Politics – California voters would change their February primary vote for Hillary Clinton to a vote for Barack Obama if the vote were held again, according to an exclusive poll commissioned by CBS 5.
Really. Are that many people going to just hand it to the GOP?
Oh antibrainwasher ... or should I say behindthecurtain?
I just think you are so awesome!
You represent the absolute pinnacle of what it means to be a Republican.
YOur insidious deep self loathing is simply the most fertile conditions to accept the hypocrisy that is the Neo-Conservative.
Plus, it dont hurt that you seem to have fertile dirt in your brain neither.
With the Republicans going on about how the Democrats are hurting themselves I have (and still do disagree). I think this backs that position.
I've also said that Clinton's position that she's won 'more Electoral Votes' is perhaps the STUPIDEST thing she's said because there is not a chance in HELL that California would EVER vote for McCain.
I also think that the argument that Clinton supporters won't back Obama is equally absurd. I don't think that Clinton has NEARLY as many supporters today as she had on Super Tuesday. Yes I'm sure that Obama has had some defectors, but I think it pales in comparison to Clinton's (in California and other states that have already voted).
"there is not a chance in HELL that California would EVER vote for McCain."
Don't underestimate the Drivers License for illegal aliens issue or the Bradley effect. Tom Bradley was 15% to 20% ahead of George Deukmejian in the final polls in 1982, but lost. And the master manipulator, Pete Wilson, is helping McCain. Also, GOP candidates habitually run 5% ahead of the final statewide polls anyway.
So much for the "I won the big states" idiocy Hillary has been using as a rationale for her getting the nomination. ANY Democrat wins California, New York, etc.
Hillary claims that only she can put together a winning coalition. This despite the obvious fact that she now trails in every single meaningful metric.
Won half as many states as Obama.
700,000 votes behind in the popular vote.
Behind in pledged delegates.
Behind as of today in superdelegates.
Despite corporate and lobbyist support, far behind in fund raising.
Out organized.
Maybe I am just stupid, but I don't see ANY proof of her having the winning coalition in those facts.
"Maybe I am just stupid, but I don't see ANY proof of her having the winning coalition in those facts."
Not stupid, just naive. Blacks and elitist leftists (Obama's main supporters) will never vote for McCain. Hillary's main supporters are blue collar whites, who WILL consider voting for McCain. Basically, Hillary would keep a far higher percentage of Obama's voters than Obama will of hers. It is like the GOP in the 2002 California Governor's race. Richard Riordan would have buried Gray Davis, but Riordan couldn't get past the fringe majority that controlled the GOP Primaries. Obama is heading down the same track
Not so Jose. This is just another red herring put out by the Clinton team. The old Clinton arguments just don't hold sway any more. Obama increased his percentages against white voters in Indiana and continues to make gains in this category. I guess the Hillary supporters think they can threaten the DNC that they won't vote for Obama. It's a free country. Vote for whomever you want. Obama will win it without those votes --he has so many new votes from young folks and independents it won't matter. How are blue collar whites the critical vote? I doubt they'll be attending any big money fundraising dinners. It's ludicrous. Threaten away. Who cares? Did you see Harvey Weinstein threatened Pelosi? Who cares about that big fat tub of lard that steals other writer's work and puts his name on it anway.
"How are blue collar whites the critical vote?"
They are critical in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio. Those will decide the election.
You have no idea which state will be the battleground that will decide the election. And you have no idea how the votes will fall after the general election gets underway. With the disaster Bush has made of our economy, with Al Quade stronger now than when he declared his "War of Terror", with Bush/McSame wanting to expand their failed Iraq strategy into Iran and Syria and Lebanon; I predict that McCain will loose in many states that have previously been solidly Republican.
It's my belief that once the dust settles and Obama is the Democratic nominee that the Democratic Party will unite around him for the alternative means another 4 years of the Bush agenda and we are all aware (save for the koolaid swilling 27% who continue to live in a constant state of denial) just how disastrous that would be for the Nation and the World!
YOu just wait JohnQ.
Our Republican Media Machine is the most powerful Attention Diverter that mankind has evera knowed!
Dontcha remember the election in 2000? We were effective in gettin THE ENTIRE NATION to focus on Al Gores 'wooden' personality. We got the whole nation in titters bout his 'Internet' comments.
ON the FLIP side, Conservative media made a BIG story bout how poeple would prefer to have a beer with GW!
What the media DINT report on was GWs rise to riches which were built on stealin land from middle class citizens in Arlington ... or before that ... to his cocaine habit ... his alcoholism ... his total embrace of mediocrity in education.
See how we Conservatives manipulate media?
We have no conscience. And this will be revealed again when Obama goes up against McCain.
From the blogs I've been reading from. A HUGE number of Hillary voters are saying they are voting for McCain. Something to think about.
WHAT??? Were they all dropped on they're heads when they were born? What are the odds on that? "Jimmy the Greek" could'nt even venture as to a nominal guess at that!
No, they just looked at the candidates and concluded Hillary is best, McCain is second choice, and Obama is last choice. The dynamic that Obama has to overcome is that a lot of Hillary's supporters do not believe that Obama is up to the job, so better someone who is capable like McCain.
Yes! Vote for John McCain, he'll restore the dismal, ebbing national economy,he'll take us out of the red, and into the black. He'll even bring gas prices down to under a buck fifty!
Why that's a cakewalk for him,know what else he'll do?
He'll finally bring the troops home, bring peace, harmony, and stability in the Middle East!
& that's not all! This aged "Don Quixote" Will fight evil dragons, and mistake windmills for them. But that won't deter him, they'll go down nevertheless!
& If you beleive that. I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, hardly used!
Y'know, I volunteer reading storybook fairy tales to toddlers 5, and under, & they DO love fairy tales,as well as the Hillary supporters who want to vote for McCain who think that he'll turn this nation around for the better, and this is a good fairy tale story. LoL!
"Vote for John McCain, he'll restore the dismal, ebbing national economy,he'll take us out of the red, and into the black. He'll even bring gas prices down to under a buck fifty!"
Uh, the President doesn't run the economy in our nation, although that is one of Comrade Obama's dreams.
Is that all you leftists have? Straw men? Good grief, Obama might pass Dukakis and head towards McGovern territory.
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There goes Hillary's excuse of only she can win the big blue states come November.
I wish you dint bring up the name Osama.
We Christian Conservatives are trying to keep Goerge W. Bushs close association with Osama bin Ladens family on the DOWN LOW Dontcha know.
Thats why GW dint really go after ole Osama ... and instead commited our nation to fightin in Iraq.
So please, if you are a fiend of the Bushes, no mention of their friend, Osama. K?
Hillary never said that. The point of her argument is that she runs better in battlegrounds like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.