Politics – "Iran: The Next War" --detailed shady activities of numerous neocons inside and out of US Government to plan attack on Iran. Virtually identical deceit from this same group lied americans into Iraq war. They're as transparent as dishonest and bloodthirsty and are desperately trying to lie americans into an Iran war before Bush departs.
Israel has survived in spite of the enemies who seek to destroy this legally created state. the Jewish occupants have a history of being there for thousands of years long before there would be the present conflict. It is the only democracy in the Middle East and has done miracles with the land it has. It created farms and greenery out of the Negev desert, it has some of the finest educational and research institutions in the world. Yet its neighbors wish to destroy it from nonprogressive misguided hate. Israel's enemies only hurt themselves in the long run by letting their hate overcome common sense. as Golda Meir said, 'When they love their children more than they hate Israel, there will be peace. Also, "If the Arabs lay down their guns there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their guns, there will be a lot of dead Israelis
1. The creation of Israel violated the UN charter and was only achieved by threats and corruption. Zionist corruption in the US that led to threats and buying of votes of our latin american starapies. The terms of the partition were violated before, during and after the vote on partition. The partition should be declared null and void by the UN.
2. At the time the zionists started their ideology of the "master race", "living space" and genocide for "subhumans" in eastern europe (the 1880s), the jewish population in palestine was about 40,000 and vastly outnumbered by other groups, many of whom were descendents of those already in palestine when the jews invaded for the first time.
3. Israel has NEVER been a democracy. It has always been racist and discriminated in favor of a minority ethnic group (even today only 35% of palestinians are jewish).
4. Long before zionists arrived in palestine it was famous for agricultural poroduce, especially fruit, even strawberries. Zionist "success in farming" is largely based on theft of land and water from palestinians.
5. Zionist ideology is closely related to nazi ideology, sharing ideas of "master race", "subhumans", "living space for the master race" and "ethnic cleansing or genocide for subhumans". This is why zionists collaborated so closely with the nazis (even killing jews to pursue their racism).
51 Documents:
Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner1223.html
This is one of the main reasons why knowledgable, moral jews detest zionists.
Nazi-Zionist Collaboration: The Kastner case
Religion â;; I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/01/...
Hannah Arendt on Nazi-Zionist Collaboration
Religion â;; To a Jew this role of the Jewish leaders in the destruction of their own people is undoubtedly the darkest chapter of the whole dark story.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/01/...
Having helped kill european jews who did not want to be part of the zionist madness, the zionists then went on to kill mideastern jews who also refused.
THE JEWS OF IRAQ - TESTIMONY OF A FORMER ZIONIST
..Naeim Giladi, an Iraqi Jew and a former Zionist is the author of "Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews".
In his book, Ben Gurion's Scandals, Mr. Giladi discusses the crimes committed by Zionists in their frenzy to import raw Jewish labor. Newly-vacated farmlands had to be plowed to provide food for the immigrants and the military ranks had to be filled with conscripts to defend the illegitimately repossesed lands.....
Naeim Giladi: "I write this article for the same reason I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors. I write about what the first Prime Minister of Israel called 'cruel Zionism'. I write about it because I was part of it."
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/jewsofiraq.htm
During the Al-Aqsa intifada we have witnessed an evolving phenomenon of the exploitation of teenagers and children by various terrorist organizations in order to perpetrate terrorist attacks, among them suicide attacks against Israeli civilian and military targets. Children and teenagers between the ages of 11 and 18 have over the past few months carried out suicide and other terrorist attacks in which innocent Israeli civilians have been killed and injured. In addition, Israeli security forces apprehended a considerable number of these teenagers and children prior to the perpetration of the terrorist attacks. Terrorist organizations exploit the innocent look of children and teenagers, which does not arouse suspicion and enables them to blend into populated areas. In addition, these children and teenagers, who have not yet reached adulthood, are more susceptible to the terrorist organizations' influence and the recruitment of suicide bombers.
12 Answers to 12 Conventional Lies
(10) - The Arabs send their children against our army positions, so that they can be killed, In order to provide pictures for the world media.
...This is a horrendous accusation, betraying an obnoxious racism. It contains the belief that Arab parents do not care about their children dying.
In the struggle waged by our underground organizations before 1948 and during our War of Independence, boys and girls played an important part. The arms training of Palestinian boys is no different from the training of our own Gadna youth battalions. The boy who, in 1948, destroyed a Syrian tank at kibbutz Deganya has become a national hero. When a people fights for its very existence and freedom, its youth cannot but take part. (I joined the Irgun, defined by the British as a terrorist organization, at the age of 14 and a half....
"VIDEO - A Mickey Mouse-like character is making regular appearances on Hamas's al-Aqsa TV to teach Palestinian children that Islam will "dominate the world," the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) organization said in a press release. Sections of the video are available for viewing on PMW's website.
"The squeaky-voiced Mickey Mouse look-alike, named Farfur, is the star of a weekly children's program called Tomorrow's Pioneers on the official Hamas TV station," PMW said, adding that the character takes "every opportunity to indoctrinate young viewers with teachings of Islamic supremacy, hatred of Israel and the US and support of 'resistance' â;; the Palestinian euphemism for terror."
Walt Disney's daughter today described Hamas as "pure evil" for creating a television show in which a Mickey Mouse-style character encourages violent resistance to Israel and the US.
The al-Aqsa television station of Hamas, which dominates the Palestinian government, started showing Tomorrow's Pioneers last month. It is hosted by a presenter called Farfur, who dresses in a Mickey Mouse suit.
He advises children to drink their milk as well as encouraging what Israeli critics have described as "hate-filled propaganda" against the "Zionist occupation" of Palestine.
In one clip which has appeared on YouTube, a young viewer speaking to Farfur by telephone recites a poem which includes the lines: "Rafah sings 'Oh, oh' Its answer is an AK-47".
On the way to school, children learn who the heroes are. In most of the world, streets, public buildings and schools are named after presidents, great musicians, scientists, and others who are to serve as role model for children. Palestinian towns such as Yaabid) named their most important street and schools after former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, January 4, 2007] One of the numerous examples of schools named after terrorists is the Dalal Mughrabi School, which honors Dalal Mughrabi, who killed American photographer Gail Rubin and 36 Israelis. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, December 14, 2004] Before the children open a book, they already know who is to be emulated.
Jews, whose legitimacy in Israel has been denied in the texts are further demonized as killers with genocidal intentions. Literary selections such as the following fill the texts at all levels. Your enemies killed your children, split open your women's bellies, held your revered elderly men by the beard, and led them to the death pits. (National Education, Grade 7 (2001), p. 20) Following the storyline of Farfur, Palestinians and Arabs are the victims and bear no responsibility for the 1948 Nakba (catastrophe) even though it was five Arab nations that attacked Israel. (Islamic Education, Grade 9, Part 1 (2003), p. 62) The textbooks present violence and martyrdom as the desired response to the "injustices" imposed by Israel. Twelve-year-olds learn that "The martyr's rank is above all ranks." (Our Beautiful Language, Grade 7, Part 1 (2001), p. 97) and as early as first grade, children recite:
Israelis are disparaged as "Zionist gangs," "colonial imperialists," and "racists." Palestinian youth are exhorted to fight Israel, not only for political gains but for religious Jihad. The battle for Israel is called "Ribat for Allah," (the place to fight Islam's enemies) and "Ribat for Palestine" is the ultimate of religious goals. With an increased religious aspect of the struggle, martyrs are violent liberation are praised. In Arabic language classes, students read:
O my homeland, I would not cry in this wedding party
For our Arabness refuses that we cry over the martyrs p. 13
I swear by Al-Aqsa Mosque and those plains
I shall not return the sword to its sheath and shall not lay down arms.
School outings and after school programs solidify the indoctrination to hate. This month Palestinian children were treated to an exhibition of Israel burning children in a crematorium.
Hamas exploitation of civilians as human shields: Photographic evidence
his cynical strategy include the following tactics:
- The deliberate launching of rocket from populated areas
- The deliberate use of civilian homes to shield Hamas arms and explosives manufacturing facilities
- The deliberate use of civilians as human shields against anticipated airstrikes
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism- Obstacle to Peace/Hamas war against Israel/Hamas exploitation of civilians as human shields - Photographic evidence.htm
One of the residents who signed the leaflet told an Al-Sharq al-Awsat reporter that the leaflet was the cry of a thousand Palestinian families who fear for the fate of their children because of these acts. The resident claimed that the gunmen's strategy was to accuse the children of being Israel 's agents, "followed by a d em and to restore their good names by carrying out acts against Israel â;¦"
A 12 year-old who died in the fighting was reported to have so yearned for martyrdom that he wrote his own death
announcements on the walls of his home. An injured 13 year-old boy was reported as having said, "My goal is not to be injured, but rather something higher - martyrdom."
A 13 year-old girl from Egypt tried to sneak into Gaza in order to "Join the Palestinian children in anything, even throwing
stones."
A week earlier, a 12 year-old boy was stopped at the Israeli border after attempting the same thing. But why does the PA encourage Palestinian children to become involved in this violence.
The European Jews don't have a history of being in the region of thousands of years. There's an article in yesterday's L.A. Times that shows that the Palestinians are finally starting to get smart about their situation. The solution that alot of the intellectuals are pushing is the One State solution. Indeed, that will really force their hand and the hand of its bitch: The American government. Now, the zionist will trapped into an apartheid state or accept the Palestinains as equal citizens, which will change the nature of that country considering that there will be more Arabs than zionist. Ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!!!
"Don't have a history of being in the region of thousands of years." Is that the test you want to use for everyone so people wouldn't have the right to immigrate or emigrate?
How long have you occupied your land?
Ah Walden claiming the rights of the "master race" again! Actually when the east european zionists came up with their racist colonial plans (1880s), there were only about 40,000 jews in Israel. Such mideast jews for the most part consider the zionists from eastern europe to be racist killers.
Gilad Atzmon - The Tzabar and the Sabbar
Religion â;; Zionism is a total disaster - colonial, expansionist, nationalist philosophy based on racial chauvinism. Hebraic cultural realty, slang, food, blue sky, sea, desert, spring and autumn, hills and valleys, olive trees... all belong to the land (Palestine) rather than the swelling apartheid State that seized it momentarily (Israel).
Reflections of an Arab Jew
Religion â;; Zionism is destroying much of judaism. For Sephardic (oriental) jews, Israel does not represent aliya (ascent), but rather a yerida (descent). Oriental-Sephardic peace movements not only call for a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians, but also for the cultural, political, and economic integration of Israel/Palestine into the Middle East.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/02/04/...
August 1995, Istanbul, Turkey. A bombing of Istanbul's popular Taksim Square injured two U.S. citizens. This attack was part of a three-year-old attempt by the PKK to drive foreign tourists away from Turkey by striking at tourist sites.
August 21, 1995, Jerusalem, Israel. A bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny, and wounded more than 100.
November 9, 1995, Algiers, Algeria. Islamic extremists set fire to a warehouse belonging to the U.S. Embassy, threatened the Algerian security guard because he was working for the United States, and demanded to know whether any U.S. citizens were present. The Armed Islamic Group (GIA) probably carried out the attacks. The group had threatened to strike other foreign targets and especially U.S. objectives in Algeria, and the attack's style was similar to past GIA operations against foreign facilities.
November 13, 1995, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. A car bomb exploded in the parking lot outside of the Riyadh headquarters of the Office of the Program Manager/Saudi Arabian National Guard, killing seven persons, five of them U.S. citizens, and wounding 42. The blast severely damaged the three-story building, which houses a U.S. military advisory group, and several neighboring office buildings. Three groups -- the Islamic Movement for Change, the Tigers of the Gulf, and the Combatant Partisans of God -- claimed responsibility for the attack.
February 25, 1996, Jerusalem, Israel. A suicide bomber blew up a commuter bus in Jerusalem, killing 26, including three U.S. citizens, and injuring 80 others, among them another three U.S. citizens. Hamas claimed responsibility for the bombing.
Since September 2000 the security forces are witnessing the cynical use by terror organizations of the Palestinian medical resources in general and of ambulances in particular, assuming they are 'immune' to security checks at checkpoints.
The use by the terrorist organizations of medical resources, particularly ambulances, in order to bypass the searches and security checks in IDF checkpoints emphasizes the need for a security check of medical vehicles. Such searches are conducted in order to ensure that ambulances are not used by terrorists in an attempt to transport terrorists, weaponry and explosive devices.
Last week, an Israeli television station aired footage of armed Arab terrorists in southern Gaza using an ambulance owned and operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees. Palestinian gunmen used the UNRWA emergency vehicle as getaway transportation after murdering six Israeli soldiers in Gaza City on May 11. The footage shows two ambulances with flashing lights pull onto a street. Shots and shouts ring out during the nighttime raid. A gang of militants piles into one of the supposedly neutral ambulances, clearly marked "U.N." with the agency's blue flag flying from the roof, which then speeds away from the scene.
The Israeli Army found an explosive belt and two wanted men inside an ambulance operated by the Palestinian Red Crescent, confirming suspicions that Palestinian ambulances and aid workers are being used to promote terrorist attacks in Israel.
A search of the Palestinian ambulance stopped on March 27, 2002 turned up two men identified as having direct links to terrorist organizations, the Israeli Army said. An explosive vest similar to those worn by suicide bombers was discovered hidden under a stretcher. The Palestinian Red Crescent is the equivalent of the Red Cross and is an internationally recognized emblem denoting Palestinian emergency rescue vehicles.
> The solution that alot of the intellectuals are pushing is the One State solution.
This reminds me an old joke about a man telling his friend that he was going to marry the Queen of Britain. "It's already 50% arranged: I AGREE!".
You see, Abu, TWO sides must agree to marry each other for a marriage to happen. Now consider this:
If someone told you "I hate you. I'm going to kill you and all your family members. I'll take your home, your properties and all your possessions. LET'S GET MARRIED!"...
Would you agree? I would not and so will Israel. The answer to a "one state marriage" is a definitive NO.
Read the Goddamn article. It makes a helluva lot of sense. All Mr. Abbas has to do is disolve the Palestinian Authority and then the zionist entity would have make a choice. Either incorporate the palestinians into Israel, with full equal rights or occupy the West Bank and Gaza and have an apartheid state on their hands. Perfect political idea if you ask me
I do not see any reason for Israel to take responsibility for the Palestinian Arabs in case they'll "disolve the Palestinian Authority". As a matter of fact, it's up to them (the Palestinians) to decide how they're willing to govern themseleves. They have the very same right for self-determination the Israelis have.
The only choice Israel does and will have to make is how to fight Palestinian and other terrorists in the most effective way for as long they their leaders (be it Palestinian Authority or anything else) are willing the war to continue. If and when the Palestinian leaders will decide to end the war and negotiate a peace agreement Israel will not refuse. It's that simple.
Israel is such a small territory of land and small population to warrant all the attention it receives from the Arabs and the rest of the world. The Palestinians would do better if instead of accepting Charity and Arms from their Arab brothers, they would invest in an economy. Working in a shioe factory is not as exciting as lobbing bombs, but it holds a greater future (than suicide) for ones's children.
Whenever there's a breakthrough towards peace, there is action on both sides which clearly demonstrates that neither side wants peace. We should give up this seasonal farce of a movement toward a two-state solution. Israel should simply expand its borders to include the occupied territories and make UN supervised accomodations for the Palestinians it takes into its borders.
> Israel should simply expand its borders to include the occupied territories and make UN supervised accomodations for the Palestinians it takes into its borders.
As I've explained above the answer is NO. Accepting all Palestinian Arabs into Israel will make them Israeli citizens creating Arb majority if Israel and transforming Israel into another Arab state where neither Jews not other minorities are not welcome and do not have equal rights with the Arab majority.
Ok, smart motherf'er, what is your solution? I bet I already know what it is
My solution? Israel should finish the wall/fence separating it from the West Bank and Gaza; remove all Israeli settlements from behind the wall; declare that the territories there are the Palestinian state.
This will achieve several goals: First, the Palestinians will get a state they, apparently, are asking for. Second, the Palestinian leadership will find itself in a state of war with Israel and will have to ask for peace or deal with the consequences. Third, if and when the Palestinian leadership will realize that in order to improve the situation it's necessary to stop violence and NEGOTIATE a better deal a peaceful solution will become possible.
There will never be a peace deal unless the zionist allow the palestinians that fled the fighting, 1948, return to their rightful property. Secondly, if you read the article about the one state solution in Thursday's L.A. Times you'll see that the current zionist government is afraid that the Palestinians will do just that
> you'll see that the current zionist government is afraid that the Palestinians will do just that
I'm afraid that the current zionist government is afraid of the Palestinian proposal to about the same degree the Queen of Britain was afraid of the guy I've mentioned in my joke above.
Let me explain it to you again: it's up to Israel to decide who will and who will not be allowed to settle there. As long as the Palestinians reject a peaceful solution the war will continue and one day Israeli patience will end; then the number of Palestinians killed in an average day will increase from TWO (as it was for the last eight years or so) to TWO THOUSAND or more.
At that point the Palestinians will have two choices: BEG FOR PEACE OR BECOME HISTORY.
Well, palestine is the BIGGEST refugee problem in the world (seven million christians and moslems), so that is why the world should pay more attention to the racist ethnic cleansing that takes place there.
As for investing, how much commerce did jews produce while cooped up in the Warsaw Ghetto? Do you really think the christian and moslem palestinians can do better cooped up in their concentration camps in Gaza and the West Bank?
Yes, the one-state solution is the only way oput, but it also has to provide for the millions of christians and moslems that are refugees in third countries.
Israel could buy-off those Palestinians' "right of repatriation" who are settled, or wish to settle, elsewhere. It would be cheaper than maintaining a constant state of seige.
Consider it done. As there is no such "right" for people who never lived in Israel and never were Israeli citizens the price of this "right" is exactly zero and Israel already paid it to the Arabs.
I already know that there is no legal base for the demands of the descendants of Palestinian refugees to "return" to Israel where they've never lived.
So... what is YOUR point?
My point is to not argue. My point is to understand the claims from both sides. As long as both sides "stick to their guns", they will contine t live in a state of siege. Overturning the regimes in Syria, Iraq and Iran will not yield a lasting peace. Characterizing the Christian Fundementalists and Islamists as wanting to help God by speeding up Armageddon will not yield dialogue.
Below is the short summary of the claims from both sides:
Israel claims that it has the right to exist in peace and security as a sovereign independent state.
The Palestinian Arabs, most Arab states and some non-Arab states like Iran claim that Israel should be destroyed.
Is it a satisfactory answer?
Of course there is a legal basis for return of christians and moslems ethnic cleansed by zionists. In fact, the UN has already noted that the zionists broke the conditions of the "partition" before, during and after and has recognized that 5 million palestinian christians and moslems have the right to return to the homes and property. Furthermore, the UN has detailed lists of the land and property stolen from them by zionists.
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Some more hate garbage!!