton's have a history of accomplishing nothing. Where was the free healthcare for their first 8 years?
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SonOfTheMask7 months, 2 weeks ago
FTA: "In conservative world, if the New York Times does a 'hit job' on you, then you wear that as a conservative badge of honor," he wrote in his blog."
I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)
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IcCaRus7 months, 2 weeks ago
youre probably right. id imagine that even cons who said there was no way they could vote for him will now rally and support him.
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Neophile7 months, 2 weeks ago
What Right-Wingers See When They Read the New York Times:
http://rightwingnytimes.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
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mesodude7 months, 2 weeks ago
"I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)"
--LOL... This is actually delicious. Wingers conflicted over whether to thank the NYT or trash them. How many of those on the right would just love to see McLib's campaign torpedoed and couldn't care less whether the allegations are true or not.
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Lurch7 months, 2 weeks ago
SOTM,
>I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)
Which is hypocritically ironic since Drudge and Fox reported it before the NYT, and only the NYT bowed to McCain pressure to delay the story til after he was guaranteed the nomination. To which they dutifully complied.
But of course when the `con` media did it, he was the red-headed step child of the Republican Party. Now he is the front-runner so anything to make a weaselly adulterer look like a poor victim.
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
I found this interesting, and i will post the link before asked to, anyway, here is an exerpt from a related article regarding McCains infidility with his first wife.
After all, it's well known that he repeatedly cheated on his first wife Carol, of a number of years, with a variety of women, before eventually dumping her for a much-younger heiress whose family fortune was able to help finance his political career. That's well known, I should say, except to the electorate,
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives...
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
Yea, and i thought they were going to demand Michelle be drawn and quartered for daring to support her husband.
What a bunch!
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amazed7 months, 2 weeks ago
Read through that blog again -- most of us were saying, that it wan't true and was a nasty trick.
It is amazing to me that those who claim that, when it's a Republicsn involved, that the accusation is enough -- if there's smoke there must be some fire -- are largely the same ones who discounted the Obama story out of hand and thought that it shouldn't even be aired.
You know, guys, you'd have a bit more credibility if you demonstrated a bit more consistency.
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Lurch7 months, 2 weeks ago
Actually the same ones who were saying `where there is smoke there is fire` are the same ones who now flip-flop and claim the same claims are an attack job because it is the NYT and not Drudge/Fox reporting it.
Of course these same `victim` claimers are the ones who successfully pushed for 100 tax-payer funded investigators to waste five years and $50M investigating Clinton because `where there is smoke there is fire`.
One thing you can always count on with Republicans, they very rarely only flip-flop once. ;)
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MonkeyBiz7 months, 2 weeks ago
That's quite a story. The truth may eventually come out, but right now claiming "hit job" by the rabid right, or "adulterer" and "hypocrite" by the left may be a little premature.
I found it interesting that the Washington Post corroborates at least some of the story.
I was also struck by Cindy McCain's apparent priorities when she said, "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our family, but more importantly, disappoint the people of America." She is saying that not disappointing the people of the America is more important than not disappointing her family? YIKES!!! No wonder the party of "family values" has been giving McCain a bad time.
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
She knew he was a snake when she let him in her house, after all he was married to Carol when he started messing with Cindy.
Of course Cindy supports him to the media, she has probably known about it for years, if it's true! But number one on her list of priorities is being first lady.
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joey-evans7 months, 2 weeks ago
"...but ALL the prospective first spouses seem pretty awful."
Gee, I don't agree with that amazed....Bill after all is quite handsome. L.O.L.
JOEY EVANS
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
Personally gama, at this point of his life i don't think he's got it in him, but this was several years ago, when he was running for pres in 2000. Who knows!
If he's lying, it will come out, he should know that. Maybe he is in hopes that by then he will be pres, and that Bush1,2 and Cheney will protect him for being so submissive and obedient.
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Lurch7 months, 2 weeks ago
935 proven lies by the Bush admin to trick the country into invading a sovereign nation that never attacked nor threatened us. And no accountability so far.
McCain isn`t afraid of the truth coming out as long as his buddies in the mass media keep spinning it like they did this one. `poor McCain is a victim of those bad liberals`
What a bunch of crybaby crock. Stand up and take it like a man for crying out loud - you`re running for president after all.
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splitrch7 months, 2 weeks ago
There's an old saying - "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b_ulls_hit". If we actually knew the truth about things there would be hell to pay. This way, focusing our attention on nonsense is better for business and politics. Divide and conquer works wonders for the bottom line.
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IcCaRus7 months, 2 weeks ago
there was a discussion about this today on NPR. and there were 3 main points made. first, some conservative pundit tried to imply that hillary was behind it. NO DICE, this is actually good for McCain in that conservatives who were hesitant to vote for him will now rally round him. secondly, that IF its true, hes done. (notice i said IF). thirdly, they questioned the timing of the story. heres my take on the timing. IF this story was gonna come out, this is the BEST time for it. think about it, if it comes out a month or two ago, and gained any traction, McCain is NOT the presumptive nominee right now. no tellin if it would be mitt or rudy, huckabee, or even thompson, but the race would have been far different than the one we had. now, its too late to hurt him in the primaries, and, if it is true, by coming out now it gives him time to prepaRE to rebut it in the generaL. if it came out in oct (october surprise) hed be toast.
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
MMMMMMM, sounds rather Rovian!
Isn't it strange how the cons think their sexual escapades are an advantage, something that gives them an edge. However, God forbid that Liberals have sex..and if we do they will make our lives miserable.
Newt and Clinton comes to mind.
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rdy2rck7 months, 2 weeks ago
I hope those that blasted me earlier this week on the obama "scandal" see I voted on this article also because it bears investigation.More evidence is needed.
But I'll admit whoever the politician is, I'm not sure if sexual affairs is my business although it may give a clue as to the persons character. I'm not sure.
But as I remember back to the Lewinski scandal, what sticks out in my mind is that Bill lied under oath.That's a big no-no to me.
But as with Obamas story and this one it bears reading and more facts are needed.But I suspect in both cases in todays world, the truth if any will come out eventually because there are too many people looking for a buck and the media needs the ratings to feed upon.
But if it turns out McCain lied about this, I won't like it.
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not2needy7 months, 2 weeks ago
No one will like it rdy, but he had a lot of affairs on his first wife, even with the woman he's married to now.
I keep saying the same thing over and over, and it keeps applying, DOUBLE STANDARDS!
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rdy2rck7 months, 2 weeks ago
I agree in a way. But this always puts me in a pickle as an independant. I see double standards not by all, but many on both sides of the fence and I don't like either. It sickens me.
And like I said about the sex stuff, I really am not sure if it's my business. I've been thinking about it. But standing up on TV or under oath and lying I feel is my business.
But one way my thoughts are leaning if any candidate cheats on their spouse, are they going to cheat on us?
But to show my attempts at even handedness, I really hope this article gets as many votes as those earlier in the week.
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rdy2rck7 months, 2 weeks ago
May I politely suggest the dems rallied around Obama and it doesn't surprisse me the repubs are rallying around McCain. neither is necessarily right.
I just wonder what kind of mud is going to be left in the generals.It's a free for all anymore and we can't always tell where it's coming from.:(
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NoWayMan7 months, 2 weeks ago
Its not the extra-marital affair that's important, although McCain's denials of any affair will hurt him should it turn out to be true, which would make him a liar.
the important part is who the supposed affair was with: a lobbyist. and even if there was no affair happening, it sure sounds like Vicki Iseman had an unusual amount of access to McCain, "turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client's corporate jet." according to the NY Times article.
friends, lovers, co-conspirators, whatever they were, its the amount of influence she had that needs to be investigated.
and if it's wholly untrue, why doesn't McCain sue for libel (or is it slander?).
in the long run, if any part of this pans out, it will definitely hurt McCain.
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