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Republicans are no longer underdogs in the race for the White House. To pull that off, John McCain has attracted disgruntled GOP voters, independents and even some moderate Democrats who shunned his party last fall.

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engineer
April 17, 2008, 8:50 a.m.
Partly thanks to an increasingly likable image, the Republican presidential candidate has pulled even with the two Democrats still brawling for their party's nomination, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo news poll released Thursday. Just five months ago â;; before either party had winnowed its field â;; the survey showed people preferred sending an unnamed Democrat over a Republican to the White House by 13 percentage points.

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  engineer
  April 17, 2008, 8:58 a.m.
  This is extremely dangerous!! McCain could win and finish what the present administration started.
  
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    simonsez
    April 17, 2008, 11:59 a.m.
    You're getting worried, Engineer.
    Your candidates feet are getting muddy in the muck.
    
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      CRYMTYPHON
      April 17, 2008, 10:42 p.m.
      getting muddy in the muck, is the very definition of politics.
      
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        cushi
        April 18, 2008, 7:45 a.m.
        Sad, but true! That's why change is so desperately needed!
        
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        CRYMTYPHON
        April 18, 2008, 9:32 a.m.
        I don't that kind of change is possible, unless we require all candidates, reporters, and bloggers to wear lie detectors set to give a strong electric shock whenever the wearer does not tell the truth.
        I faithfully wear one every time I comment.
        Or am I lying?
        
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    GHOSTWHOWALKS
    April 17, 2008, 12:28 p.m.
    And here I was beginning to believe no one would be dumb enough to support an war mongering piece of doggie do. Shows how really ignorant some people are.
    
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      GHOSTWHOWALKS
      April 17, 2008, 6:50 p.m.
      The McManiacs are out in force today. To bad they don't take the time to read the doggie do's voting record and his chummy ties to lobbyist he says he hasn't ever talked top lobbyist. LOL.
      Dumber than stumps. Part of the reason this country is in such dire straits. Guess they support liars, cheats, and scum.
      
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        aniokly
        April 17, 2008, 7:54 p.m.
        I guess you haven't heard about Obama's ties to lobbyists? Plus, Obama, and Hillarry have hundreds of Earmarks for all their special interest groups. You people are a joke. McCain does not have one earmark. None. Democrats are getting squeamish about their frontrunner. Mayor Daley was trying to defend Obama's relationship with that terrorist, William Ayers. He said Ayers is reformed now. No he isn't. Recently he was quoted as saying he wished they had blown up more buildings. He was never sent to jail, because of a technacality.
        
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        mesodude
        April 18, 2008, 1:23 a.m.
        " Democrats are getting squeamish about their frontrunner."
        --Well, no but you conjobs sure are getting desperate for some sleaze you can use to potentially derail either one of these Democratic candidates. LOL
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:02 a.m.
        ANIOKLY:
        "I guess you haven't heard about Obama's ties to lobbyists"
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/...
        "While McCain may relish attacking lobbyists, top officials of his campaign -- including Rick Davis, his campaign manager, and Charlie Black, his chief political adviser -- are themselves well-known lobbyists with long client lists.
        McCain had written two letters to the FEC on the sale of a Pittsburgh television station to Paxson Communications. Before the first letter, McCain had flown to campaign events on Paxson's corporate jet 4 times and had received $20,000 in donations from Paxson. The second letter came after the jet ferried him to a Florida fundraiser on a yacht in West Palm Beach.
        McCain's campaign denied he had met Lowell "Bud" Paxson. But Paxson told the Post he had met with McCain. Newsweek also reported that McCain himself acknowledged in a 2002 deposition that he had met with Paxson."
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:05 a.m.
        ANIOKLY:
        "Plus, Obama, and Hillarry have hundreds of Earmarks for all their special interest groups."
        It's funny hearing Bush-supporters accusing Democrats of pork spending when Republicans' records are so much worse.
        The Clinton admin averaged only $11.8 billion in earmarks. The Bush admin with the Republican-controlled 109th Congress averaged OVER DOUBLE this at $23.4 billion. The current Democratic-controlled 110th Congress has reduced Bush's average almost by half to a more reasonable $13.2 billion.
        http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=re...
        CLINTON:
        1993: $6.6 billion
        1994: $7.8 billion
        1995: $10 billion
        1996: $12.5 billion
        1997: $14.5 billion
        1998: $13.2 billion
        1999: $12 billion
        2000: $17.7 billion
        BUSH & Republican-controlled 109th Congress
        2001: $18.5 billion
        2002: $20.1 billion
        2003: $22.5 billion
        2004: $22.9 billion
        2005: $27.3 billion
        2006: $29.0 billion
        Democrat-controlled 110th Congress
        2007: $13.2 billion
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:11 a.m.
        ANIOKLY:
        "Democrats are getting squeamish about their frontrunner."
        So squeamish that Democrats are donating to Obama's campaign coffers at RECORD LEVELS and setting RECORD VOTER TURNOUTS.
        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070...
        "Barack Obama will likely overwhelm John McCain in campaign spending in what would be the first time in four decades a Democrat will enjoy such an advantage. Obama has amassed $234 million -- three times more than McCain has raised. That puts Obama on the verge of shattering the fundraising mark set by President George W. Bush in 2004."
        There's nothing funnier than watching neocons like ANIOKLY reverse course on McCain. Just a few months ago, these very same neocons were spewing bile at McCain in favor of Romney, Thompson and Giuliani.
        It's fitting that flipfloppers are supporting the flipflopping candidate. ANIOKLY was against McCain before she was for McCain.
        Pathetic.
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:18 a.m.
        http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/01/18/...
        The fact that McCain had made the tasteless joke was reported in major newspapers, as was the vain attempt by his press secretary to initially deny what McCain had done. But in several major newspapers, the joke itself was kept a secret. McCain subsequently apologized.
        ANIOKLY: "What makes you think McCain is such a "nice guy?" That joke was in all the rabid right wing papers, and magazines I read, and they denounced him. I wasn't on line at the time. Candidates say what they think the people they are with want to hear."
        http://politics.propeller.com/story/2007/04/12/...
        ANIOKLY: "Oh Please. McCain will be 72 years old soon. Plus he is on the wrong side of the Immigration issue."
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:27 a.m.
        http://newsquake.netscape.com/tag/propeller/
        ANIOKLY: "I believe most of the values voters will accept Rudy, warts and all. He is the best qualified, an administrator, not a legislator."
        http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/02/03/...
        ANIOKLY: "What will stop McCain is his past stand on Amnesty. He is losing California, his home state of Arizona, and probably Texas. That is enough to put his nomination in jeopardy. God forbid Hillary has to run against a scandal free opponent. Woohoo!!"
        http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/30/...
        ANIOKLY: "McCain is old. He needs a young Vice President. He is not going to get the Romney supporters after he drops out, but he might could pick up Giulianis if they cut a deal."
        
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        ybdogsct
        April 18, 2008, 2:30 a.m.
        http://202.108.100.164:8080/gate/big5/politics....
        ANIOKLY: "McCain is also having a difficult time in Arizona. If he loses Arizona, his home state, and California he will lose all the border states. He should not have been so arrogant after a couple little wins. It helps his opponents to have Mark Levin, and Rush ucovering factors in McCains background, but someone has to do it, and it won't be the MSM."
        
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      blablabla
      April 17, 2008, 9:43 p.m.
      Ghost, McCain found new support from communists... They were jealous when Bush ran up deficits and tripled the size of government and pi**ed on the constitution, so they quit the communist party and joined the GOP to get in on the action.
      
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      mesodude
      April 17, 2008, 10:48 p.m.
      The trouble I have with this poll is that it's basically a likeability factor survey. We find out how people feel about certain issues but we don't find out what they know about where candidates stand on the issues. A more substantive poll would have questions like: "Knowing that ultra wealthy Senator John McCain who owns many homes with his multi-millionaire wife and receives tax payer funded healthcare and other benefits (aka socialism) has repeatedly voted against increasing vet benefits and providing health insurance for 10 million innocent American children, are you more likely to vote for him in November or would those vets and children be better off if a Democrat like Hillary or Obama were elected (since they've promised to insure all Americans and increase vet benefits)"? Something like that... ;-x
      
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    Endoscopy
    April 17, 2008, 8:06 p.m.
    engineer
    Sounds great to me. We need to finish instead of the Democrat white flag Harry leading the charge with either Democrat going along.
    
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      mesodude
      April 19, 2008, 11:19 a.m.
      I guess it's a good thing "stay the corpse" Chimp didn't cut and run from Afghanistan. Boy, we're sure doin a bang up job there, ain't we conjobbers? ;-P
      
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  mesodude
  April 17, 2008, 10:22 p.m.
  LOL...I wouldn't panic just yet, engineer. I love this poll... Of freaking COURSE McCain would start looking better to terrified flip-flopping cons once he became the nominee. Their dreams of a Huckleberry, Randy Rudy or Moneybags Mitt Presidency all dashed to hell by the time the later polls were taken. They know they had *better* start sucking it up and "liking" him--cause it's take him or leave him. How could he NOT look good?
  Similarly, with only Hillary and Obama left to duke it out, of COURSE their spats will take center stage (CNN was already doing a 24/7 chronology of Hillary's cackle) and they will lose some points with the public. This ain't rocket science.
  
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    lovemylibs
    April 18, 2008, 12:09 a.m.
    Yes you are correct. The media is the only reason Obama and Hillary are losing points. It has nothing to do with their pettiness, ineptitude or bickering. Really. The public clings to the media's every word.
    
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      mesodude
      April 18, 2008, 12:35 a.m.
      "Yes you are correct. The media is the only reason Obama and Hillary are losing points."
      --Get a grip. I am not slamming the so-called "liberal media" as much as I'm pointing out the fact that the reason they may have dropped in the polls is that the field has narrowed and they are under the microscope to a much greater extent. It's all Hillary and Obama ALL the time. They're down in the polls because people have been talking about them for the last TWO years.
      They ARE the Presidential race at the moment and their "bickering" (which you conjobs would simply refer to as politics if Republicans were doing it) is getting a closer look than it would have it Giuliani, Hucklebee, et al were still on the canvas trying to out family value the next candidate. Stop trying to spin. You'll hurt yourself.
      
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      crespi
      April 18, 2008, 12:38 a.m.
      Not sarcasm at all. But TRUE.
      Very good, lml.
      
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    JoseMadre
    April 18, 2008, 12:52 a.m.
    "Their dreams of a Huckleberry, Randy Rudy or Moneybags Mitt Presidency"
    lol McCain is far more conservative than any of them, including the newly converted Mitt.
    
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      cushi
      April 18, 2008, 8:11 a.m.
      And far more corrupt, I might add!
      
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      mesodude
      April 18, 2008, 10:41 a.m.
      "lol McCain is far more conservative than any of them, including the newly converted Mitt."
      Urm... Really? Is that why McCain was practically booed off the stage when ultra right wing cons realized he was going to be the nominee? Did you actually read the story (hint: look at the title)? It implies that McCain "won them back" when in actuality what the polls show is that once he became the nominee, bitter (oh wait...I shouldn't say "bitter"-it might sound "elitist") and confused wingers realized that the bottom of the barrel was what they had to live with and decided to suck it up.
      
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jordan11
April 17, 2008, 8:58 a.m.
I hope the fools do elect McCain. Nothing like hitting bottom to slap ya upside the head and force you to open your eyes.

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  BB64
  April 17, 2008, 6:54 p.m.
  It certainly happened to the DNC, so why shouldn't it be the same for us?
  
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    cushi
    April 18, 2008, 8:12 a.m.
    Their worst is better than your best!
    
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  JoseMadre
  April 17, 2008, 7:38 p.m.
  electing a war hero who is against earmarks is not hitting bottom. Hitting bottom would be electing someone like Obama who's chummy with a domestic terrorist.
  
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    AtheismIsReality
    April 17, 2008, 8:04 p.m.
    You live in a country that was started by domestic terrorists.
    
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      Endoscopy
      April 17, 2008, 8:08 p.m.
      Wrong. They stood up and fought for principles. Something you wouldn't understand apparently. Read an unbiased history book. They are hard to come by these days.
      
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        AtheismIsReality
        April 17, 2008, 8:55 p.m.
        "Terrorists" don't fight for principles?
        You're claiming Ayers did what he did for the fun of it?
        Laughable.
        
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        aniokly
        April 17, 2008, 10:07 p.m.
        Ayers did what he did, because he was a hopped up Hippie, with a hopped up Hippie girlfriend who took the fall for him, and spent prison time. No technicality for her.Don't try to tell me about their principles, they had none. I watched those grimy little slimeballs hold their anti-American parades. They were dirty, nasty little people. Come to think of it they haven't evolved well over the years.
        
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        AtheismIsReality
        April 17, 2008, 10:19 p.m.
        LOL
        I'll take a lecture from Cons about principles as soon as they hold the Idiot-in-Chief accountable for making the US a criminal nation.
        In fact, I'll take a lecture from Cons about associations when they hold the Idiot-in-Chief accountable for not only associating with, but propping up a government that is friendly with Iran. Iran is allegedly killing Americans NOW. Why are we associating with the Iraqi government who is friendly with a nation that is killing Americans now?
        Where are the PRINCIPLES?
        
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    mesodude
    April 17, 2008, 10:55 p.m.
    "Hitting bottom would be electing someone like Obama who's chummy with a domestic terrorist."
    You mean domestic terrorists like Karl Rove and Scooter Libby who blew the cover of, endangered and destroyed the career of a CIA agent?
    
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      JoseMadre
      April 18, 2008, 12:54 a.m.
      No, I mean domestic terrorists who actually bombed American soil and killed U.S. citizens.
      
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        mesodude
        April 18, 2008, 1:18 a.m.
        Well having their president lie us into a war which diverts resources which could have prevented a bridge from dropping out from under Americans in MN or saved a thousand Americans from drowning in New Orleans probably would have met their definition of domestic terrorism. But I guess we'll never know. They're DEAD.
        
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        crespi
        April 18, 2008, 1:42 a.m.
        JoseMadre-
        Are you talking about Neocon terrorist and mass murderer Timothy McVeigh again?
        (America WHACKED that mad dog, Turner Diary spouting ultra-con.)
        I don't think Obama knew him...
        : )
        
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    cushi
    April 18, 2008, 8:15 a.m.
    He's not against them except for the democrat sponsored ones. He's a major sleeze
    
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  mesodude
  April 17, 2008, 10:26 p.m.
  I would hope that a 10 Trillion dollar national debt, a bitterly divided and destroyed country and a ruined economy would be bottom enough. ;-(
  
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    CRYMTYPHON
    April 17, 2008, 10:53 p.m.
    Ouch. I wish.
    
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    jordan11
    April 17, 2008, 11:19 p.m.
    One thing I've learned these seven years. Many Americans aren't as smart as I once gave them credit for.
    
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      mesodude
      April 18, 2008, 12:54 a.m.
      I long ago realized that the planet was being overrun by the severely ignorant, the schizoid, the bizarre, and the hopelessly brain-damaged. Not a pretty picture, to be sure. But the defining moment for me was the '04 election outcome. I thought...Holy CRAP, does God HATE America?! When a subhuman creature like Bush gets re-elected, that's when you know that education and intelligent life in America has officially died a gruesome and tragic death and that there's little hope for its resurrection. ;-(
      
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      cushi
      April 18, 2008, 8:16 a.m.
      As I've said repeatedly, Jordan, ignorance is alive, well and at epidemic proportions in the good ole U.S. of A.!
      
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AlphaGnosis
April 17, 2008, 11 a.m.
"Of those who have moved toward McCain, about two-thirds voted for President Bush in 2004 but are now unhappy with him, including many independents who lean Republican. The remaining one-third usually support Democrats but like McCain anyway:
David Mason of Richmond, Va., is typical of the voters McCain has gained since last November, when the 46-year-old personal trainer was undecided. Mason calls himself an independent and voted in 2004 for President Bush, whom he considers a strong leader but a disappointment due to the "no-win situation" in Iraq.
"It's not that I'm that much in favor of McCain, it's the other two are turning me off," Mason said of Clinton and Obama, the senators from New York and Illinois, in explaining his move toward McCain. As for the Republican's experiences as a Vietnam War prisoner and in the Senate, Mason said, "All he's been through is an asset."

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  mesodude
  April 17, 2008, 10:30 p.m.
  "Mason calls himself an independent and voted in 2004 for President Bush, whom he considers a strong leader but a disappointment due to the "no-win situation" in Iraq."
  --And voting for McCain will change that exactly how? Mason sounds VERY poorly educated.
  
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    crespi
    April 18, 2008, 12:42 a.m.
    I wish neocons like Lieberman and Mason would stop misrepresenting themselves as independent.
    It's dishonest.
    
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      JoseMadre
      April 18, 2008, 12:57 a.m.
      Joe Lieberman is a Liberal... actually an old Liberal, meaning one who believes in America First, not America Last. Most people we now call "Liberal" are more properly called "Leftitards."
      
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        mesodude
        April 18, 2008, 1:13 a.m.
        That was deep. ;-x
        
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        crespi
        April 18, 2008, 1:55 a.m.
        You're slipping, Joe.
        Quick! Something more shocking and inflammatory, with "super-spin."
        I just like to get harsh about it for my own amusement, but the general public really IS becoming immune to the old right-wing, hate-pundit style of disruptive anti-discourse, that drives discussion away from consensus or even honest debate.
        Your neologistic insult construction is also outdated.
        Hate grade--- D plus
        (For effort.)
        
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        crespi
        April 18, 2008, 10:44 a.m.
        A neg.
        You're right Alpha, I should have given him an F.
        
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    cushi
    April 18, 2008, 8:21 a.m.
    The fact that he assumes being a prisoner of war qualifies someone as an expert in the political arena and on foreign affairs bespeaks the kind of rampant ignorance that is spreading like wildfire!
    
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AlphaGnosis
April 17, 2008, 11:02 a.m.
"The poll shows that McCain's appeal has grown since November by more than the Democrats' has dwindled. McCain gets about 10 percentage points more now than a generic Republican candidate got last fall; Obama and Clinton get about 5 points less than a nameless Democrat got then.
Underlining McCain's burgeoning popularity, in November about four in 10 considered McCain likeable, decisive, strong and honest while about half do now. Obama is seen as more likeable and stronger now but his numbers for honesty and decisiveness have remained flat, while Clinton's scores for likeability and honesty have dropped slightly.
"You can't trust Hillary and Obama's too young," said Pauline Holsinger, 60, a janitorial worker in Pensacola, Fla., now backing McCain who preferred an unnamed Democrat last fall. "I like him better, he's more knowledgeable about the war" in Iraq."
Daaaang. lol, wow.

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  mesodude
  April 17, 2008, 11:14 p.m.
  ""You can't trust Hillary and Obama's too young," said Pauline Holsinger, 60, a janitorial worker in Pensacola, Fla., now backing McCain who preferred an unnamed Democrat last fall. "I like him better, he's more knowledgeable about the war" in Iraq."
  --Wow... Sounds as if they deliberately polled the most unbelievably stupid and ignorant people they could find. Holsinger was only an adolescent when JFK was elected at 43 (Obama is 46) but I can't believe someone who can't be earning much more than minimum wage (if that) wouldn't know or care that McLame fought tooth and nail to torpedo the minimum wage increase this past fall. OMG. What IS our children learning in school. ;-(
  
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    AlphaGnosis
    April 17, 2008, 11:41 p.m.
    You sound just as elitist as Obama.
    
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      crespi
      April 18, 2008, 12:47 a.m.
      Funny thing to say considering Bush claims he ALONE is "The Decider", and Cheney saying he is unanswerable to American law because he is the "Unitary Executive," is THE MOST ELITIST BEHAVIOR, ELITIST ACTIONS, AND ELITIST POLICIES in the history of the United States Presidency.
      How is Obama an "elitist" again?
      
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      mesodude
      April 18, 2008, 12:56 a.m.
      Don't try to use words you can't define. You'll embarrass yourself. More.
      
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      cushi
      April 18, 2008, 8:25 a.m.
      Jesus started His ministry at age 12! She would've probably said the same thing about Him! Duh!!
      
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  cushi
  April 18, 2008, 8:23 a.m.
  You don't have to be old to be wise, and you don't have to be young to be stupid!
  
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AlphaGnosis
April 17, 2008, 11:05 a.m.
"He's known, he's a veteran," said David Tucker, a retired Air Force technician from Alexandria, La., and Bush voter who was undecided last November but has ruled out Obama and Clinton. "I understand him better."
Most of the Democratic-leaning voters now supporting McCain backed Democrat John Kerry in 2004. They are moderates who disapprove of Bush and the war in Iraq, but find McCain likeable, much more so than they did last November.
"He is more open-minded" than Obama and Clinton, said Darlene Heins, 46, a Democrat from North Brunswick, N.J., who has moved from undecided to backing McCain. "He directly answers questions, which tells me he's listening."
Another Democrat! lol, go McCain, go! :D

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  mntnman444
  April 17, 2008, 11:20 a.m.
  McCain is a vet HATER...he is refusing to support the new GI Bill in congress to help veterans returning from the war he supports.McCain graduated 894th out of 899 in his class at the Naval Academy and crashed 5 planes before being captured.
  His excuse for not supporting vets is that he worries that the GI Bill is such a good deal for vets that they will leave the military to attend college.
  McVet-hater!
  http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/dp-local_m...
  
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    simonsez
    April 17, 2008, 12:03 p.m.
    Our soldiers are well paid and well trained in their specialties, however if they are wounded and have to leave the military, there should be tuition available to pursue an education.
    
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      rdy2rck
      April 17, 2008, 2:51 p.m.
      True simon except with further help I believe.
      
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      CRYMTYPHON
      April 17, 2008, 11 p.m.
      There should be tuition available even when they are not wounded, and have completed their agreed tour.
      The chance to get funding for education is one of the main reasons high school graduates joined.
      The GI bill sent the previous generation to college, to America's benefit.
      We do not dare short-shrift them now. We lose our honor. Also, they know how to hurt us.
      
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        mesodude
        April 18, 2008, 1:12 a.m.
        I think war should be a very last resort but it seems to me that people who are willing to put their lives on the line for their country like that should be treated like royalty when it comes time to collect their benefits. None of this..."oh well...you may not have arms or hearing but you have two toes remaining on your remaining foot, so you don't qualify for disability. Sorry. Thanks for applying" horsecrap they have to go through now.
        
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      mesodude
      April 17, 2008, 11:16 p.m.
      "well paid" would be getting $100,000 per month like the defense contractors they're guarding receive.
      
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    libsRfunny
    April 17, 2008, 1:05 p.m.
    A "vet-hater," yeah, right, He IS a Vet. His son is a vet and just got back from a combat tour. He passed on being freed from a POW camp and end REAL torture being done to him and chose to stay with his men.
    You really are grasping at straws.
    
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      libsRfunny
      April 17, 2008, 1:13 p.m.
      http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/for-mccain-...
      "Jimmy McCain, 19, who returned from Iraq in mid-February, is stationed at Camp Pendleton in California. Jack McCain, 21, is poised to graduate from the Naval Academy and could join the Marines as a second lieutenant.
      "At a time when Democrats are calling for a withdrawal of troops from Iraq, McCain has refused to use his children's experience to strengthen his arguments for keeping the U.S. military in the Middle Eastern country."
      Yeah, he REALLY hates Vets. lol, what a moron!
      
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        JoseMadre
        April 18, 2008, 12:59 a.m.
        Not only are he and his son vets, but his dad and grandfather were both Admirals. I guess when one's standard bearer is likely to be the chum of terrorists and anti-Semites there is no alternative but to try to catch the wind.
        
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      mesodude
      April 18, 2008, 1 a.m.
      Kerry and Murtha are vets, too but the conjob's blind loyalty to those who have served in the military suddenly evaporates when the vet doesn't happen to see things from their point of view, doesn't it? ;-)
      
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      cushi
      April 18, 2008, 8:31 a.m.
      And Judas WAS a disciple! And??
      
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    CRYMTYPHON
    April 17, 2008, 11:12 p.m.
    Why would McCain hate vets? He is a vet.
    But he does not advocate sufficient benefits for soldiers.
    He's rich; they aren't.
    He is saying now that if soldiers are offered college benefits, they will leave when their tours are up.
    He is right, they will; and that is their privilege.
    He is taking advantage of their poverty.
    
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      CRYMTYPHON
      April 17, 2008, 11:13 p.m.
      This was a reply to mntman444.
      The post order is getting scrambled again.
      
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        cushi
        April 18, 2008, 8:32 a.m.
        I noticed that, too! Sucks.
        
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    pc25
    April 19, 2008, 3:05 a.m.
    It was his grandfather John "Slew McCain" who crashed 5 planes
    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/st...
    As a self-confessed military brat, he inevitably chose a navy career. There was no other option for the grandson of John 'Slew' McCain, a man who had commanded aircraft carriers in the Second World War. Slew McCain was so driven that when the navy passed a rule saying only aviators could command a carrier, the old man went to flight school while in his fifties. He crashed five planes before finally getting his wings, and then his carrier. In one Pacific battle, planes under Slew McCain's command sank 49 Japanese ships in a single day.
    
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  cushi
  April 18, 2008, 8:28 a.m.
  Hopefully they will do some research because if they do, they will DEFINITELY change their minds about him!
  Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge can be a mofo!!
  
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