Politics – Has Barack Obama been hurt by his association, now revealed to most American voters, with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? The numbers from Rasmussen Reports supply some answersââ;¬"mostly in the direction of yes.
Now the WSJ is saying Obama was not hurt, but I cannot understand where they get that poll. His negatives are at 46%, from 54% last week, and he certainly ran out, and found plenty of flags to drape himself in at his speeches. Like we wouldn't notice the difference from not even wearing a lapel pin. He is one piece of phony work.
Like aniokly noted in the prior post, Rasmussen's poll is at odds with the WSJ/NBC poll.
Pennsylvania will provide a good test of who is right, although Hillary didn't help herself with the Kosovo "misspeaking." But most of the articles that I've seen about working class white voters in PA document dissatisfaction both with Obama's relationship with Wright and Obama's speech.
I was wondering if anyone else heard her "misspeak."It got very little coverage here and then was dropped like a sack of potatoes.
Little off topic. The news actually got McCain out of hiding and saw a speech. I guess ratings are starting to sag.
rdy, it's all over the radio news
The 24/7 cable networks have given the story top billing as well.
Exaggerated stories are OK in the local bar but not when you're running for public office.
Hillary's problem is she has none of the charm of her hubby - you need charm to pull exaggeration off. Plus, a wink and a nod from a fawning media.
exactly...the whole Hillary lying has been whitewashed and then she lies about it again. She is such a phony and one of least compassionate people I know. Oh ya...when she cries it is for herself. She looks like a mummy now and it is a good thing she brings along those Hollywood make-up artists on her plane
The cracks in the Democratic temple have become fissures.
Bill Clinton is telling Obama to "saddle up for battle" even as Hillary's numbers fall.... People are lobbing Monica questions at Chelsea... Obama's race speech did more harm than good, and he can't shake the "reverend" from his past.... Eliot Spitzer is soon to be indicted, even as his replacement admits to extra-marital affairs with colleagues.... Tony Villaraigosa is dodging reporters about his affair... McGreevey and his wife snipe at each other in court... Voters in Florida and Michigan are disenfranchised.... Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid continue their brigade of uselessness... And for once, bigmouth Howard Dean - agape at all the goings-on and clueless as to what to do - is mercifully silent....
Soon, this collapsing ruin of a political party - being undone from the inside out - will come falling down in a heap. After their landslide loss this November, it's FINISHED.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
(Sigh....) Honestly, you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried! The freak-show circus that the Democrats have become is just COMICAL to watch! How anyone can watch mere television or go to the movies when all this stuff is being provided daily by the Democrat Nut Brigade - - for FREE - - is beyond me!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Somebody really ought to be selling tickets to the public for the Obama/Clinton fights...er, Democratic convention in August. If that isn't going to be entertaining, well then I don't know what is!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
"Somebody really ought to be selling tickets to the public for the Obama/Clinton fights...er, Democratic convention in August"
They might have to sell tickets!
Money Troubles in Denver
While the dragged-out Democratic primary battle is taking its toll on the candidates, their staffs and their anxious supporters, it is also making it much harder to plan the coronation.
The host committee for the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver is finding it difficult to raise the $55 million it has promised in exchange for the privilege of holding the event at the Pepsi Center
Last Monday, the committee failed to achieve its latest fund-raising deadline imposed by the DNC. The committee has missed two of its three interim deadlines before the full amount comes due on June 16.
Thanks nostalgia! And might I add.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This is TYPICAL of Democrats. Give 'em a goal and a deadline and they'll blow it every time! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Honestly, what is WRONG with this party? They just DON'T want to WORK! I guess that, as per usual, they're all sitting around waiting for the government to step in and take care of everything. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Ahhhhh....I'm telling you, this campaign has been quite an eye-opener. It really has opened up the can of worms that is this party. The corruption.... the scandals.... the past ties and alliances with motley crooks.... the inability to coalesce the party into a cohesive force.... the in-fighting.... the lack of drive, gumption or even blind LUCK to get anything accomplished.... the campaign workers defecting in droves... the sheer BUFFOONERY of people like Pelosi, Reed, Dean, Boxer, Kennedy, Kerry and now Clinton and Obama!!
I'm just laughing upROARiously as each day goes by!
I'm simply grateful that I don't need to vote in this apology for a "race for the leadership".....
They (the 3 front runners from BOTH) parties, all appear to be as bad as each other....
My only preference is NOT Hillary, for the final "nail in her coffin" was lying over her grandstanding.....
For the other two, may your God help your country.....
This does not bode well........
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Very good, BoBo, I just posted a comment regarding Obama's poll numbers against McCain on the story you posted yesterday.
Well I'm expecting this to be called, lies, hate, racism, etc.
The usual Wright Wingnut stuff.
Well BoBo I just got here so I was wondering if you was trying to get yourself called a racist again.LMAO
Anyway, I've seen all kinds of polls but for the life of me can't see HOW this is not hurting him.
He's asking for a banning. That had to be the biggest bucket of whine I've seen on Propeller.
Obama has been hurt in the polls. Every poll that I have seen shows a spike downward in the middle of March. A downward spike running against Hillary and, more importantly, a downward spike running against McCain. Did something else happen around March 14th that would explain it?
Joe, I think that people are thinking of their own churches, past and present.
They are thinking about how they would feel if they heard hate sermons in their church.
Obama's close friend Wright is bringing out these feelings - and they just has to be negative.
That's a very sympathetic point of view, Klarissa. I wonder how many clowns from yesterday will tell you that???
I'm not sure where your comments coming from Klarissa. I can barely chat here in real time, but thinking about church was one of the first things that hit me even before I barely knew what was going on.
First I was shocked propeller even used those words on there headlines and my second thought was a preacher using those words under any circumstances especially in a church. Then we know what else happened.
I'm not old fashioned except in this case.There's certain words you just don't use and if you do you apologize.I remember very clearly the first times I used the gd,f and n word.Didn't have a clue what they meant but got me a bar of soap in the mouth,two weeks grounding and a long lecture.And this was where I first started coming from i this situation.
I don`t get this babble about Reverend Wright.
Is he Obama`s Reverend Hagee or something?
http://dev.artvoice.com/blogs/2008/03/27/revere...
Oh, or is ok for McCain to seek a hateful, racist reverend but not ok for Obama to distance himself from a hateful, racist reverend.
Hmm, can you spell hypocrite?
spike downward?
are you talking about the 6 point dip from the time this all started until now? (btw, six point is nothing)
are you talking about hillary's present lead on Obama (49-42) that was the exact same lead back in feb (49-42)?
are you talking about the fact that in the latest Gallup Poll obama's approval rating is actually higher today than it was in feb?
are you talking about the Pew Poll that just came out that says there has been no negative effect on Obama's campaign?
or the WSJ poll that said the same thing? or the CBS poll?
didn't think so.
you guys are precious.
NWM - The precious one is you.
February: Hillary led 49 to 42.
March (post Wright): Hillary leads 49 to 42
What happened in between?
Obama made the February lead disappear quickly. Now that progress he made is gone. Wright had nothing to do with that?
There's no doubt that Obama was at least temporarily damaged by his connection to Jeremiah Wright. But as to whether he's recovered that lost ground--well, as usual, it depends on which poll you're looking at. According to Gallup, he is now leading Hillary Clinton by four percentage points, and is a mere two points below his pre-Wright high. Me, I take all polls with a great big grain of salt. And that applies to exit polling as well.
Gallup:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105724/Gallup-Daily-...
I don't take polls too seriously either, James. They do help fire the debates. I know several times I have mislead pollsters by giving incorrect answers, usually because they ask directed questions. The WSJ poll had very clean questions. The biggest area that I saw an effect from Wright was on how McCain's numbers jumped up in relation to running against Obama or Clinton.
JOEEDDIE:
"I don't take polls too seriously either, James. "
Maybe this will help. The website RealClearPolitics doesn't rely on a single poll. It simply averages the results of 6 national head-to-head polls. It shows Obama having a slim lead over McCain, and McCain having an ever slimmer lead over Hillary.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Obama: 45% McCain: 44.3%
Clinton: 45.0% McCain: 45.5%
You can also see that the apparent outlier within the 6 head-to-head polls is the same Rasmussen poll which this article and BOBO cites EXCLUSIVELY, while ignoring the results of the other head-to-head polls, which have Obama in the lead or have the race in a statistical tie.
Of course, it comes as no surprise that BOBO and ANIOKLY (in another thread) would cherrypick the SINGLE poll (Rasmussen) that would mollify their preconceived misconceptions and would ignore the other 5 head-to-head polls that contradict it.
I'm kind of blank on numbers this second but the polls I find most striking are the negative ratings of all the candidates which suggest a pretty deep polarization.
RDY:
"the polls I find most striking are the negative ratings of all the candidates which suggest a pretty deep polarization."
In that case, you'd be interested in this poll from the Wall Street Journal (which is generally considered to be a conservative publication).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120657171729866...
OBAMA: "49% view Obama positively to 32% negatively"
MCCAIN: "45% view McCain positively to 25% negatively"
CLINTON: "48% have negative feelings toward her and 37% positive, a decline from a net positive 45% to 43% rating in early March."
Interesting read and thanks.But the negs still stick out in my mind as high but could be for lots of reasons.
This Wright thing may have not stuck with the public but i can bet the media will use it up until the end just like McCains "100 year war" unless something better turns up.
"Obama made the February lead disappear quickly. Now that progress he made is gone. Wright had nothing to do with that?"
Barone, in his article, tries to make it as if the number shift was rather significant. but if you look at the numbers, there have been much more significant number shifts between the two candidates in the same amount of time (like between feb 1-feb 14, when the nubers shift was twice as big as in the last two weeks).
point is, Wright may have caused a small blip. but that's it. and all the numbers I've been showing you prove that. all the polls spell that out.
This idiot Wolf Blitzer (x - Jewish lobbyist) of CNN has been harping on the is one line for over a week and they don't about mention anything about his distinguished army career or the good he has done.
Then the story about Hillary comes out on her lying about coming under sniper fire and they almost completely whitewash it. Then she says she mispoke which of course is another outright lie!!!!!!! She is desperate and she will say of do anything to win. Just ask the 47 or more people who were advisers/body guards who worked for the Clintons in the past. Oh...sorry, you can't because all of them are dead and many under very suspicious circumstances. Dead men don't talk!!!!!!
Saying that you were under sniper fire is a lot different from her being connected to someone that thinks whitey is the devil. People say a lot of stupid things to get elected. choosing to be part of a hate filled church for 20 years is a big deal.
They are different DL but I thought all along both merited equal attention because IMO are both just wrong and if someone likes it or not expose a potential moral character for which the public has a right to know.
" I've seen all kinds of polls but for the life of me can't see HOW this is not hurting him..."
I guess we'll have to wait for the general election to see that.
You got the point.
BoBo congratulated himself as follows: "Well I'm expecting this to be called, lies..."
I wouldn't call it a lie. Spin would be more accurate. It's not "Polls Show". The Truth is "A Poll Shows."
Since that poll is from RepugniCon spinmaster Scott Rasmussen, and since it conflicts with a whole host of other reliable polls, I doubt it indicates anything more than the Repugs continued wish to get Hillary nominated as their Democratic opponent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Rasmussen
Conflicting Polls:
Pew: http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/pe...
Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/105724/Gallup-Daily-...
WSJ/NBC: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/document...
Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/032008_rele...
RCP: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Hooray for the Right, uberfuhrer k-ludlow. America's not quite diminished to third world status. There is still a bit of wealth left for your RepugniCons to siphon off for the ultra-wealthy multinationals. Stay the course and elect a Bush clone.
Obama just raised $50 million last month. Hillary, John Edwards, Barrack Obama, John Kerry... ALL millionaires. I guess they dont count since they call themselves the party of the poor. Well you know what, they are the ones that keep the people poor so they can give them free stuff and buy votes.
Vote for Barrack or Hillary, the party of Hypocrites.
Riiiight. And RepugniCon tax cuts running up 10 trillion dollars in debt and mortgaging America to the Communist Chinese isn't buying votes, is is? Party on, Repugs. It's the Christian thing to pass the debt for your fun on to your children's children