Politics – Democrat Barack Obama lashed out Sunday at rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, mocking her sudden vocal support for gun rights and saying he understands the concerns of working class people. "She knows better. Shame on her. Shame on her," Obama told an audience at a union hall here.
Hillary behind a duck blind; frightening thought.
OBama talking about Hillary being like Annie Oakley; double frightening.
Those two and their penchant for making snide remarks and elitist digressions about middle class America and each other are going to destroy the Democratic party to the point it will be hard to resurrect it.... if at all.
Sometimes I wish that they would just shut up and go to their rooms for a well deserved time out.
Yes it is!
No it's not. This in NOTHING compared to the filth the RepugniCon 527s will spew out in the general election. This is good practice. May the best candidate win.
It's truly a shame that Hillary is as guilty as the repubs with her spinning and twisting Obama's words, because she knows he is trying to run an honest campaign.
He hasn't been able to deal with the issues during this campaign, he has been too busy defending his race, religion, and statements taken out of context.
I understand that they have to do what they feel is RIGHT to win the nomination, but Hillary doesn't have to destroy the Democrat party doing it. By the time she is done, many democrats won't even bother to vote if she is the nominee, simply because of her underhanded, republican style, political strategy.
Granted she is in more attack mode than Obama, but please be real here. He does twist words and he does make misstatments about things he has done just like Clinton.
I watched a news program that went through a speech by each of them and pointed out all the incorrect information they gave about themselves and BOTH were guilty whether by accident or intentionally trying to make themselves look better.
Simple fact is that all politicians are sneaky and will do what they have to, to win.
You can do that about anyone and or thing. Twisting words are easy. I can say I have the sun, and you can call me crazy because who can have the sun? my meaning is I have the sun in my life or in my open hands but you can also point out that I am crazy because I think the sun is mine or that i think i can hold the sun.
You mean Clinton-style, not Republican-style. The Dems invented this kind of character assassination.
As usual, you're talking out of school again. This sort of campaigning goes all the way back to the first Republican, Abraham Lincoln. But it was around since the end of the Washington administration. It it hardly new and was invented before there was a Democratic or Republican party. It was repugnant then, and it still is today.
That's exactly what I am talking about. And Lincoln himself, great orator that he was, never spoke on his own behalf during the campaign. Local party ward-heelers in each town did the speaking. They didn't talk about policies or the issues of they day. They talked about his being born in a log cabin and splitting logs to build rail fences. All true, but things far in his past and having nothing to do with what sort of President he would make.
Dial back to the first Democrat, Thomas Jefferson. His Federalist opponents launched attacks that were, even for that day, unusually ugly.
http://millercenter.org/academic/americanpresid...
The Federalists attacked the fifty-seven-year-old Jefferson as a godless Jacobin who would unleash the forces of bloody terror upon the land. With Jefferson as President, so warned one newspaper, "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest will be openly taught and practiced, the air will be rent with the cries of the distressed, the soil will be soaked with blood, and the nation black with crimes." Others attacked Jefferson's deist beliefs as the views of an infidel who "writes aghast the truths of God's words; who makes not even a profession of Christianity; who is without Sabbaths; without the sanctuary, and without so much as a decent external respect for the faith and worship of Christians."
Ask Sally Hemmings if they were wrong about Jefferson.
As far as I know, Sally Hemmings never said any of the insults quoted above. Yes, Jefferson did love Sally Hemmings. So what? That proves that Jefferson wants "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery, and incest will be open taught and practiced, the air will be rent with the cries of the distressed, the soil will be soaked with blood, and the nation black with crimes."?
I can only interpret your comment shows your seething racism.
Interesting what we can learn about others in this forum. Your choice of handle indicates you support felonious assault against those who don't subscribe to your own political agenda. You favor tax policy that puts power only in the hands of an elite few and of the largest multinational corporations. After catching you in lie after lie, I know you have a very casual disregard for the truth. Now I find you are a racists as well. You're coming pretty close to the definition of a fascist.
LOL
Listen to the Libs talking to each other saying how Hillary is sinking to Republican level. Democrats have to go up a high rise elevator before they can descend to the level of Republicans. The last several years Democrats have taken name calling to a new low. Anybody remember reading on this site things like Nazi, criminal, repugs, etc. And this from the party of compassion, acceptance, and hate crime laws.
"Sometimes I wish that they would just shut up and go to their rooms for a well deserved time out."
Yes, it really hurts their chances of getting elected when they tell people what they think.
Stop it, my sides are hurting. This is absolutely hysterical. A democrat suggesting that the two frontrunners stop talking because everytime they open their mouths, it further hurts the chances of getting elected.
You can't make this stuff up...
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After reiterating his regret for his choice of words, Obama turned the tables on Clinton รข;; mocking, among other things, her sudden fealty to the rights of gun owners.
"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsman, how she values the second amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said, invoking the famed female sharpshooter immortalized in the musical "Anne Get Your Gun."
LMAO! Good for Obama. Hillary has twisted everything he has said, ever since she found out he was an actual threat to what she thought was her entitlement.
video of Obama's above remarks can be found here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo&eurl...
Thanks Tim!
TimALoftis
Your posting a link to Obama's "Damage Control" video.
A staged event to try and control the message.
The ORIGINAL taped remarks (not video) were not meant for public consumption.
Huffington Post has the audio.
Obama is explaining to his campaign workers in San Francisco that the people they will be dealing with in PA are "bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Now if Obam's had said this at a town meeting in PA (not San Francisco) face to face with the lunch pale working class, gun toting, racist bible thumpers.
He would still be in a heap of trouble but at lest some could respect that he made his case face to face.
Disrespecting people behind their back will not win real friends.
And the damage control that this is ONLY about the word "bitter" aint working, no one buying that.
And yes, he is going to have this beat about his head from now till the general election (IF he actually makes it that far.)
Perhaps he should sign up for some "sensitivity training"
...and his wife.
That's funny, I know a lot of voters both Democrat and Republican who ARE bitter about our political system and how it doesn't serve the common people. I'd say Obama was right on the money.
tchef
That's funny, I know a lot of voters both Democrat and Republican who ARE bitter about our political system and how it doesn't serve the common people. I'd say Obama was right on the money.
Are all the folks you know that are "BITTER" clinging to god, guns and are racist?
Or are only the ones that live in small towns clinging to god, guns and are racist?
Bitter does not negate clinging to god, guns and are racist comment.
BTW if any of the "BITTER" folks you know are not clinging to Guns God and are now racist, does that not prove Obama and your self are wrong?
Are you real qualified to psychoanalyze millions of people you have never met?
Is Obama? Don't ya think it a little elitist to think you can?
injest these people are! I worked for a shipping company and I had to visit PA, living in NY I drove, I happen to have a BMW at the time, this became a point of contention I was even warned by some of the people in the meeting to park it and get a rental for the time I was there because people are ******ed that I have a BMW. What he is saying is true. The poster of this story and the rest of you want to say he is a raciest for stating a fact.
I posted the story, but i was not trying to convey that Obama is a racist, in fact just the opposite!
Imjest - Do you think what he said is incorrect. About the American people and Clinton? I don't think he was. We vote for the wrong reasons, I have people from small town USA and they do think the way he said they do. And if we all want to be honest he is CORRECT!
Blackacereturn
"Imjest - Do you think what he said is incorrect. About the American people and Clinton?"
1. Obama was not talking about ALL Americans, his statement was directly focused on Americans who live in small towns.
Until Obama "mans up" and deals honestly with his insults to all Americans that live in small towns calling them Gun toting, Bible thumping, Racist for WHATEVER reason he is going to lose.
Blackacereturn
Do you understand the background on this story?
He was instructing HIS campaign workers in San Francisco what they will be faced with and who the people are in SMALL TOWNS, how they think what they believe.
But what is most important to really understand this story is that it was NEVER INTENDED TO BE BROADCAST.
You, I and the rest of the world were NEVER INTENDED to here this.
Kinda like being a fly on the wall in some management meeting as they decide how to bamboozle their stupid customers.
You are foolish. The people from small towns have been religious, had guns, have been angry about illegal aliens and haven't liked the trade issues for a very long time, some of the items all their lives. It is a very deep insult to those people to say they cling to those things because they are bitter. If you think that then you are very foolish. Why do you think he lost 20 points in PA?
But they are bitter. If they were vested in the American as they would like to they would not cling to most of the things they cling to.
Barack Housein Obama does a good enough job of twisting his own words.
It was amusing to hear him twist and squirm but not take anything back. He attacks Clinton for talking about guns when that is a big issue with the people voting soon. He is shooting himself in his foot.
They ALL twist each others words. Unfortunatly it is part of running for office. And they ALL throw each other under the bus when a questionable comment gets said.
The reality is that if Clinton had said the whole comment about people being "Bitter" that he would do the same thing that she is right now and the same for Mccain. Obama and Clinton would have latched onto it had Mccain said it.
Let's not act like one is better than the other in this respect because they all twist words to suit them.
They didn't have to twist Obama's words. He screwed up and did it himself.
"... her entitlement" -
I hope we never lose sight of the original expectation - the idea of her uncontested coronation - or how far the dark horse has come in just a few short moves.
FTA
"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said, invoking the famed female sharpshooter immortalized in the musical "Annie Get Your Gun."
He continued: "Hillary Clinton is out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter. Come on, she knows better. That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."
A six-shooter? WTF is he talking about? Does he think people hunt ducks with a six-shooter hand gun? Or does he think a Streetsweeper (which is outlawed in the USA) is used to hunt ducks?
That was my reaction to the six-shooter comment! LOL someone needs to do some research before they write his lines!
Both of you guys are way off base. She was listing a number of her experiences shooting guns including target shooting in Scranton, and duck hunting in Arkansas. He was pointing out how she seems to be claiming that she's spending all this time with guns.
tchef
"He (that would be Obama, yes?) was pointing out how she seems to be claiming that she's spending all this time with guns."
Learn to read dude.
He (that would be Obama) continued: "Hillary Clinton is out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter. Come on, she knows better. That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."
Apparently Obama think ducks are hunted with six-shooter hand guns or Streetsweeper type shotguns.