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  tehranchik3 months, 2 weeks ago

  His words---Iran has made horrible threats against Israel. Where are these threats? What are these threats? Is the false quote the threat? This pizzes me off that the only guy who could possibly do something is falling in line with the rest of the politicians!

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    hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

    One more example of the fact that Obama will represent change IF AND ONLY IF americans hold his feet to the fire.

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    Thinker223 months, 2 weeks ago

    > Where are these threats? What are these threats?

    Here:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1209...

    http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/ar...

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=...

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breaki...

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,151...

    > Is the false quote the threat?

    Well, the quote(s) are hardly false considering that the entire world including BBC, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, Iranian Press Agency and Ahmadinejad himself repeat them on every occasion.

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      Thinker223 months, 2 weeks ago

      > This pizzes me off that the only guy who could possibly do something is falling in line with the rest of the politicians!

      The only guy who can possibly do something about Iranian threats is the Iranian President and, unfortunately, he is definitely falling in line with other Iranian politicians and clergy members.

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      hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

      Ah my, the same old stale garbage from the zionist killers again.

      Just How Far Did They Go, Those Words Against Israel?

      ... "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian," remarked Juan Cole, a Middle East specialist at the University of Michigan and critic of American policy who has argued that the Iranian president was misquoted. "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse." Since Iran has not "attacked another country aggressively for over a century," he said in an e-mail exchange, "I smell the whiff of war propaganda."

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        hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

        Jonathan Steele, a columnist for the Guardian newspaper in London, recently laid out the case this way: "The Iranian president was quoting an ancient statement by Iran's first Islamist leader, the late Ayatollah Khomeini, that 'this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,' just as the Shah's regime in Iran had vanished. He was not making a military threat. He was calling for an end to the occupation of Jerusalem at some point in the future. The 'page of time' phrase suggests he did not expect it to happen soon."

        Mr. Steele added that neither Khomeini nor Mr. Ahmadinejad suggested that Israel's "vanishing" was imminent or that Iran would be involved in bringing it about. "But the propaganda damage was done," he wrote, "and Western hawks bracket the Iranian president with Hitler as though he wants to exterminate Jews."...

        http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/weekinreview/...

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      hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

      Actually the Iranian president was right in what he actually said. Just as with the Nazis, any government with the number of crimes against humanity of the zionists in palestine should be brought to an end by the world. Many jews would be happy to see it go.

      Zionism versus Judaism

      Religion â;; Zionists have managed to unforgivably drag judaism's name through the mud for more than 60 years. Zionism might be a racist, supremacist ideology - but Judaism is most definitely not. The more Jews who make this distinction, the better: both for security of their fellow Jews, as well as to end zionist crimes against Palestinians.

      http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/04/15/...

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        Mutainia3 months, 2 weeks ago

        Hard to believe what you post, sir, especially when you are a Muslim who, no doubt, believes a Muslim can freely lie to spread the Islamic cause. By the way, HERE are the types hyper stands for:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1MbOgF9J7o

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          Edmar143 months, 2 weeks ago

          Hyperbola is not a sir. He is a she. And a very misinformed, hate filled, mentally deficient she, who needs a great deal of psychiatric help.

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            Mutainia3 months, 2 weeks ago

            Then Hyperebola needs to take off her burka and get some fresh air. A LOT of fresh air.

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              hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

              Really? The honest jews whose articles I linked here are fed up with fanatics like you.

              The loathsome smearing of Israel's critics

              Religion â;; In the US and Britain, there is a campaign to smear anybody who tries to describe the plight of the Palestinian people. It is an attempt to intimidate and silence â⻬" and to a large degree, it works. There is nobody these self-appointed spokesmen for Israel will not attack as anti-Jewish: liberal Jews, rabbis, even Holocaust survivors.

              http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/10/...

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              Mutainia3 months, 2 weeks ago

              Hyper told me on another thread that HE'S an American. It would be great if we could believe him. But, since he espouses a Jihadist sounding agenda, I can't but help thinking that he's a Muslim who is performing "al-taqqiya", rendering ALL that he says as hard to believe. It's NOT his, or her, or whatever it's fault...the fault lies with Quran 3:28 and 16:106.

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            hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

            Poor Edmar, the racist zionist extremists are fading into the dustbin of history and personal slurs are the only thing he has to offer.

            The End Of Israel?

            Religion â;; As a Jewish-American, I know that while it might be scary to some, while it will require a lot of imagination, the end of Israel as a Jewish state could mean the beginning of democracy, human rights, and some semblance of justice in a land that has almost forgotten what that means.

            http://religion.propeller.com/story/2007/12/23/...

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      libsRfunny3 months, 2 weeks ago

      "Well, the quote(s) are hardly false considering that the entire world including BBC, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, Iranian Press Agency and Ahmadinejad himself repeat them on every occasion."

      This must be troubling for many liberals here on Propeller who a while ago insisted Iran's president never made threats against Israel - such saying he would make it disappear from the map.

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    mcarpentry3 months, 2 weeks ago

    tehranchick, This suprises you? BHO is a politician, no matter how he spins his "CHANGE" he is nothing but a common day politician.

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    Georgia503 months, 2 weeks ago

    Threats? What threats? I don't see no threats.

    Holocaust? What holocaust? I don't see no holocaust.

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    libsRfunny3 months, 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, I bet Hamas won't be "hoping" Obama wins as much now. Then again, maybe they think like Wright does: That he's lying and being a politician.

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  Georgia503 months, 2 weeks ago

  "I think" ????

  My. What resounding resolution.

  Yo Hussein..."I think" that's not enough. Next.

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  aniokly3 months, 2 weeks ago

  Obama is lying. He is an Arab sympathizer. Read his books. Read his writings. He wants that Jewish vote so badly he will lie to get it, but the Jewish voter is far wiser then to believe him.

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    Georgia503 months, 2 weeks ago

    Well, outside of Hollywood anyway.

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    Thinker223 months, 2 weeks ago

    It seems that the American (not only Jewish) voters will have to choose between Obama and McCain.

    Obama may be "everyone's" symphatizer as long as he needs votes. This is the reason he said so many different things on different occasions to please different listeners. He promised a lot to all of them and he is not going to deliver as his promises contradict each other.

    One example of such contradiction is his declaration about "keeping Israeli security a priority" and his calls to "talk to Hamas" while Hamas declared that it will NEVER recognize Israel.

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      hyperbola3 months, 2 weeks ago

      That would be like calling on jews to recognize the Nazis. However, your lies in favor of racist zionist totalitarians from eastern europe are simple bullshiiittt.

      Hamas condemns the Holocaust

      Do No Evil â;; As Palestinians commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Nakba (dispossession and expulsion of most of our people), those still in Palestine face escalating aggression, killings, imprisonment, ethnic cleansing and siege. We are not engaged in religious conflict with Jews; this is political struggle to free us from occupation and oppression.

      http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/05/12/...

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        Edmar143 months, 2 weeks ago

        It's funny that when Jordan controlled the West Bank, not a single word about occupation was ever uttered by the Palestinians. In fact, Jordan not controlled the West Bank, it sits on 2/3 of Palestine. Now if you want to talk about occupation, not only does Jordan occupy 2/3 of Palestinian land, but it's royal family is not even Palestinian. They are from the Saudi Royal Family. You can't get much more occupied than that. When the Palestinians did rise up against Jordanian occupation of Palestinian land, they were ruthlessly put down by the Jordanian army. How come nobody talks about Jordan's occupation and illegitimacy. 85 Years of Jordanian occupation of Palestinian land.

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  dandt16123 months, 2 weeks ago

  Sure... he'll do whatever it takes....to get your vote. Talk about pandering. Please.

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  Edmar143 months, 2 weeks ago

  I didn't write this, and I'm not going to say anything more about it. I will just share it with you. I don't even know if this is correct since I haven't read the book. Can anybody authenticate this or tell in what context it was written?

  - (From Obama's book) Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

  However, for the record, Obama is a two year senator with almost no real political experience and a very spotty congressional voting history.

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  Mutainia3 months, 2 weeks ago

  "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." I can't believe he'd be that stupid to say that even if he DID sit through 20 years of Reverend Wright sermons. Such a quote sounds like a lie.

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