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This article helps me to understand why Bush's words struck such a deep nerve with the Obama camp.
This is the main beef:
If Barack Obama has an Achilles' heel, this is it. He first exposed it last July in a Democratic debate when he replied, "I would," to a question of whether he'd meet as President with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "without precondition." Even Mrs. Clinton took a shot at that one, calling the Senator's comment "irresponsible and frankly naive."
At least this is a real issue!... Maybe, now, the conservatives can bite into this one instead of the other distractions they have been repeating.
Oh how can you be so naieve?
The LAST thing we Christian Conservatives want is a substantive discussion of facts and issues.
We learnt long ago that if you manipulate the media with fear and smear ... you can gain power. And with power, you can achieve AMAZING things.
Liek you can bankrup a nation!
You can start wars!
You can claim you are a Fiscal Conservative, then engage in the highest level of Deficit Spendin that the world has ever known!! (Well, some of them crazy African nations had some presdients who were equally intent on crazy spendin.)
You can claim you are a COMPASSIONATE Conservative ... then DENY health care to kids!
YOu can claim to support the troops ... then VETO legislation to help soldiers returnin home from Iraq get tuition assistance!
OR EVEN BETTA!
You can EXTEND soldiers tours of duty .. THEN .. offer them the LOWEST cost of living increase in 14 years!!!
Its all bout power.
When you got it liek us Conservatives ... you can lie while you smile.
Lets stay focused on the topic Goopy...
Until the Iranians relent on their crazed aspirations, Tehran poses an existential threat to the Jewish state. Obama pledges he'll always be with Israel. But it's not Israel that's causing him so much trouble. It's his own insufficiently formulated thinking.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/05/14/...
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_c...
Hey, that was an interesting link.
Thanks rimby.
Although .. of course I must discount it 'out of hand' because it dont match up with my favored right wing jingoism on the issue.
As a Christian Conservative ... Im committed to fomenting war and animosity.
(Gotta keep that dream alive of "The Rapture In My Lifetime"!)
Goppy:
LMAO
What are they going to do when they are left behind? LOL
Say, God why? I did what I thought was right in mans' eyes.
God doesn't want sacrifice he wants us to follow his path not ours.
"What are they going to do when they are left behind?"
This from someone trapped in the '60s and '70s? Can't teach an old fool new tricks, can ya, Gramps?
libs:
LOL hahahahaaaa
Just wake up from nap time or is it nap time?
Either way you seem a bit out of it. Just normal for you though huh?
Ahh, yes, more senile ramblings from our favorite grandpa trapped in the past. Yep, you can't teach an old fool new tricks.
Oh my. Surely we have Universities capable of giving voice to what he said, literally. The implications of this are terrible.
We say "regime change", they say, uh, that...
I know, I know ... we Christian Conservatives try our best to get everbody to FORGET that we singlehandedly elected Goerge W. Bush.
I hear ya! My lips is zipped.
Now I need further edjamacation on Right Wing Policy.
I know GW (oops I did it again) ... I know WE Christian Conservatives is pledged to Israel. And I appreciate Gws support. I liek Isreal too.
But can you help me to understand why GW love Israel more than Washington?
Or New Hampshire?
Or Michigan?
Or South Dakota?
Or Tennessee?
Or New Mexico?
Or Oregon?
Or South Carolina?
Or Ohio?
Or California?
Or Pennsylvania?
Or Kentucky?
Or West Virginia?
Or Illinois?
Or Idaho?
Or Goergia?
Or New York?
Or Minnesota?
Or Virginia?
Or Delaware?
Or Montana?
Or Arkansas?
Or Nevada?
Or Wisconsin?
Or Louisiana?
Or Maine?
Or Indiana?
Or Massachusetts?
Or Kansas?
Or Colorado?
Or Missouri?
Or North Carolina?
Or Nebraska?
Or Rhode Island?
Or Connecticut?
Or New Jersey?
Or Iowa?
Or Maryland?
Or Vermont?
Or Hawaii?
Or Alaska?
OR Mississippi?
Or
Goppy Is that all 57 states?
I laughed out loud.
you're just choking on your hit, ain't you goopy???
I dont know what you are talkin bout ... but I suspect its drug related ... something I suspected of you for quite some tiem.
Just look at that face... the crazed look in the eyes ... the maniacal grin ... the crazy dishevleled hair... you must shirley be a druggie.
Thats okay ... I mean ... so was our GW ... and we Righties LOVE im for it!
saturday nite, and you ain't got nobody,
I would pity you goopy, if you weren't so offensive.
have fun, tell your mommy I said hi../..
You realize of course, that YOU are here.
Man Alive Rodent! You are soooo gullible.
Sad.
my honey is watching a movie, just beside me
Hey Ranchy...
Are ya gonna ketchup with the rest of us???
I prefer Mustard. LOL
Hey Rancher, you ready to mustard the troops???
YEP. How you doing sweetie?
Better, now that I see you!
Been playing "catch-up" on everything I haven't had time to do lately! Sometimes it seems "the faster I go the behinder I get...", (to quote Alice and the Rev. Mr. Dodgson).
RANCHHAND, I thought the same thing, you beat me to the draw.
ranchhand:
LOL
"It's his own insufficiently formulated thinking."
Unknowingly,i'm sure,you just described bush boy to a t.ROFLMAO
Let's not talk to foreign leaders and see where it gets us,oop's,already know that one don't we.War,and more war,but thats ok because the defense contractors need more money.
The same people that lied to get us into Iraq are the same ones that are telling you what a threat they are,get the picture?
I am not a big fan of Iran's leadership but if you put their record of aggression and war up against ours guess who looks like the threat,give you a hint, it isn't Iran.
bush and his administration is trying every trick it can to broaden the war in the middle east and you all are falling for it,why?
Why do you think it is a bad thing to have dialog with foreign leaders no matter how distasteful they might be.I mean look at who we talk to and and who finances this country.The very country that has one of the worst human rights records on the planet,COMMUNIST China.
I like the neg AG.It lets me know that you are against communication,pro lies and a supporter of our finance company COMMUNIST China.Truth is a funny thing isn't it.
Hey, I liked the neg you gave me first even better.
Hmmm...
Would you have said that President Khatami (a card-carrying moderate) posed any particular threat to Israel?
I doubt it.
Middle Eastern politics are built around personalities, to a great degree. Wait for Ahmadinejhad to leave office (he must soon, due to term limits), and see if his successor is more reasonable. Then determine the best course of action.
To attack Iran now is like attacking the USA because you don't like GWB. The focus of your discontent will be irrelevant soon, so best to wait and see if it's sustained by the next President.
Having said that, there appears to be little substance under Senator Obama's warm and fuzzy feelings. That worries me.
catstevens
Goopy stay focused????
Can't be done. He tries to act like a Christian conservative and falls flat on his face every time. He has no real concept of what they really believe so he makes himself look foolish.
Endo...He is just another liberal bigot. He DEFINES liberal hypocrisy.
"The LAST thing we Christian Conservatives want is a substantive discussion of facts and issues."
How about starting with this:
1. Fact: Black Liberation Theology, as described by it's chief architect Rev. (sic) James Cone, is Marxist and anti-white.
2. Fact: Jeremiah Wright and current TUCC teaching Pastor Otis Moss III both quote from and are adherents of Cone's teachings.
3. Fact: Obama has been a member for 2 decades.
Typical of leftitards. Neg, but no rebuttal. To paraphrase a decent Democrat, "If you can't answer the points, stay out of the debate." Bunch of morons.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
Oh oh.
Somebody is bona fide ENRAGED!!!!
Heres a fact for ya! Neo-Conservatives have TAKEN OVER the Republican party and have turned it into everything that Republicans USED TO HATE!
REpublicans useta hate Deficit Spenders.
Guess what, Goerge Bush is the BIGGEST Deficit Spender of all tiem.
Republicans usta believe in seperation of church and state.
Guess what, Goerge Bush ran on a platform of MERGIN the two.
Republicans useta support the military.
Guess what, Goerge Bush VETOED a bill that would have provided tuition assistance for soldiers returning from Iraq.
Republicans useta support small goverment.
Guess what, Goerge Bush has VASTLY increased the size of goverment ... way beyond what was even envisioned just 10 years ago.
Republicans useta support keepin goverment OUT of citizens private lives.
Guess what Modern Republicans want to legislate womens rights, they want unfettered intrusions into everyones library records, etc.
lame, but entertianing to a few...
you go girl!!!!!
Thanks Rodent,
Hey, do you still use a Steely Dan or have you been 'reassigned'?
we're just an hour apart,
let me know, we'll meet for a drink, tonite is cool
google or pur in your gps.
2240 Marcella Way
Leesburg, FL I'm going for a few, just twenty two miles for me, and the evening is early, stop by....
hey, c'mon, geeked up the neighbors, in wildwood for RV service, we'll be on bikes, and coming anyway, just wanting you to entertian us, no harm.
MR Your gonna have to wait a while. Goppy has a bike but its
a three wheeler I think they call it a trike.
dern, the wife doesn't want to ride, and goopys a no show, but my new drinking buddy wants to ride, so we're off, by the wat, it's a new to me VFW, cheap drinks, good company,