Politics – John McCain is trusted more than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama on key issues.
"Given a choice between McCain and Clinton, 47% trust McCain more while 42% prefer the former First Lady. Given a choice between McCain and Obama on the economy, 46% trust the GOP nominee while 39% opt for the Democratic frontrunner."
Wow, even farther apart in percentage points for McCain and Obama. Interesting.
Yeah, but 47% of voting Americans voted for Bush too. They can't be trusted.
50.7% voted for Bush. Just to set the record straight
Im not shure what election you are talkin bout AK, but regardless, percentages can be so misleading.
Here ... heres the final tally of the popular vote from 2000. (From highest vote getter to lowest vote getter.
Al Gore -- 51,003,926 votes -- 48.4%
G W Bush -- 50,460,110 votes -- 47.9%
Ralph Nader --2,883,105 votes -- 2.7%
Pat Buchanan -- 449,225 votes -- 0.4%
Harry Browne -- 384,516 votes -- 0.4%
Howard Phillips -- 98,022 votes -- 0.1%
John Hagelin -- 83,702 votes -- 0.1%
Other -- 54,652 votes -- 0.1%
Thankfully, we ken all thank Karl Rove for strategically targetin us Christian Conservatives to win enough states in the Electoral College. I mean, we voted for GW by liek 96%!
Course, it IS kinda odd that Rovey is an atheist and stranger still that GW and Dick Cheney openly MOCKED Christian Conservatives once he got in office.
HEY! IT AINT ME SAYING IT!
It's David Kuo .. who explained it all as an insider in his book "Tempting Faith".
I think what I liek most bout those numbers ... it shows that, GW, recognizin the RAZOR thin victory ... chose to recognize the lack of a mandate ... and decided to work TOGETHER with Democrats to build a coalition ... which ultimately knitted our nation together to make us stronger as a poeple.
Oh wait. ...
no offense goopy, it's just these threads are much more coherent when I get your drivel out of the way.
Oh, I understand comPLEEETLY, Rodent!!
When I see YOUR commentary ... I think "Oh oh,, heres Rodent ... hes shurely gointa provide some DEVASTATINGLY effective commentary that positions Neo-Conism and its supporters as bein the salvation of America."
But then ... nuthin!
Actually. Im just kiddin.
Ive never thought that when I see you show up.
Reason 1. Neo-Conism is a patently bizarre political philosophy which is insupportable by any kind of logic.
Reason 2. You typically aint logical. You typically only attempt lame insultes.
But hey! Thats what we Christian Conservatives do!
We Christian Conservatives do lame insults as cover for the hypocrisy of our beliefe system.
I hear ya!
OK goopy, so I'll reply to you, but then it will be back to ignoring you, just want to clear up the reasons for doing so, mmmkay?
first of all, you're mind numbingly boring and repetitive with your schpeel, it gets old, quickly.
second, you try and play some kinda hillbilly schtick that just doesn't fly for me, some folks here may be impressed, but in the real world, it's just lame.
third and finally, ya got nothing I'm interested in, especially your "Christian Conservative" bashing and insults.
no need to reply, done with you
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WOW, who knew???
:D
yep, this is a direct result of the protracted Democratic primary.
We always knew Clinton would lie and say anything to get elected, but now (finally) America is starting to wake up to the fatc Obama is a FRAUD too.
Too bad the Polls are run by Evangelical Christians. =(
Umm humm.......and America intentionally injects the AIDS virus into the black community.
Well you should stop doing that. ; )
FYI: Scott Rasmussen, an Independen... public opinion pollster, is the founder and CEO of Rasmussen Reports. Rasmussen's polls are notable for their use of automated public opinion polling, involving pre-recorded telephone inquiries.
When all else fails blame the poll
Yea, really. Rasmussen is one of the most consistently accurate polls out there.
Lets see, um, the election is 6 months away, and OmegaGnosis is hard at work.
Well, I gotta tell ya. I for one, am not worried about McCain gettin elected and continuing on down the road of the LEAST effective, MOST destructive policies America has known.
NOPE!!
Why do I have such confidence?
Because OmegaGnosis is SOLIDLY behind this fella! Every ding dang tiem, when OmegaGnosis gets behind a candidate ... they are a BUST!!
Obviously, that even includes her undyin support of Goerge W. Bush ... the most BUSTED presdient of all tiem.
Does ANYONE really believe Americans are so gullible and so ignorant as to purposely WANT to elect someone to CONTINUE the same ASTONISHIN FAILURES as what we have seen for the last 7 plus years???!!
No ... I dont believe we are. I hold the voting public in higher esteem than that. I believe the American voters have more PATRIOTISM than that.
Amen.
Everyone knows that automated public opinion polling only tells you what you want to hear. That's why they control the answers. ; )
But really I pulling for everyone who is backing McCain. I fully support your right to be wrong.
I trust McLame.
To further bury this country.
Yes, AlphaG should really give up the ghost. Every single one she has backed has been a complete failure! Yes Goppy Ms. Alpha G has given her unending support to this current failure and chimp in charge - LuvMyPrez. That says it all! I have the utmost confidence that insane McCain will lose - with Alpha's support - he can do nothing else! Give your unending support to McCain - the McCainiacs are out in full force - on Propeller at least!
ALPHA:
"Yea, really. Rasmussen is one of the most consistently accurate polls out there."
Ok, then let's talk polls. Not more than a few days ago, McCain enjoyed a statistically significant lead over Hillary Clinton that was outside many polls' margins of error. McCain also had built a small lead over Obama, although the margin separating them lay within the polls' margin of error.
The latest polls have McCain trailing BOTH Barack Obama AND Hillary Clinton.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Obama: 45.8% McCain: 44.3%
Clinton: 47.7% McCain: 44.2%
Even your own precious Rasmussen poll has Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton LEADING McCain.
Things are not looking good for McCain -- and the Democrats haven't even started running against him yet.
LOL.
And those who know him best won't be voting for McCain.
http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/04/30/why-...
Phillip Butler: "John McCain is a long-time acquaintance of mine at the U.S. Naval Academy and as Prisoners of War in Vietnam. There are a number of reasons why I will not vote for him for President.
Believe me when I say that back then I would never in a million or more years have dreamed that the crazy guy across the hall would someday be a Senator and candidate for President!
John was a wild man. He was intent on breaking every USNA regulation in our 4 inch thick USNA Regulations book. And I believe he must have come as close to his goal as any midshipman who ever attended the Academy.
McCain barely managed to graduate, 5th from the bottom of his 800 man graduating class. I and many others have speculated that the main reason he did graduate was because his father was an Admiral, and also his grandfather."
I never found the Rasmussen poll anything but far right
I can't tell, but I may have pushed the wrong button on this one Onionhead. I meant to give you a positive. Sorry if I did.
Pos, Neg, they're really all the same. Thanks for taking the time to read my original post. =)
How do you define "fraud" exactly and in what ways is McCain more trustworthy and deserving of the Presidency than Hillary or Obama?
To the Right, it seems, the principal requirement is that the candidate sees EVERYTHING in terms of black and white, no shades of gray. In other words the simplistic "for us or against us" rhetoric of Bush & co.
In this, McCain surely fits the bill. Hence, automatically he is more "trustworthy" and "deserving" of the presidency.
But I don't buy it. Far more nuanced leadership is required in these complex times.
I guess I question the value of such a survey when the contest between Hillary and Obama is still in full swing and taking center stage in the electorate's mind. In order for this to be a true apples and oranges comparison, McCain would have to be still competing for the GOP nomination. The only Republican McCain has to compete with now is Bush and so naturally, he's going to seem more appealing--especially to solid Republicans (who only have to decide whether they're going to suck it up and vote for McCain or stay home).
There is no question: Ron Paul or not at all!!!
http://www.dailypaul.com
mccain, obama, clinton = more of the same
real change = RON PAUL!!
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
Yes. We need another con who supports war time tax cuts for the wealthy while fighting to deny health insurance to 10 million American children. Whoo-hoo! Ron's the one. Major improvement. ROTFLMAO
"10 million American children."
you mean 10 million anchor children?
MEXICO SHOULD BE ALLOCATING THEIR FUEL RESERVES TO AMERICA ...SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN ON THEIR POOR, THEIR SICK, AND THEIR SLAVE LABOR FORCE;WHICH HAS TAKEN JOBS FROM AMERICANS.
How many of us on this thread are aware that US corporations and the MEXICAN govt is behind the non enforcement of our immigration laws setting the motion in place for the north american union???
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com
don't blame Ron Paul for representing voting Americans!
At the risk of veering way off topic, even if they were all "anchor babies," unless and until the law says otherwise, they are our fellow US citizens. It sounds like you think it's better to punish the many just so that the few don't get away with anything. Bush and most of the GOP Congress feel the same way but for a different reason: They don't want to be guilty of supporting "socialism" so kids whose parents make "too much" are suffering while our elected officials dig their heels in.
Anyway, it's not as if we're talking about a lot of money to pay for this (in the overall scheme of things). But we will spend billions on useless "abstinence only" programs without blinking an eye. This is why Republicans will lose catastrophically this fall and they TOTALLY deserve to go down in a ball of flames.
Thanks mesodude - without veering too far away off topic as well - they spent 1.3 billion dollars last year on abstinence only programs in schools - wonderful way to flush money down the toilet as well.
"Voters Trust McCain More than Either Democratic Candidate"
Of course they do! He flip-flops so much he spanks both sides of the crack...
The flaccid attempt of Dems to try to paint McCain as another Kerry is really amusing. Keep it up. That kind of rhetoric just helps us on the Right.
McCain is no where near as honorable and heroic as John Kerry, talk about a cheap knockoff!!
Yeah, right. Let's compare. seven years of torture in a prison camp where he was given the chance to leave early but refused vs. 4 months and out with the most serious wound being a piece of rice in the butt.
Keep making that comparison. Every time helps just a little bit more.
okay. lets compare.
kerry:
of the nine men who served on the two swift boats Kerry commanded, seven of them gladly made numerous appearances on Kerry's behalf when he was running for president, one endorsed kerry but wanted nothing to do with the world of politics, and the last man could not be found.
mccain: "Why I Will Not Vote for John McCain"
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_...
by Philip Butler, a long-time acquaintance of McCain that goes way back to their time together at the U.S. Naval Academy and as Prisoners of War in Vietnam.
"The flaccid attempt of Dems to try to paint McCain as another Kerry is really amusing."
So McCain is not a flip-flopping gigolo or it is just alright to vote for one four years later?
"The flaccid attempt of Dems to try to paint McCain as another Kerry is really amusing."
--I'm lovin' conjobs crying jags so much! It must make you feel quite shameful and demoralized to have your own lies, deception, hypocrisy and rationalizations for rejecting Kerry back in '04 thrown back in your face, huh Bobo? I so love to hear lying wingjobs shriek in pain. ;-P
"That kind of rhetoric just helps us on the Right."
--"That kind of rhetoric" is what "helped" you get a colossal failure of a human being another four disastrous years in the White House.
I don't see how anyone could trust someone who's flip-flopped on so many issues. Not to mention someone who traded in his wife and children for a younger woman who's tax returns he's afraid to release.
Voters will always trust the republicans to never put them down in destroying the country methodically and effectively step by step. Why do they do that? Because the average citizen has become an uneducated or partially educated (way worse) mentally retarded puritanical self serving hypocrite.
In the end of the day this is no longer a battle between left and right or conservatives and progressives. It has become a battle between simplistic self serving polarizing thinkers of the past and highly intelligent educated ,well intentioned and idealistic citizens of the future.
Where do you fall in this pile of average citizens you so lovingly described?
Take a calculated scientifically founded and therefore minimally flawed guess...
If i were you i would be interested in finding out why those with advanced-higher education tend to dislike the positions of the republican party in crucial issues. I mean why those most likely to extensively spend their lives solving problems and searching for the truth seem to converge so significantly towards the anti-R position.
Am i elitist? Unless you can prove it with my own actions its wrong to think so. You see what really matters is this simple fact. I will never look someone down for their education or their passion to support a position. There is no practical limit to how much one can erinch oneself so i will always remain unsatisfied with my own education to begin with. But i will definitely look down someone unwilling to learn, unwilling to understand their own thinking limitation when proven methodically so. Arrogant celebration of simplistic thinking is the source of most problems.
Sure they do fella. Is that why McCain trails in most of the polls?
Once again you neoclowns manage to shoot yourselves in the foot by opening your mouths! Aren't you the ones that have so loudly proclaimed far and wide that polls are meaningless and truly don't reflect how the American people feel?
Yes JohnQPublic - they are always proclaiming that! The only polls that are worthwhile to them are those that support their failed candidates.
I can sell you a bridge. I didn't know so many believed in tooth fairies.
lol, that's what I thought when I read the Outraged Obama story.
haha...I know, right? It's almost as hilarious as hearing the "outrage" of poorly educated white descendants of slave owners, segregationists and white supremacists. Only in the mind of a wingjob could white America be victims of oppression by a minority which has always held less power than they have. Just admit you're desperate to hold onto the only thing significant Bush gave you--irresponsible, debt-deepening war time tax cuts. You people crack me up. ROTFLMAO
Sorry AG, finding it difficult to use the words trust and politicians in the same sentence.