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Will Hillary run as an independent?
DEMS STARTING TO PANIC ABOUT HILLARY
"The Obama true believers think their guy can overcome all his problems and "hope and change" his way to victory, but Dem realists know Obama is a flawed candidate who has real problems with large segments of the voting base, and those problems are not fixable in the short term.
With a 72% to 28% percent crushing of Obama in West Virginia, Hillary has every reason to keep fighting. Dems need West Virginia in November, but it's clear that Obama can't win it.
The chaos continues."
http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2008/05/dems-star...
It worked for Lieberman. Sounds like Obama is having trouble uniting his own party. He doesn't stand a chance. He's too controversial, too inexperienced, too full of empty rhetoric.
Go Hillary!!! Make that move! 29 percent of Dems want you to run!!! Remember Lieberman!!! Gooo Hillary!!!!
lol, that would be the funniest thing I've ever heard. I would prolly laugh for about three days. But you KNOW that ain't gonna happen. It would be too good to be true! :D
What's it all about...Alphy....?
What would be too good to be true, is if you could dig up RR, and run a zombie for president. Get a little gris gris, a whole lot of voodoo, and we could have a Hoodoo in the White House! LOL!!
At least you would have a reason for holding your nose as you vote. Remember? You said you would have to hold your nose to vote for the Mc.
Now, let's see if we can dig up Elvis for a little campaign music. It will be 'magical'. LOL!
Viva Las Vegas!
Hey, I'd vote for a Reagan/Presley ticket in a heartbeat. ; )
Just think, Hillary has POWER, even if she doesn't get the nomination.
So, just think, if Obama is Pres, then logically Hillary would be the Senate leader.
Fun and games.
This is just wishful thinking by a bunch of racist...it's not going to happen. Happy daydreaming to you all. Your guy is so sure of losing that you have to device stupid idea to entertain yourself.
From the article...
"Earlier in the year, Republicans were far more likely to see Obama as the stronger Democratic candidate."
Probably still true...and since Obama will most likely be the nominee, McCain will have an uphill battle.
Klarissa:
No, logically, Clinton cannot just become the Senate leader. She would have to be elected to that position by other Democrats...
After what the Democrats have experienced under Reid's leadership, Hillary would be a shoo-in
Since Shrillary claims to have so much foreign affairs experience because of "Bosnia," it seems to me that Obama should make her Ambassador to the ME, and let's see how good she really IS at dodging sniper fire! lol
You'd also cut your nose off despite your face in a heartbeat.
Oh wait - too late - you already did that with your about face on McClown! I guess it's all about face eh? You give some, you get some...
But, since it's clear you don't give a damn about the country, who's face are you really trying to save today, Alpha Noseless? (not that your private eccentricities really matter to anyone other than the faces for whom you provide lip service...)
Man Sumps, you are allowed to want who you want to be president and do what you can to show your support, that even means posting threads here or merely 'wishing'. In fact all three candidates are 'wishing' right now aren't they?
I wonder if the Independent thing bothered you when it allowed Bill Clinton to win in the early 90s? Since Bill didn't have a 'majority' when he won, he most likely would have never been elected then if the crazy rich guy didn't run as an Independent.
Y'all keep harping on Clinton not winning a MAJORITY, but you keep forgetting that the current clown didn't even win the POPULAR vote - IOW, HE LOST!!!!! If it weren't for the Supreme Court & another independent, he never would've been president.
POPULAR I think he did the last time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_...
Papa how many times do we need to count those votes? Ot's been ten years and the numbers still say Bush won,,,,, I'm sorry that you guys still can't get over the fact that the tree in a suit lost an election,,,,, it's ok he's found another pet project so you guys can worship him,,,, I can't figure out why you would, but hey....
10 years - closer to 8. But I was bringing that up because you brought up the 1992 election - that's 16 years ago. And you complain about me bringing up an even from 8 years ago.
On the recounts, it all depends on how you recount. If you count all the Democratic absentee ballots that were destroyed, Gore wins. If you discount all the Republican absentee ballots that the Republican Secretary of State allowed the same mistakes to be corrected for which the Democratic ballots were trashed, Gore wins. If you believe a number of independent recounts, both Gore & Bush win. If you count the votes for Gore that 1 election official saw being DEDUCTED from Gore's total, then Gore wins.
You tell me to get over W's VERY questionable win from 2000, but you can't get over Clinton's Indisputable victory ov '92.
And as to his '04 victory, there are STILL many outstanding election-tampering & -suppression allegations out there. That's still in question, too.
I never said Clinton lied or cheated to win, you guys did (with Bush). heck even if I thought Clinton cheated, after about the 4th recount I would have been smart enough to figure out I was mistaken and let it go,, yeah 8 (almost 10 years),,, I missed it ny 2 which if 5 better than the way Obama counts states.
You tell me to get over W's VERY questionable win from 2000, but you can't get over Clinton's Indisputable victory ov '92,,, the whole point was that you said Bush didn't have a majoritym and I proved you wrong,,,,, I also pointed out that Clinton won with less than a Majority,,,,
Hate to break it to you. W won WITHOUT winning the popular vote in 2000. He only won the electoral college vote with the interference by the Supreme Court.
It's funny that States' Rights advocates went to the US Supreme Court to interfere & hinder a state's own laws with regards to recounts.
More hypocrisy.
And read my notes on the various recounts. Gore would've won under most circumstances, Bush won under just 1 or 2 - the most important of which was the interference by the SCOTUS. How dare it stop the recount for a week then say the recount can't continue because it can't be completed in the alloted time - which it WOULD have been if the SCOTUS wouldn't have stopped it in the first place.
"Sounds like Obama is having trouble uniting his own party. He doesn't stand a chance. He's too controversial, too inexperienced, too full of empty rhetoric."
--Judging from the obvious desperation of formerly prancing cons, Bush has totally destroyed the GOP beyond any kind of recognition. This is what you're reduced to-- running around in circles and splutzing one another in the face over a lousy Drudge report "poll". ROTFLMFAO
"This is what you're reduced to-- running around in circles and splutzing one another in the face over a lousy Drudge report "poll". ROTFLMFAO"
You been sniffin' glue again?
The Drudgereport doesn't conduct polls. You might have noticed it was a Rasmussen Poll.
It's a poll Drudge references in AG's link above. Doesn't matter weather Drudge conducted the poll himself or he's recommending one. We're talking about Drudge and Rasmussen. Both are noted for their wingjobbery. ;-(
lol, no they're not. Stop sniffing glue.
Rasmussen or not, I don't believe that nearly a third of Democratic voters want a third-party candidacy from Hillary Clinton. It's so obviously a form of electoral suicide. So I question the polling data--and can only reiterate that it won't be happening.
Don't you have a site to relaunch? ; )
I don't think Clinton would run in a 'third' party either. If she did it would probably serve Obama by taking Hillary's BIG MAC votes. If Obama wins then Hillary is out for two terms??
Senate and House Republicans destroyed themselves when they started acting like Democrats
Always better to act like grown-ups than children, right?
This is a new election. They can recognize their errors in judgement, and say so sorry. The Republicans can agree to dig for Domestic oil, lowering gas prices, and that will lower food prices. They can come out strongly for victory in Iraq, not cutting, and running in retreat. They can increase the military budget, make the tax cuts permanent, and they will do fine in November. What can the Democrats offer? Impeachment, healthcare, eliminating the tax cuts. They promised all that in 06. How did that work out for them?
LOL Ani
I don't think they are planning on that
Not when you read these heaslines:
Shaken Republicans look to McCain as savior
Soul searching Republicans are turning to an unlikely savior, one-time party heretic and now presumptive White House nominee John McCain, as they try to stave off an electoral disaster.
And look at what that intrepid leader on Republicans in the Houise said:
John Boehne: "I think that we're going to do a lot better than people think"
"John McCain appeals to almost all Republicans. He also appeals to a wide array of independents and conservative Democrats."
And who did they have at the press conference: Carly Fiorina
Take a look at her history at Hewlett-Packard
If this is where they are taking economic advice from, they are clueless!
ani...
Like Vietnam, there will be no "victory" in Iraq. We're in over our heads, and even if things do get better in the years to come, as I'm sure they will, we will always be bogged down with the problems there, both financially, and more importantly, in human lives.
Drilling for oil is fine, but why not invest more in better, less polluting, long-term answers like solar and wind instead of just oil for the short-term? Shouldn't we plan ahead better?
Hmmm...and you don't think healthcare is important? Sad...
With the loss of three Republican House seats since January, (Hastert of Illinois, one in Mississippi, and one in Louisiana on Tuesday), I see people running from the Republican Party like people from a theatre on fire.
Sorry, ani...they will not do fine in November...
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Too dark??
You forgot your biggest reason!
Wow. You really are quite a bigoted racist if you think Obama is too dark and you wouldn't vote for him because he's black. I'd vote for a qualified black man or woman in a heartbeat. "Qualified" being the operative word.
Such a pity there are so many prejudiced racists like you in America.
Oh AG stop wasting your time, you are not going to split us up. If Hill doesn't get the nod, as she has said she will put her power behind the nominee for the party and that's it. If she goes Independent, the only thing that will come from that is a McCain win. I hope you don't she is that stupid. The republicans in this country were gullible to fall for tricks like this, I am happy to report that DEM's are much more smarter than falling for this! Sorry AG but we will unite in the end.
lol, tell me something I don't know.
I believe that Obama is having trouble uniting his party because the very liberal wing of the Democratic Party is trying to shove Obama down the throat of the Democratic voting
base
so...
more people want her to simply drop out than want her to run as an indie.
hilarious.
No respectable Democrat wants her to run as an independent. Anyone with half a brain would know that even if she exceeded Nader's small numbers (and she likely would) it would hand McCain the
Presidency..Come on..really..how idiotic!
Drudge...'nuff said.
Yup..rumor mongers and trouble makers.
Hannity was running the "stop Hillary Express"..
now he's encouraging her to stay in.,.he's another smug jerk.
as often as Hannity, Ann Coulter, and Rush flip-flop, is it any wonder they are supporting McCain?
Can you see and hear the cons flip floping on Global Warming, on the war?
Conservatism is just a ball and chain on progress, they worship the status quo and worship the mogals and kings who profit from the status quo.
There is no one or nothing they won't kill or destroy to make their money, the rest is just distraction.
They are expecially adept at hiding behind religious "morality" as rational for hording their money and power.
What lies about Conservatives. When you actually see a Conservative in the Republican leadership, maybe you can comment on them.
This is directed at all who claim to be conservative but still trust the Republican leadership!
The Republicans are too cowardly to elect a true conservative..Your last real conservative was Newt.
They are a sad lot! They're not even good at pretending.
At least the moderates and mainstream liberals know who their extremists are! (Sharpton, Cucinich, Wright etc)
What's your excuse ?
The guys you still love now were just telling you to hate McCain for the last 7 years..What changed since February??
Fear???
If you have any shred of dignity and self respect you'd vote for Barr. (Bob, not Rosanne)
Nice try. A vote for Barr is a vote for a Democrat. Nothing has changed with respect to my feeligs for McCain. He is at least answerable to a Conservative core of the Republican Party. The Dems don't have a Conservative constituency with a voice.
But you fools all rallied behind the biggest scam of a self-proclaimed conservative in American history.
George Bush has made a fool of the party and what was the meaning of conservatism, which is now synonymous with those who are easily fooled.
Can't you at least rally behind your principles for once?
Been asking Dems to have some principles for years. The Libertarian Party is an uncoordinated agglomeration of people who vary from nearly anarchists to Right Wingers. It will never have the cohesion necessary to be successful as a movement in itself, although I'm grateful for it's intellectual contribution to the Republican Party. The Conservatives really don't have an alternative to the Republican Party unless we want to be permanently marginalized.
I don't get it. Why can't you use the same philosophy when you discuss the rest of the world?
So, you must follow the republicans even though the party strays from conservative principles, but when a person who strays from the liberal ideology still follows the Democrats you call them a liberal?
So, not all Republicans are conservative, but all democrats, and anyone who questions George Bush, opposes the Iraq occupation, is against outsourcing OR wants a balanced budget is a liberal??
In other words, you missed my point. I haven't agreed with the spending on the war myself so you're barking up the wrong tree here.
29% is almost twice the number of people who trust the GOP to run the country. Is this article your way of facing the GOP implosion? Wow... ;-(
it's all they have left, aka the circle jerk.