Politics – Barack Obama has long argued that he has shown better foreign policy judgment than his remaining presidential rivals, specifically in opposing the Iraq war.
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Obviously Obama was joking when he said he has foreign policy experience. Visiting your relatives in Kenya does not give you foreign policy experience. Beside that, his relatives belong to the luo tribe. The rebels fighting the pro-American government. If he is so experienced maybe he should call his Muslim siblings, and negotiate peace.
He didn't say he had "experience," as in Hillary Clinton's experience traveling with Bill while she was first lady, or McCain's experience as a POW. Here's what Obama said:
"...foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."
Where did he get his foreign policy experience, and what is it? He won't say, but surrender is not an option. He was a child when he lived in Indonesia. He has no military experience that may have allowed him to travel. What is his experience?
A military experience should not be the foundation of a foreign policy.
Our current leader had no foreign policy experience. If you feel that he has done a good job, which I suspect you do, his example shoots down your logic. If you feel that his foreign policy has let the country down, which I believe you will disagree with, that would support your statement.
Can you see the issues with what you have stated?
Still waiting. What is Obama's foreign policy experience? He talks. All he has is talk. He will not get away with Change, and Hope in the General election. BTW, when his wife spoke in S C recently they tried to find white people to put on camera, so we wouldn't know he is not doing well with white people, probably because he spent twenty years letting his pretend Uncle curse, and damn the country he wants to be President of. Where is his white support. Blacks only make up twellve, and a half percent of the population, not nearly enough to win in November.
Not that your comment about who supports Barack is related to the article, but he has support from about four times the percentage of the population that African-Americans comprise, according to all the recent polls.
The mob rule mentality of polls means nothing, bush was elected twice and so was reagan.
You are delusional. Most of those votes were against Hillary, and they won't be around in November. Sen Obama is weak on defense, weak on National Security, and no, he does not have foreign policy experience. no matter how he "feels"
Defense and national security have to do with a lot more than the military. Diplomacy--look it up--is the most effective way to protect the country.
And yet AGAIN--nowhere in anything Obama said mentioned the word "experience." Are you not reading? Or do you not understand the difference between experience and knowledge?
aniokly: Annie Obtuse Oakley. She's always got her gun. :)
"pretend Uncle"
OMG, aniokly! Thanks - you just made chai tea come out my nose! Too funny.
NUMPTY: Doesn't that hurt since your head is up your butt?
HOW DO you even drink tea with your head in that position, but I now know why Wendy's has so many burnt hamburgers
What a dense one you are NUMPTY
gave himself an enema at the same time.. multi-tasking
"I now know why Wendy's has so many burnt hamburgers"
I don't know why you're always insulting people who work at Wendy's, Hannibullcrap. Most of them get sick pay, accrue vacation time, draw full medical benefits and make more money than you.
Of course, I suppose being at your mother's beck and call while living in her basement as you do, Hannifullofschit, has its advantages. For the life of me I can't think of any, but I'm sure you derive SOME degree of joy from rubbing your mother's foot bunions and raiding her refrigerator during commercial breaks of "Jerry Springer".
"you just made chai tea come out my nose!"
I was eating. This mental picture didn't help my digestion.
"This mental picture didn't help my digestion."
Neither does the prospect of an Obama presidency. But if it comes to pass, I'll get over it and get on with my life. Unlike you Libs, who have done nothing but cry and moan and whine for the last seven years, blaming Bush for everything from the reason your children hate you to the waxy yellow buildup on your kitchen floor.
God, it must be miserable to be a Lib, day in and day out. Oh well. Why would I care? I can't care. I'm a Republican.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
"Unlike you Libs"
I'm a Republican and a Conservative. I voted for Bush twice, solely because he was the lesser of the evils. I haven't been crying or moaning or blaming Bush for anything other than lacking the courage to BE A TRUE REPUBLICAN.
Frankly, if you really are a Republican (and I'm beginning to suspect you're a troll), I want better - I expect better - from you than this.
um, OBAMA IS ON THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE.
The senate foreign relations committee has oversight over the foreign policy agencies of the U.S. government, including the State Department, the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Millennium Challenge Corporation, and the Peace Corps. The Committee reviews and considers all legislation relating to U.S. foreign policy, as well as all diplomatic nominations and international treaties.
Obama's main piece of legislation in this committee was the the Lugar-Obama bill, a bill that expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
the bill was co-authored by Richard Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL).
so, not only does Obama have relevant foreign policy experience, he also has the ability to reach across the aisle to get sh*t done.
see how easy that was?
"um, OBAMA IS ON THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE."
Considering the Dems have controlled the Senate for less than 2 years and he isn't in a leadership position even within his own party, that is pretty much meaningless.
"...he also has the ability to reach across the aisle to get sh*t done."
Really? YOu mean the bill written by Lugar based on legislation written by Lugar and already enacted? That just means Lugar was smart enough to let Obama affix his name to the measure to gain bi-partisan support. Clearly, LUGAR can reach across the aisle to get things done.
who are you to judge anyone on their foreign policy experience? you're a bushbot. which means you have no clue about foreign policy, just like bush.
I can't wait until Obama's in a debate facing McCain and McCain is unable to distinguish between sunni and shiite and keeps saying how his time in baghdad was like being at the state fair.
is that what you call sound foreign policy experience? that's what I call a shortcut to thinking.
you're a joke. and not a very funny or clever one.
NEXT!!!
Ani I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that you find a dictionary (that's a book with all sorts of words in it and tells you what those words mean) then look up the word
EXPERIENCE-"practical contact with and observation of facts or events" or "the knowledge or skill acquired by such means over a period of time, esp. that gained in a particular profession by someone at work "
Then look up..
UNDERSTAND-"perceive the intended meaning of" or "perceive the significance, explanation, or cause of (something)" or "be sympathetically or knowledgeably aware of the character or nature of"
He DIDN'T say he had more EXPERIENCE he said "I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."
And given that McCain DOESN'T KNOW the difference between al Qaeda and Iran doesn't KNOW the difference Sunni Muslims and Shi'ite Muslim
or
that Clinton doesn't KNOW what snipper fire is I think he may be right
He didn't say experience, he said he had a better UNDERSTANDING of the dynamics. No where in the article did he say experience. Re-read the article.
"Our current leader had no foreign policy experience."
I'm pretty sure any governor of Texas has foreign policy experience -- and not only with Mexico. Most governors gain foreign policy experience as markets become more and more global in scope.
Yeah, and he played lots of foreign-made video games.
aniokly--I'll repeat: He didn't say he had "experience." He said he KNOWS MORE and UNDERSTANDS THE WORLD BETTER.
I have no doubt that's true.
O K, what does he know? Can he share it with the rest of us? He is full of it. He is not as experienced about foreign policy as Hillary, and neither is as experienced as Sen McCain who has traveled the world as a Senator. Obama hasn't been in the Senate that long.
Might be that he knows because he's actually lived in other parts of the world.
But however he gained his knowledge, he realizes what's going on in Iraq, who is supporting the government, and who is supporting the rebels.
And he knew BEFORE we attacked Iraq that deposing Saddam would lead us into a hugely expensive quagmire, trying to stabilize factions who've been at each other's throats for hundreds of years. Apparently, neither McCain nor Hillary got that--not to mention our president and his administration of chickenhawks.
wow, he was really ahead of the curve, NO ONE thought iraq would turn into a debacle. get real. lol
You get real! That is a fact that everyone is familiar with except you...so apparently you're the Rip Van Winkle here. Wake up to reality, snoozer!
Origin, I didn't say no one thought of it other than Obama.
I said he did think Iraq would be a debacle, and McCain and Hillary Clinton did not.
Or, as Hillary might like to say, she did think it would be difficult to stabilize Iraq after deposing Saddam, but she believed the falsified and cherry-picked intelligence the administration gave her.
wow, he was really ahead of the curve, NO ONE thought iraq would turn into a debacle.
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No one except ALL of the people in the Bush I Administration as stated by a guy named Dick Cheney on April 15, 1994.
Yea, the SAME Dick Cheney who is now VICE PRESIDENT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY
you're joking right?
Bush sr. said it would be a debacle. he even wrote it in his book, well before his stupid son stepped into the biggest pile o'poo in US foreign policy history.
Obama lived in other parts of the world in a Madrasa :)
ani
And what exactly do YOU know about foreign policy that gives you any credibility to judge Obama's knowledge???
Living in Fantasy Land doesn't count.
ani-
Which Neocon are you for, McCain or Hillary?
After reading your reactionary (almost desperate sounding) comments for a year I have to ask-
Are you somehow personally gaining from the ruination of our country, because many of us are not...
I am not running for President, but I am voting, and I want my candidate to be a little more experienced then a Jr Senator that has missed more votes then he has cast. I was worried about the Democrats reclaiming the W H until Uncle Jeremiah came on the scene, and until I read they are trying to get all their "white faces on camera", indicating there is not that many.
You sound crazy.
Are you all right?
Are the white people getting you down?
Great rhetorical question.
ani, watching you shoot yourself in the foot never gets old.
you say you want someone who has cast more votes than he's missed.
so far this year John McCain has missed more than half the votes.
meanwhile Obama has missed less than half the votes. same with Hillary.
"Not as experienced about foreign policy as Hillary"?? Could you please enlighten us what this experience consists of?
Nothing she has done in her career points to experience in foreign policy.
What does her experience entail? Let me point something out which I find troubling. She quoted her, now famous, "visit to the airport under fire" as an example of her foreign experience, and her bravery. In fact, that visit had nothing to do with policy, period. Not my opinion, I was there, and know what it was for and about.
Also, there is a big difference in claiming "experience" like McCain & Hillary do, and demonstrating ability to understand and formulate strategy. A big difference.
I couldn't have said it better, sjoko.
I just wanted to add that visiting an airport under fire--even if it was true--and serving in the military like McCain, DO NOT constitute foreign policy experience.
Neither of those acts have anything to do with formulating policy, dealing with leaders of other countries, weighing diplomatic vs. militaristic solutions, etc.
"...McCain has traveled the world as a Senator."
and yet he seems to think that walking thru downtown baghdad accompanied by armed soldiers and apache helicopters overhead is just like being at the state fair in the midwest.
He also can't (consistently) tell the difference between Sunni and Shia, nor does he have any understanding that the al Qaeda in Iraq is NOT the same as Bin Laden's al Qaeda.
So where is the brave Obama?
He would get the same courtesy.
He is a girly man. The woman has more manliness than he does.
Oh, come on! You know perfectly well if Obama went to Iraq it would be immediately spun to be a 'self-serving, taxpayer-funded campaign photo-op' and an 'unnecessary disruption of the military's valuable time and resources'.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Which is EXACTLY what MOST people thought when McCain went last month!
of course obama could walk in downtown baghdad along with some heavily armed soldiers and air support. but it would only be for the camera op, just like when McCain did it.
but the difference is this: obama sure as hell wouldn't be dumb enough to equate the situation in iraq to a state fair. that's just stupid.
but the difference is this: obama sure as hell wouldn't be dumb enough to equate the situation in iraq to a state fair.
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And I doubt that he would accuse Iran of training al Qaeda or would have needed Joe Leiberman to 'whisper in his ear'.
You are full of it he has been sharing with you, you are just too dumb to listen. I am sure you will tel me you are set in your ways, and i will say if you are good for you but don't say stupid things if you are not willing to hear the truth!