Politics – Barack Obama has won the North Carolina presidential primary, but he trails Hillary Rodham Clinton in Indiana. The two states are the last big-delegate prizes left in the long race for the Democratic presidential nomination.
I'm from North Carolina and it doesn't surprise me that he got 90% of the black vote. Most of them are uneducated and living on welfare in the area I'm from, so electing him assures them more government handouts....most wouldn't know anything about any issue, they just want a black man elected...
Wow. Racism is alive and well.
Oh, so you do read what you post....and so when you agree with what Rev. Wright says is true, that's OK and not racism, but when I state the truth about the blacks IN MY AREA that I see everyday, then I'm racist..riiiiight....whatever floats your boat....
Vidboy,
You're not necessarily a racist....but your post has NO credible basis in fact or logic.
Claiming that Obama's support is from uneducated blacks on welfare smacks of stupidity and refutes demographic fact.
Sounds like your opinion comes from an uneducated crank who just wants anyone BUT a black man elected...
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CNN is reporting he has a 2-1 lead over hillary so far. 66% to 32%. Which should pretty much negate any gains she has in Indiana. and give him the overall delegate lead for the day.
I know, but let's see if it holds.
Race is getting closer, though still heavily favoring Obama. CNN now reporting him with a 16% lead in NC with 45% of vote counted, meanwhile Hillary has lost almost all of her lead in Indiana, and with 72% of the vote counted, she is up only 4%.
Obama now at 14%, and Hillary's lead in Indiana is down to only 2% and is so close, nobody is declaring her the winner so far.
Obama lost Indiana by only a handful of votes.
Once again, Clinton's words to Petraeus could be read as advice to her after Tuesday's primaries: "I give you tremendous credit for presenting as positive a view of a rather grim reality. I believe that you â;¦ were dealt a very hard hand. And it's a hand that is unlikely to improve, in my view."
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I will be back home before NOVEMBER 2008 to make CHANGES.
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Lol, good post Miles Away! I agree, it requires a "willing suspension of disbelief" for her to think she's going to win the nomination!
Will the democrat(ic)s disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Minnesota? Will the DNC allow those delegates to be seated or will they simple ignore that the people in those states did vote?
If ALL the votes are counted, it appears Billary will have a popular vote lead while trailing in delegates.
Should this be a brokered convention? Seems there is a chance that the Howard Dean (Waaaaaa) lead democrat(ic) National Committee will disenfranchise the voters of those two states. Obama for unity? For Change? What change? Will he be told by Howard and Soros how to run the oval office? Seems it could happen.
Billary? :)
I like that.
He has won Indi too, they are doing what they did in PA, say she won by 10 points and then a day and a half later they announced that it was 9.3 points. Now we have a county that is said to be for Obams that has refused to send in any of their votes until all the votes are count. The guys on CNN are starting to worry that the fix is in!
Is it just me or are stories about the election being buried on here?
Indi Obama 49% clinton 51% go bama
I'm all for Obama, he really is a better choice as president, considering Clinton and McCain.
But it seems that the democrats have truly hamstrung themselves, yet again. Sure, Obama was clearly going to win in NC, simple demographics will show you that. Are voters going to vote for either a black candidate or a woman candidate?
Blacks make up about 13% of the US, and 40% of dem whites voted for Obama in NC. These aren't really good numbers when you consider the possibility of Obama becoming president.
I'll say I like Obama's words to "look beyond 'electability'" in your andidate, and vote for who you like, unfortunately, this kind of objectivity, perhaps idealism, doesn't translate well into reality.
It would be hard enough getting Clinton into the White House, although women are a near 50% in the US. It will be near impossible to get Obama in office.
With Obama as candidate, McCain will only need a black, woman, or simply charismatic running mate to sew up the race.
Obams took 40% of the whites in NC and 33% in Indi, that's up from 26 in PA. and as much as the talking heads want you to think that whites are not voting for Obama, that is just not true...there is no way this guy could win 31 states without the votes of whites.
I tend to agree with your assessment of Obama's chances. While I too favor Obama over the other two candidates, I think that the Democrats would have a better chance of winning with Clinton. True that Obama has won 31 states but the states that he has won are mostly Republican leaning states that would probably stay with the Republicans in the general election. States that tend to vote Democratic have favored Clinton over Obama. I think that the Democrat's best chance would be an Obama-Clinton/Clinton-Obama ticket but I don't foresee that happening.
I still don't see the logic here--the argument that since Clinton beat Obama in, say, New York, he will lose that state in the general election. There is no way that a Democratic stronghold like New York will back McCain over Obama, and I think that applies to several (although not all) of the delegate-rich states that Clinton has won. It will be a hard fought election, that I agree with, but to call Obama unelectable is to fly in the face of reality.
"There is no way that a Democratic stronghold like New York will back McCain over Obama, and I think that applies to several (although not all) of the delegate-rich states that Clinton has won."
It's the key "swing" states that matter, look at this map:
http://electoral-vote.com/
Now look at Ohio, Clinton BEATS MCCain by 10% but Obama LOOSES to McCain by 1%.
Now read this article:
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/pr...
"Ohio is uncanny for its accuracy in picking presidential winners. From 1904 through 2004, the Ohio victor won the presidency 24 of 26 times. No Republican has won the presidency without carrying Ohio since Abraham Lincoln was elected in 1860."
If you are a TRUE democrat you want Hillary to win.
"If you are a TRUE democrat you want Hillary to win."
Oh Balderdash. You are getting your lines from the GOP. New York will vote for Obama and so will Michigan.
The polls you cite change all the time and are pretty much meaningless at this stage of the game. Clinton can't win the nomination and is showing herself as delusional as bush. In fact, with her support of the gas tax gimmick and her SUFFERING SUCCOTASH LET"S OBLITERATE IRAN remark, showing herself more like McCain. She is too much like McCain to win. We need a clear difference. And that difference is Obama.
I see you've been drinking the Obama kool-aid. Obama isn't going to "Change" anything, his plans almost mirror Hillarys. His a politician that uses people (Wright) just like anybody else. He's from CHICAGO, name me the last clean politician from my city, PLEASE.
He can't win the kew swing states and the polls, stats and primaries all show it.
You can deny it all you want but it is the truth.
You might want to see someone about your delusions that you are some kind of prophet and keeper of eternal truth.
Wow, way to refute my argument....
Care to provide anything factual that proves Obama can win any of those "swing" states?
Or even Ohio?
Quote your polls all you want Newbie, but remember things don't always happen as the polls say they will. Last night was a perfect example of that.
With such a compelling counter argument I don't know what to say jovial....
Just shutting you piehole will suffice. ;)
ditto?
Why should I refute anyone who thinks they can predict the future? That's not rational. Why bother?
Try this if you have a sense of humor:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/olberm...
EITHER Obama OR Clinton have a greater probability of changing things than does Bush III (McCain).
The people will not put up with a third term of Bush policies.
Of course, I don't understand why the people chose a second term of Bush policies - oh wait - the PEOPLE didn't.
oh please... get over yourself
Come on, newbie, the polls also predicted that Obama would win in New Hampshire. They're not exactly rocket science. And even if McCain is currently "beating" Obama by a single percentage point in Ohio, that means a statistical dead heat, not a McCain victory. I don't believe that Obama is a plaster saint--obviously he's got some hurdles to clear on the way to the White House. But in a country where 81 percent of the electorate thinks that the current Republican administration is messing up, McCain's got some problems too. And Hillary? Like it or not, she looks down for the count.
Balderdash,I always like that word
Newbi04020:
Your deep concern for the democrats, wanting them to make the best decision possible, is as touching as it is sincere.
I think we will go with Obama anyway.
"Your deep concern for the democrats, wanting them to make the best decision possible, is as touching as it is sincere."
At least you admit it is the best decision possible for the party.
I didn't mean to imply that Obama would lose the normally Democratic state, only that his wins in the primaries have come from normally Republican states and he would not win those states in the general election. So touting his 31 state victories rings somewhat hollow under those circumstances. And his wins have come with the considerable help of a huge African American majority vote which have come from those mostly Republican strength states. That vote will not help him as much in the general election. The Republican constituency will not be inclined to vote for Obama as much as say a segment of the female contingent of this constituency 'may' be inclined to vote for Clinton. This is my 'objective' take on what may happen even tho I intend to vote for Obama as I think he would be the Democratic candidate.
You are acting as if the DEM's that voted for Hill will not vote for Obama or the dems that voted for Obama will not vote for Hill. Like they will go hill is not here so i cm voting for McCain. I am sorry but i disagree with you and frankley your argument holds no water. This is the Demacratic primary, not the national election DEM's will galvinize behind whom ever our Nomonee is.
No, that is not what I am implying. What I was alluding to is that Obama's wins in the 31 states is illusory because they came mostly from normally Republican states that he will in all probability not win in the general election. Clinton's wins have come from strong blue collar support in the normally Democratic states and I fear that this constituency may not be as solidly behind Obama as the Republicans in the normally Republican states will be for McCain. I hope I'm wrong and you all are right.
There are plenty of people who would vote for my dog over McCain, and he's black too and not even human. I think the choice of running mate is pretty much insignificant to the majority of voters, and only serves to pull in a small number of voters to any ticket. The vp is a pretty powerless office in itself, unless the office holder is empowered by the president. Originally our vp's were the runners-up in the presidential elections, and considering the one we have now we could go back to that system and be just fine.
I would need to know a lot more about your dog.
Does he wear a flag lapel pin?
Can he get the cat vote?
Is he too old to learn any new tricks?
He wears a r/w/b collar, does that help? He doesn't care about anyone's race, religion, or ethnicity, but will not abide rodents of any sort. Guess that sorta does in all my political ambitions for him, huh? LOL
If he doesn't like rodents, how can you expect him to get along with congress?
When "dog" is home, cat are not dancing around "the house". LOL...
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