Politics – A collection of shockingly sad conservative responses to Barack Obama and his position.
I always assume that my money is better left with me than sent to the government in any amount. But that's just me. lol
So, Wolfie, why do you so STRONGLY support the LARGEST grabber of your income tax dollars - the Military?
Perhaps because that is one of the few govenment agencies/departments specified in the Constitution? Just a guess though
$30 in oil tax breaks isn`t a drop in the bucket of the waste in the Pentagon.
That`s not a guess.
You want to take control of your money, stop letting the Republicans waste it on BS wars for cronies profits while they leave our borders and ports open.
We already pay for universal health and universal eduction, we just dont get them because the govt wastes such a vast sum on counter-productive empire-building expansionist dreams of the right-wing.
The rich guy goes to the Virgin Islands and ridicules a cut for the common people.
When you have a minivan with a 22 gallon tank and haul around a bunch of kids it adds up fast.
My S-10 doesn't take much gas though.
I like how Hillary and McCain think people are really ganna be able to do something extra with 18c a gallon gas tax.. Think about it people. 18cents and the average american driver goes through something like 20 gallons of gas every 1-2 weeks.
That amounts to $3.60 cents every 1-2 weeks(lets call it one just to show that even the high end figure is pathetic). Now add that for all of summer(3 months, 12 weeks,) and we come to $43.20
Tell me now, just how is $43 bucks and change going to change your summer or make things easier? It won't even amount to the cost of 1 weeks worth of gas use.. barely will pay for 2-3 people to go to a movie and eat popcorn.. And would barely cover a Fast food dinner for a family of 5...
And McCain or Hillary are talking about it like it will mean American's can go on a vacation! ha, to what? One ticket to disneyland if you already live within a few miles of it and can get to it using $3.00 in gas? It won't even cover the cost of a nite at a motel 6...
People go through more than 20 gallons of gas on long trips made during the summertime. Nice try, but no go.
In your elitist, socialist zeal, you seem to forget it isn't the gov't's money. It is money earned by workers. The less of it the gov't keeps, the better off we all are. Socialists never will understand it.
The gas tax is for repair and construction of the highway system.
Last I heard, airplanes rarely use the highways.
Gas taxes go into a general fund, which then gets parceled out across the board.
"libsRfunny"
Nothing is more 'funny' than your ignorance. BTW do you still believe in St. Claus or in NATIONAL Gallup Poll? I think you like Gallup Poll. All yours comments are based
on it or one time every four yeasr on St. Claus (beginning in November).
"Clearly, you are out of steam and out of context. The world is full of people with opinions other than yours. You don't like the latest NATIONAL Gallup Poll? Too friggin' bad. Grow up..." That is what you wrote to me about Mrs Clinton Gallup Poll over Obama's nomination...
Ha,ha,ha! YOU WAS RIGHT. Obama lost Indiana by only a handful of votes.
Once again, Clinton's words to Petraeus could be read as advice to her after Tuesday's primaries: "I give you tremendous credit for presenting as positive a view of a rather grim reality. I believe that you were dealt a very hard hand. And it's a hand that is unlikely to improve, in my view."
From China to Obama - GOOOOO OOOBBBAAAMMMAAA!!!
If $30 is enough to buy your vote (especially while the same clowns are stealing thousands out of your wallet), then keep allowing yourself to be made a fool of.
But I can see right through this political BS. It is a cheap attempt to buy the votes of the intellectually weak.
> and ridicules a cut for the common people.
There is no cut! Obama has the experience. The oil companies pocketed the difference, so the consumer/taxpayer got screwed twice. Once because they spent even more for gas since the gas companies raised the price. And second because they later had to pay higher taxes to make up for the lost revenues that went into the oil company pockets.
There is no cut!
Why on earth anybody even gives this crapp the time of day is beyond me. Are you really that gullible? Seriously?
The math I do puts the savings at $10-12/month. Doesn't seem to me that this is earth-shattering for a normal family.
But the devil is in the details: does it apply to commercial vehicles?; to all purchases of diesel and or aviation fuel? If the answer to these is yes, savings will be several times higher. Our fuel consumption doesn't just consist of our personal use, but includes all that we use to get our stuff to us. Also, a number of companies have taken to adding "fuel surcharges" to their prices. These are generally price hikes in disguise and often far exceed the additional fuel costs they incur.
We are a nation almost obsessed with symbols. From that standpoint alone, it seems to me that a tax holiday would be a plus.
Has anyone seen numbers for what a summer fuel tax holiday would be on an annual basis? IMHO, being sort of continuous it would be more effective than a one-time shot of equal value.
As much as I would like some relief from the high gas prices, this holiday gas tax cut is just tossing crumbs to the hungry. We need a permanent gas price relief, like weaning ourselves off fossil fuels. Our infrastucture on the highways are getting old and in need of repairs and replacing. And the gas tax is supposed to finance this. So how are we going to do this? Are we supposed to just postpone this also, until disaster stikes, and then we'll have to do the necessary repairs and borrow to do it? Aren't we doing this now under Bush? And hasn't it been working just swell? A change is needed and the same old solutions, which are only dirty bandaids, aren't the answer.
Yeah, it's a short-term answer to a long-term problem; just the way one is taught not to do it in B school. It works fine if YOUR road or intersection is not one of those that won't get done because of lack of federal matching funding. We can all chip in nickels and dimes for privatized road funding.
Unfortuanately, we're exercising one option now--not worrying in the least how to pay for it. GWB and Co., guided by past policy, has dusted off plain old deficit spending and painted it with Repub-sounding words. It never was a good idea (see Bush I & "voodoo economics"), and it hasn't gotten better with age.
I view the sybolism of a tax holiday as a plus; but you're right, a long-term solution is needed. The problem is that there's a price for anything one does, and nobody--even now--appears ready to pay anything. Not that any of them are blame-free, but it's far easier to blame the oil companies or the other major political party.
I happen to be one of those people where $30 DOES mean the difference between whether or not we buy milk and bread so this would make a difference in my life (not enough to take a vacation).
That being said....according to Obama (and most economist) the tax holiday isn't going to have a big result and will, in fact, have a big negative and here's why
1) the tax is used to road and bridge building and repair which is done (primarily) in the summer because of weather. NOT having that money would mean that construction working would be out of work because the money wasn't available - PROBLEM: There is NO way that the money being COLLECTED in the summer tax is going to be used to pay for work during the summer season since there is no way of saying how much money would be collected and therefore how much could be spent. Assuming that little construction is done the rest of the year (because of weather) then the money is sitting (some place) waiting to be spent.
"NOT having that money would mean that construction working would be out of work because the money wasn't available..."
Wrong. The road funding already is in place. If you think every cent of gas tax goes into road and bridge building, I have some swamp land in Florida I want to sell you.
Before you REALLY show your COMPLETE stupidity (not to mention your lack of reading skills) you may want to read the WHOLE post since my VERY NEXT SENTENCE was...
"PROBLEM: There is NO way that the money being COLLECTED in the summer tax is going to be used to pay for work during the summer season since there is no way of saying how much money would be collected and therefore how much could be spent. Assuming that little construction is done the rest of the year (because of weather) then the money is sitting (some place) waiting to be spent."
IF you had read the WHOLE post (and assuming your comprehension is a least AVERAGE) you would realize that I was DEBUNKING one of the reasons being used to REJECT the gas tax holiday.
(cont) Although McCain has NO replacement plan (for these funds) Clinton is suggesting a windfall profits tax on the oil companies. Again there is no way that those money would be available to 'fund' any summer construction (since even if you implemented it TODAY you would be lucky to see a cent before November-look at the 'stimulus' checks).
2)IF you make the oil companies pay the tax, they are just going to turn around and raise the price of gas to cover the expense. And again, since they DON'T know how much they are going to be charged they are going to make SURE NOTHING comes out of their pocket so they will surely CHARGE more then they are likely to be charged thus INCREASING their profits even more.
3)IF people use this opportunity to take a vacation thus buying more gas thus increasing the demand does that not do the OPPOSITE in our desire to reduce our dependence on foreign oil?
Didn't we already try a windfall profits tax on the oil companies once?
Was it a success?
The Congressional Research Service (CRS): the 1980s windfall profits tax depressed the domestic production and extraction industry and furthered our dependence on foreign sources of oil.
Today, U.S. consumers pay an average of 45.9 cents per gallon in gasoline taxes. The federal gasoline excise tax is 18.4 cents per gallon while the average state and local tax is 27.5 cents
You can see what your state gas tax is here:
You gotta be kidding me.
You are for the pathetic political point grab which will cost us the consumer/taxpayer dearly, but against the windfall profit tax on the war profiteers. Oh lawdy, these people need your help!!!
First of all, as Obama, the guy with the experience has stated factually, the oil companies will NOT give you the break on the gas price. They WILL raise the price of the gas to near the level of the price WITH the current taxes. Read, no or net gain to consumer. However, the budgets are set and moneys will be spent, so we will have to make up for those taxes with borrowing (Republicans are pros at this). Hence, you get %#%% on the front end, and you get #$%& on the back end. Gimme a break, I am not stupid enough to fall for this blatant trick to buy a couple of votes. Its pathetic.
The last few Republican admins, and the Bush admin in particular, have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that govt income has zero correlation to expenditures.
On the other side, the windfall profits tax side.
The `Greatest Generation of All` used a 90% windfall profits tax in WWII to pay for the war and NOT shirk their debt and responsibility onto their children and grandchildren.
Do you love your children and grandchildren (if you have them)? Can you look them in the eye and tell them my cable TV is more important than you prospering off your own labors.
In addition to the fact that a gas tax holiday would do next to nothing to resuscitate an economy that is headed for a vegetative state I find it insulting that politicians in general think that my vote can be purchased for between 30 and 40 bucks. I'm not saying I can't be bought (or rented), just that my asking price is significantly higher.
Oh, Disraeli, btw, you`ll be lucky to see a third of that $30 or $40 because the oil companies fully intend to pocket most of the difference as experience has shown many times and Obama has explained.
On the other hand, your taxes will go up that full $30 or $40 to make up for the lost revenues. Don`t forget you`ll have to pay interest on that $30 or $40 too.
I wonder how many children`s sutures $30 would buy. Oh wait, McCain voted with Bush against children`s health care, so I guess the children get screwed twice.
Once because the current power elite like Bush and McCain are screwing them with subpar healthcare and subpar education. And then a second time because the power elite are sticking the children with the bill for all the corruption and waste that the power elite caused and benefited from.
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They all own oil company stocks and are angry because they saw the repeal of the gas tax as a chance to make more money when the oil companies make more money by raising prices, as they did here in illinois
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Oil company stock is not that great. They made their 10% this last year for the first time in several years.
I hear their commercial every day on the radio telling us how all of us who own mutual funds are getting those profits because we own a stake in the oil companies.
Stock price now includes anticipated future profits/earnings.
That 10% was in addition to what they had already anticipated gouging the consumer for.
YOU referring to Al Gore? His family is chest-deep in oil.
$30 buys a good amount of groceries.
Not in this market it doesn't. Not to mention that this area,(Washington DC, Virginia, and Maryland) all have much needed transportation projects that they can't fund now. Take that tax away and you will have even more of a deficit.
$30 not only buys a small amount of groceries, if about 100,000 of us take our $30 tax break and combine it, that will probably start to cover the amount in tax breaks that the Bush family shirked onto the middle class worker with their tax entitlement break for the rich scheme.