Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a True Patriot »
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not2needy4 months, 2 weeks ago
This article should be on the front page!
None of the conservatives will ever be willing to read it though.
Jeremiah Wright was a true Patriot!!
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Goppy4 months, 2 weeks ago
Its liek this Oniony, we Conservatives dont need to read.
We FEEL!!
We have PASSION!
We STAND for stuff!!
Course, it seems liek all the Stuff we Feel Passionate about is kinda ugly.
But hey, ever Sunday, we aske for forgiveness and then we start all over on Monday with the ugly.
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
Except for the fact that liberals are the ones who vote with their feelings as opposed to using rational thought. Just watch any debate if you want to see evidence of this. After a conervative debate the panel will tell you why they think ____ would make a good president. However, you turn the channel and watch a democrat debate and you see these morons saying things like "I feel like BO was talking only to me, that's why I like him".
This article is trash and nothing more. I am also not surprised that you haters liked it.
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dunkirk4 months, 2 weeks ago
" After a conervative debate the panel will tell you why they think ____ would make a good president."
ROFLMAO, Tangy you don't even realize when you post things that continue to support what everyone already knows about the righties. They need to be told who is a good candidate because they can't figure it out for themselves.
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
Dunny, notice that I said conservatives *think* before deciding which way to vote. Unlike the libs at the debates who feel that candidates are speaking directly to them and even though they cannot name one thing that person has done or will do, they will still support them because of their feelings.
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dunkirk4 months, 2 weeks ago
Ummm Tangy read the part that was highlighted. ROFLMAO, the thinking seems to be already done for them since they need to be told WHO would make a good president, definetly seems like they cant figure it out for themselves and electing Dumya twice sure does offer proof in that area.
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
I really don't think you are following me here dunny. I never once said anything about anyone telling us who to vote for. I was using the example of the groups of voters that networks use to determine how the debate is going as it is happening. For some stupid reason you took that as me saying that we need to be told who to vote for but did not make the same conclusion about the dems who I mentioned do the same thing.
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
TANGLANG:
"liberals are the ones who vote with their feelings as opposed to using rational thought."
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. In general, it is Republicans who tend to emotionalize elections and Democrats who tend to intellectualize them.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/...
"Therein lies a fundamental difference between Democrats, who tend to intellectualize elections, and Republicans, who like to emotionalize them."
In fact, Republicans often choose their candidate, not based on issues, but on who they'd rather have a beer with. That's how Bush won in 2000 and 2004.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/...
"A Zogby Poll found that 57% would rather have a beer with Bush, despite his many problems, than with Kerry."
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DropkickaLib4 months, 2 weeks ago
Not true. I wouldn't care to drink with McCain. In any case, the purpose of that question wasn't to determine for whom you would vote. It was a trivial question.
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
DROP:
"Not true. I wouldn't care to drink with McCain. In any case, the purpose of that question wasn't to determine for whom you would vote. It was a trivial question."
Do you have actual evidence to support your rebuttal, or am I supposed to accept your argument simply because you said so?
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
DROP:
"You made the assertion. You prove it."
You mean aside from the two sources I already cited? LOL. Where is your evidence? Oh, that's right. I forgot. It's your MO not to provide any.
This very exchange only further supports my argument. My post was accompanied by two pieces of supporting evidence (Democrats tend to intellectualize), and yours was accompanied by nothing (Republicans tend to emotionalize).
LOL.
By the way, you might want to check your facts. I didn't initially make this assertion; I was merely refuting the assertion TANGLANG initially made.
Pathetic.
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
TANGLANG:
"YOU calling an opinion piece a "source" to back up your claim!"
A poll conducted by Zogby -- one of the most respected polling companies in the world -- can hardly be dismissed as an "opinion piece." It's laughable you would attack my sources, particularly one as credible as Zogby, without presenting ANY evidence of your own.
LOL. How typically neocon of you.
PATHETIC.
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
DROP:
"In any case, no one takes a beer poll seriously, even the pollster."
Actually, it was a "likability" poll, not a "beer poll." The beer question was just one of the several questions posed by this poll.
Still no evidence of your own to present? LOL
How expected. "You'll have to do better than that." LOL.
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MRCOFFEECAKE4 months, 2 weeks ago
Ohhhhh you can read!
You're making progress.
Now try reading for meaning!
HERE'S THE MEANING:
YOU SEE McCAIN IS ELDERLY (that means over 65 years old)
THE ELDERLY CANNOT DRINK MUCH BECAUSE THEY TIRE EASILY
(no, that doesn't mean turn into rubber, it means get tired)
SO IT WAS A JOKE..
Sorry if one missed vowel throws all those with A-D-D off,
but that must be why you love Bush so much. He's your poster child for not being able to follow a conversation.
Got it now??
A joke??
Lost your sense of humor..
Sorry we can't help you!
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
What I find very funny is that you once again post somebody elses opinion to try and prove your point. Probably because you cannot think for yourself.
((("A Zogby Poll found that 57% would rather have a beer with Bush, despite his many problems, than with Kerry.")))
Well no sht sherlock! Kerry is a douchebag. At least W speaks his mind. I bet he's a cool guy when you get to know him. Kerry is just political arm candy for his wife.
As for the poll itself, it in no way proves anything. All it says is that more people think Bush would be more fun to drink with than Mr Potato head.
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
TANGLANG:
"What I find very funny is that you once again post somebody elses opinion to try and prove your point. Probably because you cannot think for yourself."
LOL.
It's laughable that you're too obtuse to realize how this very post only further proves my argument. My post was dispassionate and void of ad hominems. Instead, I simply refuted your original assertion that liberals are emotional, irrational creatures. I even provided two different pieces of documentation as counter-evidence. I was, in effect, intellectualizing the debate with dispassionate discourse and documented data.
And what do you respond with? No counter-evidence of your own. No dispassionate discourse. All you have to offer is a post filled with ad hominems. By stooping to this level, you have emotionalized the debate and have only further proved argument --
Democrats tend to intellectualize; Republicans, emotionalize. Time for you to go back to school.
Class dismissed.
Pathetic.
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
"And what do you respond with? No counter-evidence of your own. No dispassionate discourse. All you have to offer is a post filled with ad hominems."
What are you new? The links you posted were crap. There was nothing to refute. Just someone elses opinion. That's why I laughed them off.
"Time for you to go back to school.
Class dismissed."
Well which is it? Time for me to go to school, or is class dismissed?
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ybdogsct4 months, 2 weeks ago
TANGLANG:
"The links you posted were crap. There was nothing to refute. Just someone elses opinion. That's why I laughed them off."
Actually, you laughed them off because you knew you had ZERO counter-evidence to present. Only an undereducated fool, like yourself, would so easily dismiss a poll by an internationally-recognized polling firm like Zogby International as "crap."
LOL. Then again, facts were never your forte. It's laughable that even in the face of documented evidence you lack the intellectual capacity to muster ANYTHING that resembles a coherent, data-supported response.
TANGLANG:
"Well which is it? Time for me to go to school, or is class dismissed?"
One class does not a graduate make.
LOL. It seems like all those drugs you did in your youth must have done some permanent damage.
Pathetic.
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Blackacereturn4 months, 2 weeks ago
One question Tanglang. Did you vote for bush, i will give you a pass the first time did you vote for him the second time?
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tanglang4 months, 2 weeks ago
I wish I could see your face as you read this, but I only voted for Bush once. In 2004! Back in 2000 I voted for the guy who LOST! Otherwise known as Al Gore. It was not until shortly after the election and my 21st birthday that I sobered up and decided to become a productive member of society as opposed to the pothead liberal dropout that I had been for so long.
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m-simon4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey guys. I hate to break the news but you are not running against Bush. You are running against a war hero.
What you got? Obama ever do service? Hillary spend time in the military?
But hey keep Wright to the front. Make sure he is not forgotten.
McCain will love it. So will I.
G D AmeriKKKa. Great campaign slogan!
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icono14 months, 2 weeks ago
It's amazing how one's eyesight can improve when being shot at.
But in the Hilldabeast's case it was all a fantasy story. It did sound good but then it wasn't true.
Maybe instead of playing fantasy football online she plays fantasy GI in her mind.
Hummmm.....I wonder if Bill knows about this; sounds sorta kinky in a psycho-subversive way.
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PapaWolf4 months, 2 weeks ago
OK. We'll keep a war hero, a preacher, and a man who's fought discrimination, poverty & social injustice for decades.
He may not have been politically correct or expedient, but many - Dems, Reps & Independents - have condemned America for many of its activities or lack thereof.
What's worse:
- Condemning the US for its past & ongoing racism, support of despots, & overthrowing of democratic governments around the world & over the years, or
- Basically condoning terrorist attacks & natural disasters on the US, costing thousands of lives, because of the US's "secularism"; calling over 50% of the electorate traitors, unpatriotic & aiding & abetting terrorists because we disagree w/this administration; etc?
McCain: I'll cave on torture because Rove told me to.
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Blackacereturn4 months, 2 weeks ago
I am a productive member of society and I finished school and have my own business. Maybe you were a pothead because well you just were. I hope you don't think libs are the only ones that drop out, thy the VP and rove he went to five different colleges and still haven't gotten a degree. I digress, my point was that you are in no position to make your previous comments if you voted for bush the second time around. it was a bone headed thing to do!
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MRCOFFEECAKE4 months, 2 weeks ago
You have just stated that the norm for this group is hate.
The only thing they should hate is your stupidity, but time after time they tolerate it, even though you keep coming back for more.
Your ability to reason has been gone, and pretending to be a conservative doesn't negate the PERMANENT damage that pot does to your brain.. Thanks for the explanation.
You further go on to say as "WE know them as haters" and you still don't realize that you are in a very small minority here.
WE can't play into you delusions, so just positive and negatives and THAT will tell you who the "WE" is here and who really "hates" the youth of our country so much that you still support sending them off to their early deaths and destroying their families. THAT is beyond hate, it is blind contempt... You just don't get it..Braincells gone!
NO ability to reason. Grow up, grow a conscience.
Live in the real world for a few years.
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MRCOFFEECAKE4 months, 2 weeks ago
Ahhhh, no.
We don't send them there because we hate them, we send them there with no plan or appropriate armor or decent hospitals
to return to because we "hate" meeting our responsibilities or being held accountable for our deficiencies and THEY pay for it... Better?
We don;t hate them, we just don't respect them enough to tell them the truth or fully honor our commitment to decent treatment... Waving a flag and singing anthems at them was what destroyed Rome..
We've already gone through 9 Generals, 4 Admirals, a Bremer
and 2 Secretaries of Defense and they're still getting blown up and have no idea what "winning is"..THAT is disrespectful
and the worst thing we can ever do to our troops.
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Niimki4 months, 2 weeks ago
C'mon man...you don't wait until Monday to do ugly stuff. Your probably working on your second six pack, smacking the wife around and abusin the kids by Sunday afternoon....
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aceofspades14 months, 2 weeks ago
"This is one article no one in the GOP will read."
How many of the commentators here have read this article?
So JW was in the military 47 years ago? so what?
If the fact that he meritoriously served forgives him of anything he has said since, then there is something seriously wrong with the reasoning.
The same people who cite this service as a free ride to denigrate our country from the pulpit should deify John McCain (which I don't) because of his service & imprisonment by the Viet Cong.
The Rev. Wright can swing his arms above his head as he preaches his message of hate, McCain can't lift his arm because of the torture he endured.
I don't support McCain nor Obama in their bids for the presidency & I certainly don't condone Jerimiah Wright.
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aceofspades14 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't support McCain nor Obama in their bids for the presidency & I certainly don't condone Jerimiah Wright.
I feel the cause of liberalism is hurt by people who blindly follow the words of the radicals such as St.Clair & Cockburn the same way the right wing cons blindly follow the unsubstantiated rantings of those like Rush Limburger
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aceofspades14 months, 2 weeks ago
N2N - a neg from you is an affirmation that I am right - the same as a neg from someone like Wolfie when he thinks its too far to the laft
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MRCOFFEECAKE4 months, 2 weeks ago
I agree..For me this article points out that Obama does not
presently have the right people around him (advisors) who
are capable of having him make public declarations of clarity.
The fact that he mentioned few of the facts in this article on behalf of Rev. Wright, knowing that Rev. Wright has devoted his own life to America when others cowardly walked or ran away, makes me wonder if Obama is well suited for leadership.
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MRCOFFEECAKE4 months, 2 weeks ago
The Republican have been using the pulpit to force their "holier than thou" agenda on the dumb folks down south (mostly)
for 30 years strong..
I would know, I am a former active Republican.
They have no conscience and no courage unless it involves risking the lives of someone else's kids??
By the way, how's that "Reagan brought Russia to their knees
concept going?"
They are more of a real threat now than they have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis..
Good thing we armed the Taliban against them...
OOPS!
This is what happens when we let cowboys be president.
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MonkeyBiz4 months, 2 weeks ago
Lordy I hate repeating myself...Bush is a private school, Yalie, fratboy cheerleader turned carpet bagger, whose family home is Kennebunkport, MAINE. All we know about Maine in Texas is that it is buried under the snow somewhere to the north of New Yawk. Never heard of cowboys from up there. Can you lasso and brand a lobster?
For the zillionth time, Bush IS NOT a cowboy!! Calling him one is a grave insult to generations of real cowboys. He is all hat and no cattle (though he does have a nice hat).
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cushi4 months, 2 weeks ago
Have you listened Jeremiah Wright's sermons in their entirety? Have you listened to any of his other sermons preached over a period of roughly 30 years?
What gives you the right to judge him based on a handful of cherry picked comments and give NO weight to anything else?
Rev. Wright has said nothing more or less than many other preachers and prophets have said across the years and centuries. As usual, a true prophet is rejected and disrespected by the masses. There is a thin line between love and hate - you deem his words hateful; I deem them painfully truthful and biblical. Only history will prove one of us right.
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JoseMadre4 months, 2 weeks ago
"Have you listened Jeremiah Wright's sermons in their entirety? Have you listened to any of his other sermons preached over a period of roughly 30 years?"
I could have won a Medal of Honor and spent my life serving the poor of the world, but if I were get up on a pulpit and blame every ill in the country on a specific racial group and spew out conspiracy theories, people will properly question me and those to whom I am close.
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slate4 months, 2 weeks ago
What gives you the right to judge him based on a handful of cherry picked comments and give NO weight to anything else?
Tren Lott?
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djn3nunez34 months, 2 weeks ago
"The same people who cite this service as a free ride to denigrate our country from the pulpit"
Perhaps it is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_...
or those type of things that this country has done to the former slaves that he hates.
I think Obama has the ability to put things in perspective, unlike the shrills who keep up hate baiting.
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Tangent0014 months, 2 weeks ago
The same sort of thing DOES happen today! For the same injury or illness, a black patient is less likely to be given pain medications than a white patient, even though white patients are MORE LIKELY to abuse or become addicted to such meds. For similar crimes and circumstances, a black person is likely to get a harsher sentence than a white person. Killing a white person is more likely to get you the death sentence than killing a black person.
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DropkickaLib4 months, 2 weeks ago
You haven't provided any data on medical care. In any case, none of these examples are analygous to purposely allowing someone to live with untreated syphillis. It doesn't happen now. As for black on black crime and sentences given to blacks, those are different issues unrelated to clinical ethics.
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DropkickaLib4 months, 2 weeks ago
That just proves that you're an old fart. Today's clinical ethics would never permit that kind of experiment.
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Georgia504 months, 2 weeks ago
I am a registered Republican. I read the article. And I find this article proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the racist hatred YOU PEOPLE said Wright experienced, and that YOU PEOPLE offered as an excuse for his racist hatred, is an abject frikkin lie.
THE REV. WRIGHT, HAVING PROVED HIMSELF IN A WHITE MAN'S WORLD, HAVING EARNED THE RESPECT OF WHITE SUPERIORS, STARED THAT SUCCESS IN THE EYE AND DELIBERATELY CHOSE HATE INSTEAD.
Thank you for the article. We could not have made the point better or more clear ourselves.
Oh...and kudos for missing your own point. Que the MasterCard commercial.
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dunkirk4 months, 2 weeks ago
I think you need to read Tangy's comment above. SOmeone needs to explain to you what it is you've read.
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cushi4 months, 2 weeks ago
You are missing two critical things in your assessment:
(1) Rev. Wright succeeded in spite of the rampant racism of his time, which is a testimony to God's mercy, and the Reverend's determination and endurance.
(2) The Bible teaches that when one part of the body suffers, the entire body suffers. Rev. Wright is not a self-centered, I got mine and you get yours the best way you can kind of personality. He understands that his people and others were and are suffering under an oppressive government that hides its agression and transgressions under a facade of freedom and democracy.
We really could be what we claim to be, but we are not there yet, not by a long shot!
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DropkickaLib4 months, 2 weeks ago
Sure he was. He recruited disciples who were busy working when he approached them. He emphasized the concept of personal responsibility. Jesus teachings are compatible with the market.
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Tangent0014 months, 2 weeks ago
I find it tiresome that for some:
Anyone with any inkling of social compassion/consciousness is a 'Marxist'.
Anything less than full-bore laissez-faire Capitalism is 'Communism'.
Anyone not constantly shaking their red, white and blue pompons is 'anti-American'.
Anyone who points out racial injustice is a 'hater'.
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DropkickaLib4 months, 2 weeks ago
The Strategic Oil Reserve? That's an irrelevant argument when discussing banking.
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Georgia504 months, 2 weeks ago
Number one, the OT & NT is for believers, not the secular world. Please review the alleged liberal view of separation of church and state, then get back to us.
Number two, the verses about the body suffering refers only to the body of believers, not to general nameless, faceless victims somewhere at some time who may or may not have been victims of racism and who may or may not be Christian.
Merely because a segment of the minority population chooses to wallow in victimhood does not in itself impute guilt to governmental authority. As someone has quite aptly said, "If everyone is a victim, then no one is a victim."
It's YOUR argument and sermons like Rev. Wright's that are an injustice to those who have truly, directly, and horrifically suffered the brunt of racism in this country.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin4 months, 2 weeks ago
''Number one, the OT & NT is for believers, not the secular world.''
thanks for the chuckle
of course it isn't for the secular world, that's why Jesus never preached to the Gentiles and sent his disciples only to other Jews. That's why there are no gideon bibles in motel rooms and no missionaries in Africa. That's why the bible isn't published very much and there aren't many around. Thank God the bible isn't for the secular world, or people would go door to door talking to secularists about it.
Guess what, as far as Christianity, the whole world was the secular world when JC came around.
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