Politics – If the Democrats hope to retake the White House in November, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama must stop their negative campaigning against each other and start talking about the issues affecting the country, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said on Monday on TODAY.
I think it's a little too late for pleas.I will say however the dems got the stats. on there side. No presidents party has ever retained the WH in a bad economy.
It appears that every time we have a repub pres, we end up with a bad economy, then there has to be a dem to clean it up, then we go right back to the repubs again!
I just seems to be a vicious cycle!
I don't know about that n2n. I think this last economic cycle has been brewing for at least 20 years fueled by consumer debt and now it's time to pay the Bill.He's had a Congress on his side and off and I didn't see anything happen either way.But traditionally it's the pres. who takes the heat and gotta admit this pres. has got the stove turned on real high.
That's not really true rdy, we were in a bad economic state after Bush the first, which is why he didn't get re-elected, then Bill Clinton cleaned up his mess and we had a good economy until Bush the second, NOW LOOK AT US, in debt to Communist China to the tune of 3 trillion dollars, and i don't have a clue as to how many 0's that even is!
Consumer debt.
Yes, national debt and consumer debt. Not a good combination. That consumer debt is largely based on the relaxing of credit standards, which this administration allowed without oversight. Spending made the economy look good, and therefore they looked good. But they knew what would happen. They knew bankruptcies would go up, & they knew mortgages would fail. That is precisely why the CONS changed bankruptcy laws to favor the predatory lenders. The writing was on the wall, long before it happened.
rdy2rck - For one the current congress doesn't have the votes to change anything. Brewing for the last 20 years? that doesn't make any sense since we had an 8 year boom before this current administration, I can see where we have a 1 to 2 year boom and the economy starts to correct itself but 8 years is an indication of stability in my eyes...the economy was good solid. With a fiscal responsible president in place after Clinton we wouldn't be here today, and these bills you talk of they were paid, do you not remember the 500 billion surplus with a projection in the trillions by 2020? I am sorry but I disagree with you! The current state of the economy was brought on by the gross mismanagement of said economy by this administration. American were paying down or off the debts until the jobs that were created under the Clinton administration were shipped out for cheaper labor.
We were then lied to, the Internet didn't go bad the greed got worse...I own an Internet company that survived this period and it's an All American company, and I know of tens of thousands that are alive and well without moving to the Indies and the likes. Let's face it the GOP are takers they can care less about the economy in my life time they have been nothing but the distraction of a good economy. Tax cuts has never fuel the economy it has always damned it. I am not saying it wouldn't but when that cut go the wealthiest of our nation the money get nested this is simple common sense, why buy a home when you already own 10? When you give to the rich nothing goes back into the economy...I do well and I know what I pay in taxes is just not...well I should pay more!
There is a reason.The repubs run the country into the dirt,they cut programs,spend like drunken sailors,and call themselves fiscal conservatives.lolol.The democrats then get elected to office,turn the economy around,restore social programs,and try to beef up the infrastructure,and this is sometimes done by raising taxes.The repubs then set back and laugh,saying see i told you so, democrats always raise taxes.They start the game all over again,because you have to remember that us Americans want all the perks but we really get pi-sed when we actually have to show some responsibility and pay for these things.The repubs get voted back in and the cycle starts all over again.
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"It's gotten enormously negative," Richardson said of the campaign. The governor spoke just days after adding to the acrimony that has increasingly characterized the battle for the nomination when he announced last week that he would give his superdelegate vote to Obama despite the fact that his own state voted by the slimmest of majorities for Clinton.
I agree with Richardson, the negativity in our party needs to cease.
I agree with you n2n, but I doubt that it will for, sadly, it seems that the one who can sling the most mud is usually the winner.
If that's the case JohnQ, Hillary is a sure bet!
I certainly hope that such is not the case for I believe that she would be disastrous!
Hillary represents change, hope, democracy and not disaster.
Hillary represents whatever it takes to win. After winning, all bets are off. Hillary then represents the Clinton dynasty forever.
It sure took you guys long enough to figure out who Hillary is. I wonder, if Barack wasn't in the race and Hillary went on to an easy win as head of her party; what would you on the Democrat side think of her?
Would you be singing her praise or saying she'd do anything to win as you are now because of Obama being in the race?
I venture to say that the electorate would be much more apathetic. Sure, there would be a surge among women, which may be enough to elect Hillary. But without Obama, the surge in young voters would not be nearly the number that it is today.
And far as whether the left would be singing Hillary's praises: some would, but I would be silent...as would many of us who long for a more progressive Democratic Par
Shudders,,, everytime I hear the word Progressive,,, I get this vison of dollar signs with wings flying about.
It all sounds nice mind you and I'd love to take care of every little problem of the world, but eventually those things need to be paid for with tax money,,,, how tight are money things in the Propeller Community? Do you guys feel the pinch yet? When will we pay for the expensive war? Do we have more money to send to DC? Isn't over 3 trillion dollars a year not enough?
But yet, this war was started by a "conservative" president and the bill will be paid by our grandchildren.
Kind of an oxymoron, huh?
Yes, we DO need progressive change. Starting with an end to this war which should have never been started in the first place.
Just hearing her during the debates made me wanna puke.
Hill wanted this mess, the thing is she never expected the end results. See people give the Clinton and Carvel lot's of credit for winning the election. The true reason why they won was Ron Brown or Howard Deans equivalent. Mr. Brown had the gumption to decide Clinton was front runner and told the others this is our man stand by him or I will kick you sooo hard in the nuts that you would never see the light of day! Dean unfortunately doesn't have the courage to tell the Clinton to go away, and he needs to. Before they interject all the negativity into this race Obama was beating McCain in every pole, today he is about even. They have become the very thing the DEMS accuse the Right of being...Obama wanted none of this negative crap but they wouldn't let up.
Now it may have cost the DEMS the presidency...lady you have won have the states as Obama, you are behind by 120 delegates the leads in the popular votes you are losing in every regards, there is no indication that you will blow him out in any of the remanding states thus leaving you behind in all of the numbers. Is your need to be president more important than the voters decision! History is not forced it is made, as much as you would like to influence history it will do as it pleases, you may push this candidate out but if he is to be president before you he will!
Sorry. In this election, you'd have to have a democrat who was dead to lose to a RepugnantCon who would represent more of the same horrors perpetrated over the last two terms.
We'll see, JohnQ. Obama's gotten pretty far without resorting to those tactics--in fact, changing the way candidates run for office and speak about issues has been the cornerstone of his campaign.
Let's see if any of the others learn anything from him, to be completely honest, i rather doubt it. Seems that we the people are the only ones who want to see this garbage end. You would think they would realize we are sick of it.
I so liek that Bill Richardson fella.
I wisht he woulda been the Democratic nominee.
You Democrats couldnta done much better than him for presdient.
Yikes!! I have to agree with some crazy Christian Conservative coo-koo bird red-neck?!? Oh the horror!! The HORROR!!!
LOL, me too...time to commit harakiri.
We as democrats dropped the ball.WE had Bill Richardson,Joe Biden,Chris Dodd,and we allowed the media to pick Hillary and Obama for us.What a shame.
"WE had Bill Richardson,Joe Biden,Chris Dodd,"
You talk like that's a good thing.
A helluva lot better than anything the repubs could put up.lol
Romney was the best republican, but he got shafted when McCain and Huckababee teamed up against him.
Yup, Romney saw the handwriting on the wall. Why spend the money, when McCain's staff advisor, lobbyist for United Technologies, has UT bid for Diebold.
The best?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/08/jon-st...
Oh man saintetienne.
You are pretty ding dang brave.
Are you even THINKIN bout your comment?
Are you forgettin that we selected the draft dodgin, coke-haid, alcy moron, Goerge W. Bush over all the other choices in 2000?
And that, even in spite of 7 years of immeasurable incompetence, many of us Conservatives still think hes the cats meow?
I mean, in retrospek, GW aint worthy enuf to lick Bill Richardsons shoe.
Course, as Conservatives, wed still vote for him..
Thats just the way we are!
Ideeologie first, America second!
Goppy, you should be syndicated. ;)
Goppy are you ok? I think I am ill, I find myself agreeing with you! Why are you making sense have you switched parties? Oh you stop drinking the GOP Water...good for you, welcome to the real world!
Goppy is a spoof of the nutballs here. He's really one of us....
I thought you knew! Goppy's our resident satirist! He's always sticking it to the neocons in the most delightful ways!! lol
You're right baddad, I really liked Joe Biden and think of him as the ultimate statesman
I was able to meet him several times,caucused for him.A great guy.
"the negativity in our party needs to cease."
Is this a NEW thing?
If he wanted to be vp, he could've stuck w/Hillary, who was wooing him harder than Bill wooed Monica! Had he decided not to go with his conscience but to stay out of misguided loyalty and blind ambition, he never would have had the balls to back the best candidate for the job: Barack Obama!
I see ole Bill is vying for the Vice Presidents job. Watch your back Bill the Clinton's don't like those who stab them in the back.
Obama-Richardson 08? I see a VP dream dancing in his head?