Politics – Hagee has often made references to Catholicism as the 'great ,'. That's why it was odd that McCain sought out his endorsement so assiduously. Hagee says now he "better understood" that his use of those descriptions, are 'a rhetorical device long employed in anti-Catholic literature and commentary.'
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I guess John McCains camp musta got to John Hagee to retract his well known hate-speech about Catholics.
At least now we know that John McCain knows how to count.
There are 45 Million Catholics in this nation.
45 million votes he was assured of NOT getting, so an apology was of major importance.
Does McCain think this will get him the Catholic vote? Is he that naive?
This story is HUGE (funny).
You got all the attackes from us Christian Conservatives on Obama about a select few sermons that Obama was not in attendance (as far as I know) and thats a MAKE OR BREAK issue for us Christian Conservatives ... (or so we say).
But then you got John McCain pleading, pleading, pleading over a series of months to get an endorsement from John Hagee ... who is an 'agent of divisiveness'.
And we Christian Conservatives are doin our best pretzel logic excercises to explain how Obamas ASSOCIATION is much worse than McCain's ASSOCIATION.
The simple fact is, Christian Conservatives simply express 'Rigid Conservatism' ... NOT Christianity.
I believe we Christian Conservatives should just admit it.
Christian Conservatives defines a POLITICAL preference ... one of intolerance for diversity.
Thats why Christian Conservatives jumped on the Wright ASSOCIATION. We needed an EXCUSE to not vote for a black man.
See how we work it?
Put Hagee and Wright in a room together, each with a Bible. They can then beat each other to death with the Bibles or put the Bibles away and bugger each other to death.
FOX News can show the film at 11.
lol...and Pope Benedict is one of the most moral and keen theologically sound minds on earth today. That anyone listens to Wright or Hagee when there is a genuinely well educated mind to see guidance from is pretty funny.
LMAO!
This is sad, the state of our nation. Where is the TV coverage on this? It's the equivalent of Rev Wrights speech if not more damning that his but it barley made the news just a passing mention on fox and CNN. The double standards are palpable in this country when it comes to reporting.
Truth it it is racist or borderline so!
yup.
You need to watch Fox then, they've talked about it a lot. CNN isn't worth watching.
Actually, truth be tolt, NEITHER is worth watching.
I agree Goppy, FOX is just off the radar and CNN is all Hill all the time. MSNBC is the only place to find some semblance of news if even.
Actually, I get all my news from my heart.
I do have an antenae out that seems to pick up info from the ether.
Then I route it through my heart - which filters out all the hypocrisy, hyperbole, BS ... and right wing corporate spin from mainstream media.
But that filter gets filled pretty quickly these days.
Beginin bout 30 years ago - with the rise of Newt Gingrich, Jerry Falwell, and NeoConservatism - Ive had change out the hypocrisy/BS filter nearly EVERY DAY!
Whereas prior to say 1978, I dint change the hypocrisy/BS filter but once a month.
Talk about it a lot? Slate, i watch fox...I flip from fox yo cnn to MSNBC, if i missed the a lot, it wasn't a lot and they were trying to spin it, saying it was not the same thing.
So ya think we have a "free press" eh? Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......
GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)
Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)
Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance
TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warnerâ;;the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling
NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, Wall Steet Journal the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).
Ahh yes, more idiotic spewings by people who don't know a damned things about media and how news is gathjered, organized and disseminated.
As far as HAgee, at least McCain never called him a "mentor" or "like and Uncle," as Obama had of Wright. NOr did McCain attend the man's church for 20 years. He might not have for even a day.
When will Wright apologize? Hell, why should he. The old fool is laughing all the way to his deluxe mansion in the burbs. Moving on up! Moving on up! To a deluxe mansion, in the sky. Oh, He's moving on up! Moving on up! He finally got a piece of the Pie!!!
Yep, Wright sure did. LMAO
Lips, I don't care how many times in a day you have a shower, stupidity will not was off.
When the owners of the news are also in league with shrub, the news is not liberal, get with the program you simpleton
Nope!
McCain never DID call him a mentor.
John McCain just sought his endorsement ... right after he heard John Hagee scream that CATHOLICS ARE W-HORES!
Of course a man who goes to church cause he's worshiping god is a novel idea lost on republicans. It's far better to worship the guy talking about his personal points of view. It's even better to not worship at all but simply pander and pretend merely to con voters into believing some falsehoods for political advantage. Yup! Nothing wrong with pretending to be something you may or may not agree with...if your McCain.
I know about all of this. They don't worry me none, the only thing i worry about is the people because the media is nothing without the people. They are starting to get that message. because as much as they held off on telling us that hill didn't win TX or her margin in PA was 9% which they choose to call points. The people went out the next week and voted. They like the Republicans are not in control of the American people anymore!
Yeah I like how the right wing print media in Ca. decided to print the Hill's giant win yesterday on one of their back pages.
Shame on you for watching FOX Black! I stated that they did talk about it a lot, when the other poster said he hadn't seen it at all on CNN,,,,, but though what I said was correct you had to find a way to spin it as you claim FOX did,,,, Dat's funny
Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking, since Donahue has accepted Hagee's apology and is ready for them to kiss and make up, they have decided to join forces because they don't want that "black" guy to get into the "white" house.
Could be reaching here, but I smell a rat and I think that's the bottom line for some folks.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking, since Donahue has accepted Hagee's apology and is ready for them to kiss and make up, they have decided to join forces because they don't want that "black" guy to get into the "white" house.
Just like a 'progressive' to always use 'race' and assume that all those that disagree with a man of color have to be racists.
So now they can get the Catholics to focus on the real issue: How much Rev. Wright is a threat..
This country is one giant television commercial that never ends.
Americans are constantly distracted by the irrelevant in order to forget the relevance of their vote.
Are we distracted or are we force fed distractions by those who don't want us to think about serious matters?
Obama vs. The Israel Lobby
Religion â;; Poor Obama. No matter how much he grovels to the Israel lobby, they won't take yes for an answer. The Lobby has been after him for months, trying to dig up "evidence" that he is necessarily an enemy of Israel. The best they could come up with so far were the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's jeremiads, which didn't have much of an effect.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/14/...
Finding Obama guilty of insufficient devotion to Israel
Do No Evil â;; Right-wing zionists attack Obama on the premise that failure to love Israel with enough passion or to be sufficiently devoted to its interests ought to disqualify -- presumably since, the Founders intended the first obligation of the US President to be to preserve Israel's security, just as George Washington said in his farewell address:
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/05/14/...
Keep in mind that Hagee is a "christian-zionist" and leader of their most prominent organization - Christians United for Israel. Palestinian christians have been complaining about Hagee for many years. Do you suppose that those christians will also get an apology from Hagee?
Challenging Christian Zionism
The Challenge Of Christian Zionism
The movement of Christian Zionism provides a challenge and an embarrassment to Palestinian Christians at a number of crucial levels, requiring us to address this issue theologically, politically, and existentially. It raises for us a number of issues that must be addressed.
First and foremost are the theological issues: What kind
of God does Christianity teach and what kind of God do we believe in? Is God a tribal, territorially-based God, partial to the tribe of the Hebrews and interested in granting them a particular piece of land in Palestine to be their eternal birthright regardless of the rights of its indigenous inhabitants?? Is God the Lord of Hosts, glorying in the military exploits of his people, andwrathful and vengeful towards their enemies, assuring them of military victory (regardless of their own spiritual state of godliness or lack thereof )? Or is God the sacrificial God who loves the whole world, and who, as revealed to us in Christ, transcends racial and national boundaries, and opens his arms and offers his salvation to Jew and gentile alike, inviting into his universal kingdom
all those who believe in him, granting them the power to be children of God, and inheritors of the promises??....
http://www.sabeel.org/documents/cs32.pdf
thank you so much for posting this information. But, be careful, the anti-defamation league considers any criticism of Isreal a work of anti-sem....
And guess who owns AOL, and hence Netscape.....
One ethnic group owns all american media, and has complete control over investigative journalism, the "4th leg" of american democracy. Good for them. No more antisem.. propaganda. But, ask yourself, who benifits from a protracted war in Iraq? Who is fighting Israel's enemies? Who is dying in Iraq and for what purpose. Who is running the propaganda campaign brainwashing the left and right in america? Who profits from the tabloid gossip? Who profits from the war bewteen cons and libs? Who pays O'Reily? Who owns Drug Lamebaugh? Who provides the airtime and profits?
Yes, it is clear that we are subjected to major censorship in america when it comes to zionist crimes against humanity. Our "corporate media" do not tell us that the majority of jews OPPOSE the zioncons in the american government and the zionist ethnic cleansers in israel.
Zionism versus Judaism
Religion â;; Zionists have managed to unforgivably drag judaism's name through the mud for more than 60 years. Zionism might be a racist, supremacist ideology - but Judaism is most definitely not. The more Jews who make this distinction, the better: both for security of their fellow Jews, as well as to end zionist crimes against Palestinians.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/04/15/...
Gawd Help us they is mutiplyin! Hyper seems to have a lunch mate.
A software program called Megaphone is used to ferret out anti-israeli comment on the Web so that the relentless zionists can come out of the corners and counter any criticism.
hyperbola
Finding Obama guilty of insufficient devotion to Israel
Devotion to Israel is like devotion to evil. Jewish people reject the Right Wing Israelis and they want to live in peace with Muslims and Christians. America will be better of without Israeli, Israel is a liability and not a trustworty friend, of course they will be a good friend as long as America is with them, the moment America refuse to help them then they will start digging the grave for America.
DAylight and hyperbola -- You are bigoted hateful people who are desperately in need of a psychiatrist. Make an appointnment
When did they release Daylight from Guantanamo?
That's right, under Bush/Cheney anyone who speaks out can be treated like your good old days under McCarthy!
You may not like what they say, but they have a right to say it.
The geniuses at Guantanamo did just release a guy who blew himself up in a Baghdad marketplace last week..
I thought we knew who the enemy was?
Guantanamo is a SAD American joke, it deserves no humor.
Sippin' stale coffee, Cake? Yeah, that guy who blew himself up. Shoulda kept him longer, but libs would have hated that, too.
Libs like you make Guantanamo a joke when a known terrorist gets released. He was a very nice boy. He used to cut my grass. Then he got into the Taliban ...
If you would only remove yourself from the divisive name callers who started shouting "LIBERAL" at anyone who confused them you'd understand that I support the death penalty, securing our borders, balancing our budget, and oppose affirmative action, so all you have just proven is either you're never too old to learn, or you can't teach old dogs new tricks!
I hope it is the former, and you're LEARNED that shouting liberal at everyone is old, desperate, and divisive.
You missed the entire point here (either confusion or purposeful distraction).
My point is that YOUR government let him go..NOT LIBERALS or anyone else. Our government is supposed to protect freedom of speech. Did you lose that meaning somewhere when reviewing my brief comment?
(I happen to support extreme interrogation tactics too, but obviously these buffoons can't even use that weapon properly)
This is a WAR. Terrorism involves innocent civilian lives.
*If I were you I'd ixnay your admission of hiring illegals!
R U on drugs?
Your commentary is deterioratin.
Maybe you are upset because John Hagee apoligized about his hatred for Catholics?
Frankly engineer it is you who needs the psychiatric help. The term "good germans" willing to support nazi crimes against humanity now has to be supplemented with the term "good jews" willing to support zionist crimes against humanity. Fortunately more and more jews world-wide recognize the zionist crimes against humanity and reject them.
Zionism is Dead, What Now?
Religion â;; The irony of history is while Zionists managed to create a nation state in the Middle East Ã;¢â;¬" the majority of Jews simply don't want to be part of a Jewish nation in the Mid-East. Three quarters of a million Israeli Jews have moved abroad. Jews, not Jihadists, have consigned Zionism to the dustbin of history.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/13/...
Bottom line: We're distracted.
Whether it is a combination of their ability to use it to their advantage, or their knowledge that we are consumed by their best use of distraction, it is the method used by
all whose interests are accomplished by its use.
If Catholics looked at the theological stance of either Wright or Hagee they wouldn't vote for anyone who follows either of them.
Your comment infers that Catholics are alone on Hagee but everyone should vote against Obama because Wright (theologically) offends
all white people, and THAT is simplistic and untrue.
Of course Obama denounced and disowned the comments of Wright.
Has McCain done like in regards to Hagee's ridiculous remarks not only about Catholics but about New Orleans, Gays, and other human beings? Hagee has called for more war in the middle east to hurry "duh pocalypse" along. Has McCain denounced this idiocy? No.
It seems so many Americans have become so stupid now, you might as well let Hagee and Wright have a celebrity god-guy deathmatch to decide who becomes the POTUS.
Remember -- there is a double standard. Republicans can get a way with something Democrats cannot
Everytime! Anyone who falls for this, um.. I have a bridge!
Goppy,
His apology wasn't very contrite:
"In a letter to William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights, Hagee wrote: "Out of a desire to advance a greater unity among Catholics and evangelicals in promoting the common good, I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful."
Really? But the best quote is from Donohue himself:
"I got what I wanted," Donohue said in an interview. "He's seen the light, as they like to say. So for me it's over."
As they say, 2 peas in a pod. Both of these 2 "luminaries" and "men of God" are a bunch of political hacks masking as religious zealots. They deserve each other.
BTW, look at the sycophants who've sunk this post. More peas in the pod than I could have imagined. They either disagree with the story or hate your guts. Either reason is like a brats tantrum - very unimaginative and childish. Who would have thought.