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Romney says he'd take Veep, calls McCain "Big Dog"
Politics – Mitt Romney said in his first interview since departing the GOP race that he would accept the number two position on the ticket and that there is no lingering bitterness between he and John McCain.
"According to two separate reports, Romney is being talked up as a running mate by members of the Bush inner circle. But McCain and his closest advisers have little regard for their former rival thanks to the bitter, year-long race waged between the two Republicans.
Romney says, however, that he thinks the wounds have healed.
"There are really no hard feelings, I don't think, on either side of this," he said in the interview. "There were no pacts and so forth that make people feel like that we will never come together. Instead these campaigns are all coming together. We are supporting our nominee enthusiastically, aggressively."
Romney said his top fundraisers have already met with McCain's campaign."
Wow OmegaGnosis! you still got that hankerin for Flip Flop Romney?!!
Hey, maybe bein the VP is a good move on MRs part. If our Anti-Christ McCain wins the election in 08, Romney can work his Cult Magic and put McCain under the Moorman spell!
If you think McCain is zig zaggin all over the place now - wait till Romney gets his hooks into im!!
You must be an supporter of Obama since you are emphasizing Romney's name in a mocking manner...but we can't know since you don't actually support anything, only attack Christian Conservatives with your bigoted and tired sock puppet routine.
Didn't I see you drooling over the "Obama's church is racist" stories?I have an arsenal of mormon truth links,if I see one more of these stories about Obamas church it's ON!
You can talk all you want about what the Mormons did a century or more ago. Obama's problem is CURRENT, as in RIGHT NOW. I certainly don't want a president whose "spiritual advisor" is an America-hating bigot.
Mitt Romney, ROTFLMAO! Ladies and Gentlemen Romney lost and is still licking his wounds. What wouldn't surprise me though is that even after Romney lied about McCains views on abortion, he might still take him anyway. Look how he's buddy buddy with Bush that also stabbed him in the back before. Must be some leftover "Stockholm syndrome" from the war.
The magic of the internet is that people with monikers like yours think that you can have a civil discussion. I don't have to prove anything to you. I know who I am. I know who and where I served. You use a common technique used by conservatives. That is to question the service of other people, many of you whom have never served themselves. Anyone that doesn't support your point of view is automatically a fake. That's why McCain will lose. People like you support him.
Ironically, you are anything but jovial. Once again I ask, were you a POW tortured on a daily basis? If not, the Manchurian Candidate jokes are in extremely poor taste.
Again, says you. Where did you serve? It wasn't a joke. I stated a fact. He has kissed up to Bush after ad hominem attacks on him and his family. How do you conservatives gage a man? Do you admire people that kiss up to people that attack one's family and self? I just illustrated that fact. As far as being a POW. He did that by no choice of his own. Do you see the people that survived Gitmo or Abu Ghraib as heroes as well? They put up with torture for years as well, are they heroes in your pathetic world.
Nice try at avoiding the subject. How do you Libs find a man in your party...I mean a real unneutered one? After the sparing and insults between Hillary and Obama I can't believe that you are calling McCain a hypocrite for acting in a politically expedient manner.
You can't even compare modern terrorist detainees with Vietnam era POWs and it's shameful of you to do so. Gitmo is a coutry club in comparison to the Hanoi Hilton. More people died in Abu Ghraib when Saddam ran the place.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower 1978-1982. USS Midway 1986-1988, 3 Navy expeditionary medals, shellback twice, 3 good conduct awards, Navy achievement medal, aircrew wings. There's my partial list. Now present yours.
Then address me as sir, and have some respect. The reason you can't attack McCain is because you really don't have a leg to stand on to attack any vet. (that includes me)
Are you a POW? If not, then I don't owe you any special consideration with respect to this issue. Nice try though, Lib! Btw, I'm not attacking your military record, particularly since I can't verify it.
I may not be a POW, but you are zero. So be grateful that I served to protect you and your family. Stop grandstanding about being a "supporter of the troops". It makes me sick to my stomach. We get enough of that from Rush Limbaugh. Talks cheap. It doesn't cost you a dime to support troops as long as they agree with your warped ideology. You baited me into this, and i called your bluff. I know your next excuse will be you had a cyst on your butt, or some other medical reason you couldn't serve. Spare us the details.
You called my bluff? Who's bluffing. I asked if you were a Vietnam Era POW tortured on a daily basis and you were not. I called your bluff. Thank you for your service but you don't have any experience as a POW. I have worked in government for many years, serving my country in my own way but missing combat...much as you did.
Your point is that I can't criticize someone until I've been in the exact identical shoes that they have been in. My point is you can't criticize me either, because you haven't even served! I served and my contribution to the safety of this country is as important as John McCain's. You may not see it that way, because he was caught and captured. For someone that hasn't served this country as nothing more than a sniveling serpent (civil service), I find it hard to accept criticism from you at all.
My point is that I didn't criticize your service and you are attempting to manufacture this claim to cover your own attack on McCain. Actually, I don't snivel. As a performance auditor I actually make government agencies more effective and efficient. Your ignorance of my experience should make it hard to criticize me.
You did! You tried to make it seem as though I were a phony. You certainly implied that. As a contractor for the government I worked for the military and civil servants. I'd rather work for the military commanders than the civil servants. They were usually inefficient and didn't have the expertise. They were always bogged down with a bunch of government regulations and spent frivously. I remember the government office I worked for had to spend the money they had before the fiscal year so they bought everyone new computers whether they needed one or not. Even the janitor's closet had a brand new 3000 dollar computer in it. The Janitor remarked, "I don't even know how to use the damn thing". BTW, I was criticizing McCain. You saw fit to criticize me first. I gave it back to you.
No, I simply said that I couldn't verify your information. I had no idea what you did for a living so I didn't address that subject.
Actually, a lack of regulation and administrative ability plagued the military early in the Iraq War. I had army officer friends who told me about young lieutenants being given suitcases full of money and being told to complete construction projects. Proper budgeting and expenditure schedules would have eliminated the budget situation you described. As for your appraisal of McCain, he's a combat veteran and you aren't.
You're no more a combat veteran than I am so don't get too high and mighty when criticizing McCain's combat performance. You're beginning to sound desperate, grasping for straws to defend an untenable position.
For you to have the audacity to compare your job in some airconditioned office to the job i did while serving my country is incredulous. You must be certifiably insane.
You're the Liberal not me. There's more basis for concluding that you are insane. I bet I've saved the government enough $ to employ a large number of guys like you, even at inflated military contractor salary rates.
Not a vet...I see. Thanks for answering JOVIAL's question.
By the way, since when did POW status make a soldier more patriotic than one as decorated as JOVIAL? Perhaps if McCain had paid more attention at the Naval Academy, he wouldn't have even been a POW.
"McCain's grades were 'marginal.' He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958."
"Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents. Robert Timberg wrote that McCain's 'performance was below par, at best good enough to get by.'"
I can't verify jovial's info so I can't comment on it. Another attack on McCain's record by someone else without POW experience. A dumb guy doesn't get into pilot training so any claim of that sort is stupidity. I see, breaking curfew should disqualify him from becoming President. FYI, McCain didn't get captured because he crashed his plane in an accident. He was shot down on a combat mission. Only a tool would grasp for straws by posting this crap and thereby insult every Vietnam pilot tortured by the North Vietnamese!
"A dumb guy doesn't get into pilot training so any claim of that sort is stupidity"
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. What's "stupid" is continual denial of the available data. That alone would disqualify him from the presidency in my book.
DROP:
"He was shot down on a combat mission."
That's only how his 5th crash happened. What happened to the other 4 planes he accidentally crashed.
DROP:
"Only a tool would grasp for straws by posting this crap"
Then, I guess Bush Jr. is a tool because his information was publicized by FORMER MILITARY who supported Bush Jr. in the 2000 South Carolina Primary.
It's nice to know you've finally come to this realization about GW Bush that the other 80% of America has known for several years now. Perhaps some are slower than others, but better late than never.
It is amazing to me on how much the politicians have CHANGED. Take McCain for example. He appears to have done a 180º turn around. A good example is the Dream Act (McCain/Kennedy) from last summer. Perhaps you recall it? The bill was going to give complete amnesty to 12-20 million illegal immigrants in this country. Yes, it is the same bill Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama voted FOR. But never fear they have seen the light! They now feel we need strict immigration reform and a border fence! At least that is how they feel druing the primary and before they get into office. After one of them win, they will do what is good for themselves.
Romney did some flip flops too. Frankly they all make me gag.
I think their slogan in this campaign to the American voter right now is "Welcome aboard the good ship a** kisser. Nice day for a sail!
"According to two separate reports, Romney is being talked up as a running mate by members of the Bush inner circle. But McCain and his closest advisers have little regard for their former rival thanks to the bitter, year-long race waged between the two Republicans.
Romney says, however, that he thinks the wounds have healed.
"There are really no hard feelings, I don't think, on either side of this," he said in the interview. "There were no pacts and so forth that make people feel like that we will never come together. Instead these campaigns are all coming together. We are supporting our nominee enthusiastically, aggressively."
Romney said his top fundraisers have already met with McCain's campaign."
Wow OmegaGnosis! you still got that hankerin for Flip Flop Romney?!!
Hey, maybe bein the VP is a good move on MRs part. If our Anti-Christ McCain wins the election in 08, Romney can work his Cult Magic and put McCain under the Moorman spell!
If you think McCain is zig zaggin all over the place now - wait till Romney gets his hooks into im!!
Go Willard Milton Romney!
Willard Milton Romney...WMR. Hey, those initials seem amost familiar. Oh, I know, they remind me of WMMR.
Help me out here, Goppy? You know anyone with those initials?
lol, snicker, snicker.
You must be an supporter of Obama since you are emphasizing Romney's name in a mocking manner...but we can't know since you don't actually support anything, only attack Christian Conservatives with your bigoted and tired sock puppet routine.
Anti Mormon bigotry too! You've outdone yourself.
Didn't I see you drooling over the "Obama's church is racist" stories?I have an arsenal of mormon truth links,if I see one more of these stories about Obamas church it's ON!
After all ,we have to be "fair and balanced"
http://nowscape.com/mormon/negro.htm
You can talk all you want about what the Mormons did a century or more ago. Obama's problem is CURRENT, as in RIGHT NOW. I certainly don't want a president whose "spiritual advisor" is an America-hating bigot.
You mean like McCains "spiritual advisor" Hagee who blames Katrina on Americans who don't live up to his version of moral?
btw-I live in 21st century Salt Lake City and their beliefs are the same today...just wait til Romney is picked for VP,I'll give you all the dirt.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_mccainhage...
Let's hope that someone so great runs Independent that both Democrats and Republicans vote for him.
Romney is bad news, and McCain isn't much better.
Debra...
I agree.
Goppy...
Deb & Gop,
I respectfully disagree. Totally.
Gary...
I agree to disagree unless the circumstances changes then I will refuse to give my opinion.
ranchhand...
Yehhhh
what he said...or didnt said
I disagree with the first part and agree with the second part
ZiegfeldGirl...
Mitt Romney, ROTFLMAO! Ladies and Gentlemen Romney lost and is still licking his wounds. What wouldn't surprise me though is that even after Romney lied about McCains views on abortion, he might still take him anyway. Look how he's buddy buddy with Bush that also stabbed him in the back before. Must be some leftover "Stockholm syndrome" from the war.
http://www.who-sucks.com/politics/12-reasons-wh...
Mocking a vet? Bet you wouldn't be doing that if it were Kerry again.
I'm a vet myself. I earned the right.
Vietnam? Were you a POW beaten to a pulp on a daily basis? I'm betting that you weren't. No you haven't earned the right.
Says you. You don't have the right to say anything to me, either. Remember? I am a vet. So watch what you're saying to me.
You claim to be a vet but you didn't actually answer any of my earlier questions. The magic of the Internet is that you can make any claim.
The magic of the internet is that people with monikers like yours think that you can have a civil discussion. I don't have to prove anything to you. I know who I am. I know who and where I served. You use a common technique used by conservatives. That is to question the service of other people, many of you whom have never served themselves. Anyone that doesn't support your point of view is automatically a fake. That's why McCain will lose. People like you support him.
Ironically, you are anything but jovial. Once again I ask, were you a POW tortured on a daily basis? If not, the Manchurian Candidate jokes are in extremely poor taste.
Again, says you. Where did you serve? It wasn't a joke. I stated a fact. He has kissed up to Bush after ad hominem attacks on him and his family. How do you conservatives gage a man? Do you admire people that kiss up to people that attack one's family and self? I just illustrated that fact. As far as being a POW. He did that by no choice of his own. Do you see the people that survived Gitmo or Abu Ghraib as heroes as well? They put up with torture for years as well, are they heroes in your pathetic world.
Nice try at avoiding the subject. How do you Libs find a man in your party...I mean a real unneutered one? After the sparing and insults between Hillary and Obama I can't believe that you are calling McCain a hypocrite for acting in a politically expedient manner.
You can't even compare modern terrorist detainees with Vietnam era POWs and it's shameful of you to do so. Gitmo is a coutry club in comparison to the Hanoi Hilton. More people died in Abu Ghraib when Saddam ran the place.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower 1978-1982. USS Midway 1986-1988, 3 Navy expeditionary medals, shellback twice, 3 good conduct awards, Navy achievement medal, aircrew wings. There's my partial list. Now present yours.
Not a POW...I see. Thanks for answering my question.
Answer mine. (crickets)
No, not a veteran but I didn't attack McCain's military record either so an irrelevant aside.
Then address me as sir, and have some respect. The reason you can't attack McCain is because you really don't have a leg to stand on to attack any vet. (that includes me)
Are you a POW? If not, then I don't owe you any special consideration with respect to this issue. Nice try though, Lib! Btw, I'm not attacking your military record, particularly since I can't verify it.
I may not be a POW, but you are zero. So be grateful that I served to protect you and your family. Stop grandstanding about being a "supporter of the troops". It makes me sick to my stomach. We get enough of that from Rush Limbaugh. Talks cheap. It doesn't cost you a dime to support troops as long as they agree with your warped ideology. You baited me into this, and i called your bluff. I know your next excuse will be you had a cyst on your butt, or some other medical reason you couldn't serve. Spare us the details.
You called my bluff? Who's bluffing. I asked if you were a Vietnam Era POW tortured on a daily basis and you were not. I called your bluff. Thank you for your service but you don't have any experience as a POW. I have worked in government for many years, serving my country in my own way but missing combat...much as you did.
Your point is that I can't criticize someone until I've been in the exact identical shoes that they have been in. My point is you can't criticize me either, because you haven't even served! I served and my contribution to the safety of this country is as important as John McCain's. You may not see it that way, because he was caught and captured. For someone that hasn't served this country as nothing more than a sniveling serpent (civil service), I find it hard to accept criticism from you at all.
My point is that I didn't criticize your service and you are attempting to manufacture this claim to cover your own attack on McCain. Actually, I don't snivel. As a performance auditor I actually make government agencies more effective and efficient. Your ignorance of my experience should make it hard to criticize me.
You did! You tried to make it seem as though I were a phony. You certainly implied that. As a contractor for the government I worked for the military and civil servants. I'd rather work for the military commanders than the civil servants. They were usually inefficient and didn't have the expertise. They were always bogged down with a bunch of government regulations and spent frivously. I remember the government office I worked for had to spend the money they had before the fiscal year so they bought everyone new computers whether they needed one or not. Even the janitor's closet had a brand new 3000 dollar computer in it. The Janitor remarked, "I don't even know how to use the damn thing". BTW, I was criticizing McCain. You saw fit to criticize me first. I gave it back to you.
No, I simply said that I couldn't verify your information. I had no idea what you did for a living so I didn't address that subject.
Actually, a lack of regulation and administrative ability plagued the military early in the Iraq War. I had army officer friends who told me about young lieutenants being given suitcases full of money and being told to complete construction projects. Proper budgeting and expenditure schedules would have eliminated the budget situation you described. As for your appraisal of McCain, he's a combat veteran and you aren't.
You are neither, so stand down.
Stand on this! Peacetime naval service doesn't compare to McCain's combat experience.
You're no more a combat veteran than I am so don't get too high and mighty when criticizing McCain's combat performance. You're beginning to sound desperate, grasping for straws to defend an untenable position.
That is a projection of your self. I criticize whomever I please. Don't like it? Don't listen!
I see that you are just blowing smoke out of your a** at this point.
For you to have the audacity to compare your job in some airconditioned office to the job i did while serving my country is incredulous. You must be certifiably insane.
You're the Liberal not me. There's more basis for concluding that you are insane. I bet I've saved the government enough $ to employ a large number of guys like you, even at inflated military contractor salary rates.
I see why you support the war now. Job security.
No, I don't work on the federal level. In any case, the war is actually draining funds from many programs. You've got no point there.
DROP:
"Not a POW...I see."
Not a vet...I see. Thanks for answering JOVIAL's question.
By the way, since when did POW status make a soldier more patriotic than one as decorated as JOVIAL? Perhaps if McCain had paid more attention at the Naval Academy, he wouldn't have even been a POW.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain_military_r...
"McCain's grades were 'marginal.' He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958."
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com...
"Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents. Robert Timberg wrote that McCain's 'performance was below par, at best good enough to get by.'"
I can't verify jovial's info so I can't comment on it. Another attack on McCain's record by someone else without POW experience. A dumb guy doesn't get into pilot training so any claim of that sort is stupidity. I see, breaking curfew should disqualify him from becoming President. FYI, McCain didn't get captured because he crashed his plane in an accident. He was shot down on a combat mission. Only a tool would grasp for straws by posting this crap and thereby insult every Vietnam pilot tortured by the North Vietnamese!
DROP:
"A dumb guy doesn't get into pilot training so any claim of that sort is stupidity"
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. What's "stupid" is continual denial of the available data. That alone would disqualify him from the presidency in my book.
DROP:
"He was shot down on a combat mission."
That's only how his 5th crash happened. What happened to the other 4 planes he accidentally crashed.
DROP:
"Only a tool would grasp for straws by posting this crap"
Then, I guess Bush Jr. is a tool because his information was publicized by FORMER MILITARY who supported Bush Jr. in the 2000 South Carolina Primary.
It's nice to know you've finally come to this realization about GW Bush that the other 80% of America has known for several years now. Perhaps some are slower than others, but better late than never.
It is amazing to me on how much the politicians have CHANGED. Take McCain for example. He appears to have done a 180º turn around. A good example is the Dream Act (McCain/Kennedy) from last summer. Perhaps you recall it? The bill was going to give complete amnesty to 12-20 million illegal immigrants in this country. Yes, it is the same bill Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama voted FOR. But never fear they have seen the light! They now feel we need strict immigration reform and a border fence! At least that is how they feel druing the primary and before they get into office. After one of them win, they will do what is good for themselves.
Romney did some flip flops too. Frankly they all make me gag.
I think their slogan in this campaign to the American voter right now is "Welcome aboard the good ship a** kisser. Nice day for a sail!