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Amazing that Bush would say all this stuff about Obama and the nazis while
Bush's grandfather made their forture off of the nazis and was a nazi sympathizer.
Bush has a lot of nerve going to Isreal when his grand pappy was on the board of directors of a company that used Jewish labor in auschwitz
it is Bullsh!t
Look, I know there are a hundred links to Prescott Bush, so don't post 'em, but I don't buy the whole NAZI sympathizer thing.
There were a lot of people (including Jews) who did business with Germany at a very dark time in the world. Many, if not most of them, came to regret it. It was a bad deal all the way around.
I don't care about what his grandfather did, unlike God, I don't hold the sins of the father against the son. But, he's done enough over the last eight years that we don't have to look any further up the family tree.
likewise for something the grandmother, or the grandmother`s neighbor, or the business colleague said or did 40 years ago.
Oh, wait a minute, you added the disclaimer that `he's done enough over the last eight years that we don't have to look any further up the family tree`.
Well, in that case, better put all the non-issues back on the table because the cons don`t have anything on Barack and it would be unfair to put them at such a disadvantage, don`t you think?
Why don't you buy the Nazi sympathizer thing when you know there's so much data about it? Doing any bit of research on prescott shows his thirst for money and power.
What makes you think that this internationally elite, legacy family doesn't have a world view that's handed down between generations?
A world view that involves contempt for the little guy, make a buck off war (Bush Sr and Carlil) and suffering, in business with shady characters (Bush Sr watching 911 with a Bin Ladin)
Because it doesn't matter. The war was over 60 some years ago. Let's learn from the past, but focus on the future and live in the present.
I think it matters. The way family works is things are handed down, values and the like. [confer Barbara Bush's post Katerina astrodome 'sympathies']
so while it matters, and while 'the father's eat the sour grapes and their children's teeth are set on edge' [a honey of a bible quote is ever there was one, meaning the actions and character of the father, the 'sins' as you [and other bible quotes] put it, are visited from generation to generation-justice and innocence have little to do with it, it is unfortunately how existence works.
you can give Prescott the benefit of the doubt and say he was just lookin to make a buck and didn't care how,but surely you can see where such an attitude has been handed down thru the family?
you are right: if we want to use the higher standard of human justice and not natural laws and rhythms inherent in existence, we should forget Bush family history and let every man, as the rest of the 'grapes' quote says, 'die for his own sin'
It's only Wright...
I'm not saying that family character doesn't matter, I'm saying that whether or not Prescott Bush was a "NAZI" sympathizer is irrelevant to the current President. He may be a money grubbing, no account sleazeball like his grand-dad or he could be a basically (as far as I can tell) decent man like his father. I know which side I'd err on, but we must judge each person on their own merits (or in this case lack thereof) and not on the merits of their associations.
As you say, it's only Wright.
glad you caught that...
:-)
about Bush Sr, I actually just saw a PBS docu where people claimed he was very much into dialogue and was in the habit of developing personal relationships via phone with world leaders
imagine that
I didn't like his politics, but I respected (respect) the man.
Any Republican in that day and age who would stand up, after pledging to not raise taxes KNOWING that it was a political liability, but still the right thing for the country, gets my respect.
Although Bkumm, Prescott continued well after the war started; records released through the freedom of information act in 2003 show his dealings continued until 1952. 10 years after many of his companies were ceased for "doing business with the enemy". Whether he sympathized, (his involvement in a coup attempt here in the US in 1933 indicates where he stood) or whether he simply was willing to commit treason for profit makes little difference. I base this on his actions after the War began and Nazi atrocities were well known. Not on the pre war years which could be seen as "innocent" (hesitating to use the word).