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Posted By bugluver 5 months ago in NewsTwenty-two senators, including presidential candidate Senator John McCain , have sent a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency, suggesting it waive or restructure rules that require a five-fold increase in ethanol production over the next 15 years.
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mesodude5 months ago
It's the fake war in Iraq and the rest of the war machine that's blazing through 60% of US oil each year. Blame them and your greedy, energy hogging fellow Americans. The oil industry didn't get off the ground overnight but they sure as hell are working hard to put the smackdown on other alternative energy technologies in their infancies. It's so obviously a right wing ploy to blame this all on ethanol. Bang the global warming denial drumbeat, jack the oil prices up, lie about why we magically (virtually overnight) suddenly don't have enough food. It costs billions and billions of dollars for our war department to burn through millions of gallons of fuel every day for more than 5 years and Bushco is pointing everywhere but at their damn selves. We know what cons are up to. No one is fooled by this election year food "shortage". ROTFLMAO
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SpareChange5 months ago
Rediculous - instead of insisting that the old farm bill - that pays farmers NOT to grow crops should be disbanded, the Republicans want to stall environmental progress.
Farm Program Pays $1.3 Billion to People Who Don't Farm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
"In 2005 alone, when pretax farm profits were at a near-record $72 billion, the federal government handed out more than $25 billion in aid, almost 50 percent more than the amount it pays to families receiving welfare."
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mesodude5 months ago
Actually I think ending the fiasco in Iraq (aka Bush and Cheney's despicable, disgraceful, and criminally insane oil grab) would have a far more immediate impact on food prices. We need to slap some regulation on some of these industries because the amazing magical and wonderful "free market" just ain't tricklin' down the way it's been sold to the public by the right wing.
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quackpot5 months ago
Corn-to ethanol is nothing more than a gift to BIG business - the Ethanol lobby (lead by Archer Daniels Midland) and BIG agribusiness.
As a liberal, I am SICK AND TIRED of seeing taxpayer dollars going to the ultra-rich of BIG business.
Check my record on this - totally consistent.
I'm glad we agree for once, Endo!!!!!
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pc255 months ago
imagine his surprise, shock, and disbelief right now
meanwhile good old Harry and Nancy are trying to give farmers
300 BILLION dollars to make stuff like corn at lower cost to themselves so that they can charge us MORE for it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
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mesodude5 months ago
Actually, here is the light:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080510/ap_on_go_co...
Focus on Bush and Cheney's Oil Lobby connections and the answer to the so called food shortage is right under your nose. If everything was above board would Cheney need to be meeting secretly with Big Oil? Of course not. Don't believe right wing lies and hype.
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vettenut5 months ago
And would someone please show me where in the Constitution, the Federal Government was given the authority to require that mandate in the first place?????
Since when does the Federal government have the authority to require private businesses (by quantity and time frame), to increase their production of their product(s)???????
It's about time we all took a long and hard look at just how EXTREMELY far "over the line" of Constitutional authority the government has been stepping lately.
Then we need to bring it back into line and keep it there!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Endoscopy5 months ago
Lately??????
Where in the constitution does it say anything about education? Yet we have a department of education. That is supposed to be totally up to the states.
You are funny. Liberals have had the Federal government into all kinds of things not in the constitution.
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Endoscopy5 months ago
Ah, a true head in the sand liberal.
Basic economics. Supply and demand.
If supply goes up prices come down.
If supply goes down prices go up.
If demand goes up prices go up.
If demand goes down prices go down.
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With grain the demand goes up to make it into ethanol.
Grain supply for food goes down.
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With demand up and supply for food down price goes up and up.
Is that simple enough for you?
Or are you one of the conspiracy buffs that feel everything they don't like is a conspiracy?
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dunkirk5 months ago
ROFLMAO maybe you can supply us some figures on the basic economics to show us how the supply anbd demand fit this scenario? Oh wait you can't because they dont support that. Without ethanol unleaded gas increases in cost. Thats the supply and demand equation and it doesn't refer to oil it refers to money.
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pc255 months ago
you need to get some perspective
Oil at $120: Here's Why
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26386
The truth is that US oil companies have very little impact on current oil prices and their influence is waning by energy militant countries that own the reserves
and some more perspective Einstein
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26436
Consider the world's two most populous nations, China and India, which together contain over one third of the world's population and seven times that of the world's third largest country, the United States. Both China and India are experiencing annual economic growth rates approaching 10 percent. As these folks earn more, they want what we want â;; cars, air conditioning, TVs, better food, etc.
or does your arrogance and sense of entitlement lead you to believe that we should freeze economic conditions around the world so dunkirk can have $1.00 a gallon gas while the rest of the world lives in squalor and poverty.
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dunkirk4 months, 4 weeks ago
"while the rest of the world lives in squalor and poverty."
Roflmao, that seems to be a REPUBLICAN goal since most of their policies are aimed directly at that.
"or does your arrogance and sense of entitlement lead you to believe that we should freeze economic conditions around the world so dunkirk can have $1.00 a gallon gas"
Maybe every now and then the right can stay focus on what was asked. hard to do I know when you cant supply evidence to the contrary. But I believe the original question had to do with ethanol using up the corn supply and driving prices higher among other things. I asked for proof of that. So far in both your posts all you've done is post articles on oil prices NOT anything pertaining to the original topic. Great job Georgie.
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mesodude5 months ago
exactly...Bush, Cheney, McCain and their criminal oil lobby cronies will say or do anything to keep ExxonMobil campaign contributions flowing into GOP coffers. "There's no global warming. " "If the Democrats would let us drill, we'd stop launching fake wars, Big Oil will suddenly change their minds and be happy to lower their profit margins and give Americans a break at the gas pump. Just let us DRILL, DRILL, DRILL." " Pssst...Look over here. Don't look over there in Iraq where the "war" ISN'T being paid for with Iraqi oil--ANOTHER Bush LIE). It's the evil Dems. Your milk and gas are $4 per gallon because they won't let us destroy the planet and help Big Oil screw Americans over at the gas pump even more."
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pc255 months ago
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id...
Biofuels Meltdown
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"From the beginning, the entire biofuels effort has been built on flimsy projections and dubious accounting that were seized upon by politicians eager to demonstrate they were "doing something" about energy. Meanwhile, thanks to a 51-cents-per-gallon tax break, 25 percent of the American corn crop is being turned into ethanol. Farmland prices are soaring and food prices are escalating all over the world.
It's difficult to understand how advocates of biofuels can believe they are a real solution to kicking our oil addition....[T]he entire U.S. corn crop would supply only 3.7 percent of our auto and truck transport demands. Using the entire 300 million acres of U.S. cropland for corn-based ethanol production would meet about 15 percent of demand....And the effects on land and agriculture would be devastating."
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mesodude5 months ago
"It's difficult to understand how advocates of biofuels can believe they are a real solution to kicking our oil addition..."
--And what will Republicans do to lower gas prices? Stop giving billions of your tax dollars to Big Oil (even though it's the most profitable industry in history ever)? Yeah...That'll happen. Will the GOP encourage auto makers to to manufacture more fuel efficient vehicles? Urm, no. Why would they do something practical like that? Will Republicans guarantee that we will see lower prices at the gas pump if we allow the oil companies to destroy our country with more drilling? Exactly. Of course freaking-not. Does that sound like anything cons would do? They don't care about anything but PROFIT. Will they stop the US war machine from burning up 60% of our oil annually? Let's see...We're in two wars and threatening a third so...my guess would be NO (again). Nice try but tell us what the GOP will do that's such a sure fire hit.
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nostalgia5 months ago
"the National Farmers Union is critical of the letter from the GOP senators. It argues ethanol production has helped lower fuel prices by reducing demand for gasoline"
Let's see if the Democrats cave to the pressures of Big Agribusiness
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