Politics – The Tennessee Republican Party welcomes Michelle Obama to Nashville. What makes you proud to be an American?
Not a member? Sign-up today!
Radamel
KobraJeedai
dondukdun
cptnkrk
altnrg
srhgrace
Apinyas
pyuuuke
starskii
IceTi
adrielh791966
wanimayuresh
hatukabu
MaryLynn_
maneetion
romeohoover1968
soulkeeper009
shawnmartinez1960
sterlingburt19681962
MidnightPrism
permanentrich
morush
ccnatraining
asolious
rimbaud
nopatacious
cocacolerrr
harleyb761960
fyuuuuut
dailynewsus
rhettdejesus1975
leeharris1969
halenurevirgen
alamala
click331207w
chiefee351
Dex_84
Sandra_honestly
728)
We live in such a wonderful country, with so many reasons to take pride in our homeland. What makes you proud to be an American?
Personally, I'm most proud of (but fearful of) the Liburals in this country unifyin to Tear Down Neo-Conservatism.
Although Ima Christian Conservative ... I have never felt comfortable with the philosophy of this ideeologie ... what with its over-reliance on Military Expansionism.
The Neo-Cons saw a vacuum created by the fall of the Soviet Union and sought to fill that vacuum ... NOT with honor, dignity, democracy, fairness and justice ... but rather with Arrogance and Belligerancy.
Which is quite odd ... since it is those VERY Characteristics that Americans were conditioned to HATE about them Soviets.
So ... for the FIRST TIEM IN MY LIFE ... these post WW2 Crazies appear to be on the run.
And while they MAY try to continue to use Fear and Smear in their campaigns ... I sincerely believe ... possibly for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFETIME ... that Rank and File Honest Americans will REJECT their hatred.
For the FIRST TIME!
Goppy
The Neo-Cons saw a vacuum created by the fall of the Soviet Union and sought to fill that vacuum ... NOT with honor, dignity, democracy, fairness and justice ... but rather with Arrogance and Belligerancy.
Well said, America wanted to achieve everything like the street thugs. We are the super power and we will do anything we want, stop if you can, policy no longer works nowadays.
It's laughable that neocons would resort to citing truncated quotes of Michelle Obama's remarks out of context. Her full remarks were:
"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
Michelle Obama was NOT saying that up to this point she had never been proud to be an American. What she was saying was that up to this point, she had never seen so many disenfranchised and marginalized voters actively participate in politics -- and this record turnout has made her proud.
Sorry ybdoggy.
We Conservatives dont 'roll' that way.
Right Wing Media has already implanted into our brains, the finely crafted hate message they wrought.
Askin us to consider 'context' is liek talkin bout a Pink Elephant ... then askin us to NOT think bout a Pink Elephant.
As I have driven a many a mile through America, through big cities and fly over country, I have seen small towns having strawberry festivals, Crawfish Festivals, swamp buggy races, local stock car races, little league baseball games, high school football games, city council meetings, having a memorial day parade to honor those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for freedom in the world, kids fishing contests, and the latest in my little town was Cinco De Mayo downtown party, 97% of homeowners paying their mortgage and so on and so on. The US is the most charitable nation on earth contributing TRILLIONS to aid the less fortunate on earth. I feel so blessed to have been born in such a great country. Of all the places in the world The United States offers everybody who is willing to follow their dream a chance to better their lot in life. Is the U.S. of A perfect? No. Does it offer the best chance for freedom to follow ones dream? I would have to say an overwhelming YES!
Certainly, there are many things for which Americans should feel rightfully proud and you've listed some of those here. But as you admit "Is the U.S. of A perfect? No." There are certainly some flaws in our history and policies that we should not be proud of. America's unbelievably low voter turnout rate (ranked 139th out of 172 democratic countries in the world) is one of these less flattering aspects of which we can't be proud.
http://www.idea.int/vt/survey/voter_turnout_pop...
Michelle Obama's remarks in their entirety address ONLY America's historically low voter turnout. Until this year when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were eliciting RECORD voter turnout, she had never seen so many citizens actively participating in democratic elections. That's all she said. But the neocon smear machine cited her truncated quote out of context to make it appear as if Michelle said she had nothing to be proud of in America.
A gross exaggeration indeed.
The Neocon smear machine. These remarks were commented on by all political persuasions. You seem to want to pick out certain groups and do exactly what you claim others are doing. If this is the meaning she was trying to convey by these comments then why does SHE not validate them instead of having people like you read her mind and tell us what she REALLY means. And by the way if she is going to go out and stump for her husband then by all means she is opening herself up to ridicule and praise, but not one or the other.
CAPE:
"If this is the meaning then why does SHE not validate them."
You mean like this? LOL.
From your own precious Fox News:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/20/michell...
"Obama replied that she has been struck by the number of people going to rallies and watching debates, as well as record voter turnouts.
"'What I was clearly talking about was that I'm proud in how Americans are engaging in the political process,' she said.
'For the first time in my lifetime, I'm seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven't seen and really trying to figure this out รข;; and that's the source of pride that I was talking about,' she added.
When asked if she had always been proud of her country, she replied "absolutely" and said she and her husband would not be where they are now if not for the opportunities of America."
The fact is that Michelle Obama has REPEATEDLY "validated" what she meant. YOU just weren't paying attention because you were too busy trying to score cheap political points.
CAPE:
"And by the way if she is going to go out and stump for her husband then by all means she is opening herself up to ridicule and praise, but not one or the other."
I don't agree. Michelle Obama is not the one running for office. but if you must, then at least scrutinize her position on important issues, and do it TRUTHFULLY. Your pathetic attempts to villify Michelle Obama by citing truncated quotes out of context obfuscate pressing issues America is facing and are UNTRUTHFUL within the context of meaning of her full speech.
There is a PROFOUND distinction between engaging in intelligent, dispassionate political discourse and engaging in shameless muckraking. Apparently, you have trouble distinguishing between the two.
ybdogsct
In context the problem phrase that stick out like a sore thumb is "for the first time in my adult lifetime". Nothing can take that away. What she should have said in place of that is "these things make me prouder". Instead the campaign is stuck with her words.
ENDOSCOPY:
"In context the problem phrase that stick out like a sore thumb is 'for the first time in my adult lifetime'"
You misconstrue again by predictably citing Michelle's TRUNCATED quote out of context.
Michelle Obama said the words "for the first time in my adult lifetime" because she has never witnessed such high voter turnout in America. Remember that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are SETTING RECORDS for new voter registration, voter turnout rate, and fundraising. Barack Obama, in particular, is setting a record for low-level, grassroots fundraising, which demonstrates just how many people are actively participating in politics for the first time. This is something most of us, Michelle Obama and myself included, have never seen in our adult lifetimes. This is a first for America and Michelle Obama ought to be rightfully proud of the new involvement of previously disenfranchised voters in our democratic elections.
Try reading it again.
And that fact makes it OK to say that "for the first time in my adult lifetime" I'm proud to be an American. People voted for her husband and that is what she says. No way no how can you turn this sows ear into a silk purse. You obviously didn't really read my post. It was an extremely poor choice of words. In or out of context. Stupid to make that statement.
With your statement about the context she should have said she is proud of Americans or something like that. This statement was a sound bite waiting to happen. No amount of context will change it into something else.
ENDOSCOPY:
"You obviously didn't really read my post. It was an extremely poor choice of words. In or out of context."
You obviously didn't read Michelle Obama's full comment because if you had, you would realize that she was making an ACCURATE observation that is SUPPORTED by the available data. And that observation is that she has never in her adult lifetime seen such a high new voter registration rate, high voter turnout, and high campaign donation rate.
This new participation by the previously apathetic and disenfranchised IS something to be proud of. But the historically low voter turnout in DEMOCRATIC elections for the U.S., which proclaims itself to be the world's defender of DEMOCRACY, is nothing to be proud of. Again, Michelle Obama's observation is supported by the AVAILABLE DATA. The same can't be said for ANY of your unsubstantiated arguments.
http://www.idea.int/vt/survey/voter_turnout_pop...
Typical.
I read it in its entirety. It stinks. Bad choice of words. At best a Freudian slip.
It's no secret that the U.S., which proclaims itself to be the world's defender of democracy, embarrassingly boasts one of the LOWEST voter turnout rates of all free democracies around the world. Apparently, we defend democracy, but we just don't do a good job of practicing it ourselves. In fact, the International Institute of Democracy and Electoral Assistance has ranked the U.S. voter turnout 139th of the only 172 democracies in the world. (Italy is 1st with a voter turnout rate of 92.5%; we are 139th with a rate of 48.3%).
http://www.idea.int/vt/survey/voter_turnout_pop...
That is NOT a stat to be proud of. But the record voter turnouts Clinton and Obama are eliciting is. For the first time, we are seeing the kind of voter participation that we should come to expect from responsible citizens. And for the first time in her lifetime, Michelle Obama is proud to see how many people are actively participating in democracy.
Geesh! You libbies!!!
Your view of Patriotism is a liek a Water Well dug too deep ... too deep means too costly ... and too much trouble.
Our Christian Conservative view of Patriotism is a Water Well that is shallow ... which makes it cheap & simple.
Course, we get left with a not very fine mixture ... and theres lots of detritus in the water.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008...
"Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn't be possible in any other nation on Earth. What she meant is that she's really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who've never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change."
So Michelle Obama is congratulating previously apathetic voters for participating in our democracy and in response, the neocons attack her.
Do they disagree with her? Do these neocons believe that citizens shouldn't vote? Their response reveals a profound distinction between Republicans and Democrats: Republicans believe patriotism can only be expressed through blind fealty to America, while Democrats believe patriotism is best expressed by identifying and improving America's flaws.
You make very, VERY good points ybdoggy.
And your logic carries with it a inspirational deep, abidin understandin of Barack and Michelle Obama's inspirational pride in Changin the pair-a-dime of this nation.
But we Christian Conservatives are so INVESTED in GW and Neo-Conservativism ... we caint hardly 'just say no' now! We believe there are still depths of depravity to be plumbed with Republican John McCain.
After all ... he said hes gointa continue Goerge W. Bushs policies! And we dont much liek change.
A person who lives in India and is a Muslim says bad things about the US and a bunch of libs agree. What a bunch of nuts.
ENDOSCOPY:
"A person who lives in India and is a Muslim"
If Barack Obama is a "Muslim" as you claim, then he could not also be a member of Jeremiah Wright's Trinity Christian Church. Well, which is it? Is Obama a Muslim or is a Christian, half-white racist against whites?
If you're going to smear Obama, you should first get your lies straight. LOL.
Pathetic.
LOL
Daylight is the person I was talking about. Read what I said. Obama doesn't live in India last I heard. Or do I have to explain geography to you. It's by China and Pakistan.
Obama was raised a Muslim for the first few years and his Father was a Muslim and still is. In the eyes of Islam that makes him an Muslim apostate. It is open season on apostates in Muslim countries. Either the people kill them or the government will.
If he is elected President and goes to Iran to talk the president there the army and police are not allowed to protect him. Whoever wants to attack him will be allowed through. That is Sharia law.
Watch it Goppy, saying the first time and America could get you into trouble with these people, just ask Michelle. I am proud of the people in my country that has for the first time put their fear of a black man away and see him for what he is.
I find it amusing that they are people here who would neg me if even I said god bless America. And some how they think they should run the world. You can't be this shot sighted and lead anything...you will not lead for long as you can see now your party is crashing to the ground all around you. So keep up your arrogance it's better for us, and the country!
BTW, Nixie ... I liek how you package patriotism and use it as fodder for a cheap shot at a candidate's wife. ... CLASSY TO THE NINES... !
But hey! This is a recurrin Tacktic of us Right Wing Craaazies!!
But this is a classic! I liek how you trade on, manipulate PATRIOTISM to RAM home some innuendo bout a candidate you DONT liek as bein ... somehow ... UN-Patriotic.
Oh well ... this is quite common amongst us Craaazie Cons. Well - just look at what Karl ROVE did in 2000! He traded on GWs RELIGION! Just liek it was a sack of potatoes!
You know what Nixie?
You know what woulda made that video much betta for us Craazie Cons? You shoulda had a big picture of Charley Heston lookin down menacingly ... holdin a long rifle!
Now THATS our Craaazie Con vision of 'Merica.
YIPPEEE!!
I dont know why you gave me a 'NEGATIVE' Nixie.
Hey, I should call you Neggie Nixie! You always givin me Negs!
I dont know why! We Christian Conservatives shuld stick togetha.
LOL!
Anyway, I'm proud to be an American but due to this current administration's intrusive invasions of it's citizen's rights in terms of invading their right to privacy all in the veiled excuse of "national security" as an example sorta, kinda, takes away some of that enthusiasm away.
A personal note to the NSA, FBI, CIA, et al. Please feel free to open up "shmuckraut's"snail mail, intercept his E-mail, wiretap his phone lines, set up a van across his street with the latest state of the art surveillance equipment, and place hidden bugs all over his house as this Neanderthal doesn't seem to mind having his privacy or civil rights violated.
Why worry about wire taps?
That takes a lot of work to set up.
Much easier just to activate your cell phone remotely and use it as the bug/microphone.
If you have a cell phone made in the last say 4 years it has enhanced 911, just like "OnStar" were always on.
Say thank you Chuckie Shurmmer!
t/y Chuckie Shurmmer! (I never voted for him btw)
Pos for that.
Uh, maybe he doesn't have anything to hide (?)
Uh, maybe he doesn't have anything to hide (?)
If you think you are being wiretapped, I am Ghandi. News flash you are not that important
Neither are you, & I never said I was being wiretapped, that went over your head. So what's your point? You covering up for this administration? You saying that they don't indulge in that at all? What're you dense? Muhatma?
It's not you that's important, but the words you choose. Scanning is done digitally.
"Echelon is widely believed to be a satellite-based espionage network capable of monitoring worldwide communications. It is reportedly managed by the United States and shared with other English-speaking countries. An electronic intercept program, Echelon is said to scan all Internet traffic, cell phone conversations, faxes, and long-distance telephone calls. Through a filtering process, it searches electronic communication for key words that indicate evidence of terrorist activity, military threats, and international crime.
While U.S. authorities have never officially admitted to its existence, a European Parliament investigative committee has concluded that Echelon is real. It is reportedly aimed primarily at communications occurring between people in the United States and other countries."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,61844-page,1/...
Y'know injest, and skeek? Things have certainly gone hi-tech since I was a P.I. years ago.
Thanks to such technology the right to privacy is now an urban myth from a bygone era.
Right to privacy? Can you point this out in the Constitution? Anyone that ever thought a telephone was private is ignorant. Never talk about things on the phone you wouldn't want to be heard. That's nothing new. I've lived that way my whole life.
Why? You got something to hide Argodumbya?
How many phone calls do you make to terrorist organizations outside this country? Those are the ones being tapped.
.
Besides innocent civilians?
You are right. I am not important. I am not the one worried about being wiretapped.
Well you initiated the your comment by denigrating my importance it seems. It sounded like you were very condescending when I haven't done anything untowards you at all. As i recall you've done this before if I'm not mistaken. If you have a problem with me well, I guess that's what it is. You're problem.
My problem is Michelle can say what she said and no one calls her on it. And finally when someone does, hubby say leave her alone. He sent her out to speak on his behalf. She as Chealsa(sp) are fair game. Michelle is only 5 years older then me. She was not brought to this country chained in the hull of a ship. Her people were not given small pox laced blankets. Nor was she imprisoned because her race attacked Pearl. If that is what she thinks, I don't need her nor want her as a First Lady.
Dude don't go soft on me. I was looking forward to some heated exchanges with you. You flatter me. Explain this to me?? (As i recall you've done this before if I'm not mistaken.) Has someone been talking about me or am I reading into this??
Believe me Codi, I won't be 'soft' on you. As matter of fact, I'm gonna treat you like my old lady. You 're gonna get it good,stiff, and hard.
We will see who gets it!
It won't be me.
The more you talk, the dumber you sound.