CNN projects Obama clinches nomination »
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Sen. Barack Obama on Tuesday will pick up enough delegates to secure the Democratic presidential nomination, CNN projects, becoming the first African-American to lead a U.S. major-party ticket.
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david_nwpa2 months, 3 weeks ago
Congratulations to Senator Obama for securing the nomination. Let's see if he can bring about true change and unify the party in time for November. Not all Democrats are happy with this news. Expect a rocky road to the White House.
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Leemck022 months, 3 weeks ago
I hope we don't have people that will cut off their nose to spite their face. Obama did win with very little negative campaigning. If we can keep the nation's health in focus, we will be okay. Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Bill Russell and Tiger Woods on the image side but on the life and death side are Martin Luther King and not to mention the nation's military hero's that died in the name of freedom who are buried in segregated graves that faced America's criticism only to make this a better nation. Obama will do his share, I hope the people will too; it is in our children's interest.
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Neophile2 months, 3 weeks ago
You can watch Obama's victory speech here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xxa0ihsoiYI
Also, here's a pic of John McCain's rally space from last night. How cozy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mstyborski/2551093...
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NoSpinDave2 months, 3 weeks ago
And here is NSD taking a page from Neo and drive by neg'ing his comment (well actually, I guess I did comment).
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sir_samurai2 months, 3 weeks ago
And here's one from me-2-u, No-Spine-Dave just the same, 4 u and ur McLame (gee, did i misspell something..??.. arruug, my English...).
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
Your the last person that should ever speak about education. I doubt all that many people here think you have one yourself.
Oh my! Is that too personal? I meant it to be. Frankly you disgust me. And it isn't just a conservative liberal thing even. You NEVER have anything positive to say or ever admit you're wrong no matter how "educated" the facts given are. You continue to berate people just because of their political views. To you they do not even deserve to live in the same country. I am so very glad you are not in my area. Although I don't really consider myself a "liberal", if you got near me, I would like to see just exactly how you intend to actually do the "drop kicking". Then perhaps we could begin some serious education.
Now I know you and all your friends will jump to neg. this comment. I really don't care. My only purpose now is to annoy people like you. Until November it is the deliberate and determined finger in your face.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 3 weeks ago
I've got a finger for you right here, Libtard. You disgust me with our lack of facts. Posts of propaganda from the Huffinpuff Report don't constitute facts. Actually, your Lib buddies are into the serial negs. Brave boy threatening me on a message board. Your impotent rage amuses me, as does your impotent and unqualified candidate.
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
I like that...Libtard. The English language isn't good enough for you that you need to create nonsense words to insult people with. I have already said I don't consider myself a liberal so half the created term doesn't work very well for me. The second half wouldn't seem to work given my professional and academic credentials, GPA or membership in various honor societies. It doesn't matter where the fact presented to you come from, it never does. They can be right out of research journal. You know those terrible dry, peer reviewed sources used by most of the scientific community. Do you even read those (or can you comprehend them).
As for fingers, well mine is just as big as yours. And as for bravery there is no such thing out here in cyberland. To ACTUALLY threaten somebody, of course, could become a crime. I simply stated that if you and I were to somehow, somewhere meet, I would like to see your actual drop kick techniques first hand. I think it would be very ...interesting.
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
Now before this becomes an even larger p***ing contest with you or your thugs, I have no intention of spending money to come drive anywhere and I am not going to continue more of this here. If one of you really wants it bad enough come find me. Figure it out. Give me a call when you get to town.
I just wanted to face off and tell you what I think of you after reading your crap for months now and trying to hold back saying anything. But man you are a diseased individual.
You spew hate, loathing and anger so much, that I cannot imagine what kind of miserable existance you must actually make for yourself. Or for those around you.
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
Hypocrisy is a funny thing...best you look at your own. I do not even come close to the negative bombardment you levy on everyone in here. I have dealt with my own angers and hatred of things to the point becoming more open minded. When do you ever show the same kind of compassion toward an idea that is not in line with the redundant ideologies you are hopelessly mired in? Where is your growth potential or ability to change? When anyone in here talks about positive change or seems ready to help others, they get branded "liberal" or "socialist" like the term is spit out of your mouth with a distain normally reserved for serial rapists and child killers. (continued)
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
When I see people attacked simply because THEIR viewpoint points them towards something more in line with human interests, then you bet I get pretty pi**ed off. I spent a lot of time trying to defend that sort of thinking. Most "peaceful" people are easy targets to self interested, hate and fear mongers like yourself. Because of your own fears, you will attack first and listen never. And if it takes someone standing up to your constant form of bullying and intimidation, then I feel capable and willing..in any venue.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
Name calling, front page of the Lib playbook.
fear monger = favors a strong national defense and aggressively opposing international terrorism.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
Ideas don't need compassion. They need reasoned examination. Your idea of healthy change is a rejection of all traditional values.
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
Lets see the paper, bigmouth. You have an advanced degree in bullsh**. I will bet you don't have degree or even many classes in anything dealing with psychology, sociology, political science or human services. Do they give an advanced degree in Auto Shop?
You constantly refer to leftists, socialism, Bolshevik or some other form of historical governmental policy without even remotely having a handle on the concepts. Your so knowledgable on these things, tell us about them. Inform us of the history of them or the basis for the thinking behind them. What countries are based on them? What is the difference between a socialist state, a communist state and democracy?
As for me being a garden variety liberal, that is really interesting. I have tried seveal times to inform you of the difference between the nice liberals you attack and somebody like me. I consider myself a radical. You are best to stick with the nice liberals.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
Niimskull,
I have two graduate degrees in international economics and public administration and an undergraduate degree in both economics and poli. sci. Your stupid rant based on complete igorance of my educational background was a waste of keystrokes.
Progressive = employed Bolshevik
Radical = unemployed Bolshevik
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
Stop winking at me, sir simpleton. You work at Jiffy Lube? Explains a great deal.
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Niimki2 months, 3 weeks ago
Well unlike you rabid conservative drooling idiots, we don't mind sharing stuff.
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sir_samurai2 months, 3 weeks ago
LOL LOL LOL
Hey, Drip-Drop Dipstick is living proof that getting her GED from Special Ed can have anybody reading, dispite being an idiot !
LOL LOL LOL !
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sir_samurai2 months, 3 weeks ago
2008-06-05 19:45:45
".. I actually have multiple advanced degrees myself, Nimskull." (((Dipstick-a-Drip)))
"Nimskull"? You may have gotten *Auto Mechanics* and *HVAC Reparing* etc, from Special ED, but only a real idiot numbskull, ninny or nincompoop like you would call these "multiple advanced degrees myself" .. Drip, drip, drip..
LOL LOL LOL !
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
sir simpleton,
Dazzle us with some intelligence and stop posting, you goose-stepping libanazi lemming.
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jovial2 months, 3 weeks ago
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MilesAway2 months, 3 weeks ago
"Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States," Obama planned to say in a victory celebration in St. Paul, Minn., at the site of the convention that will nominate his Republican opponent in the fall, Sen. John McCain of Arizona.
And, I too, proudly can announced that my prediction, in form of art on theme "The Dark Road From Africa To White House", which was 2007 on exhibited in China, was correct. We are getting an African-American as a president of USA. Just check this link: http://www.haiyingart.com/BlackPresident.html
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david_nwpa2 months, 3 weeks ago
However, she does bring with her a wide assortment of credentials. Recall that as VP, her duties would be primarily in the Senate. She would be a reliable and valuable asset in a chamber in which she is already highly regarded. She did garner 18 million votes, and she does have considerable experience. She would be a valuable asset. Surely, she will not sink the party's chances in November, but many of her backers could end up staying home in November if she is snubbed.
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
david, here is one good reason I would not like to see Obama associate with the Clintons at all. Maybe these are coincidences, but all I know is that in 61 years, you can count on one hand the number of people I know who have died mysteriously.
http://www.w3f.com/patriots/bodies2.html
Just check out those links to see just how the friends of the Clintons have died.
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BronxBomber2 months, 3 weeks ago
Sort of like Kennedy when he picked LBJ as his running mate, could history repeat itself?
Gawd I hope not!
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blinkers2 months, 3 weeks ago
I've read that link, at length, ML2007, and checked other corroborating sources, and find it an immensely disquietening read -- especially as it is presented in largely undramatic dispassionate form.
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blinkers2 months, 3 weeks ago
The list, once verified, has ALWAYS given clear thinkers reason for pause. If HRC had somehow won the Democratic nomination you can bet it would figure even more in my evaluations.
And regarding any prospective VP, since I trust that Obama would be a far more responsible president than the present incumbent, any VP would not have the degree of free access to executive authority that the present incumbent has had.
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
Slate, what are you talking about? I am not a Democrat. I am an Independent. I felt the same way about the list when I first learned about Bill and Hillary Clinton. I voted for Bill the first term and not the second term. I wouldn't vote for Hillary for dog catcher, and McCain is right below her. They both represent the status quo, and I believe neither can be trusted. By my own words, I cannot prove that the Clintons are responsible for any of the violence represented in those lists. In the case of Obama, I would risk the chance even as small as it is that they might not be true.
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
Slate, what are you talking about? I am not a Democrat. I am an Independent. I felt the same way about the list when I first learned about Bill and Hillary Clinton. I voted for Bill the first term and not the second term. I wouldn't vote for Hillary for dog catcher, and McCain is right below her. They both represent the status quo, and I believe neither can be trusted. By my own words, I cannot prove that the Clintons are responsible for any of the violence represented in those lists. In the case of Obama, I would risk the chance even as small as it is that they might not be true.
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
Slate, what are you talking about? I am not a Democrat. I am an Independent. I felt the same way about the list when I first learned about Bill and Hillary Clinton. I voted for Bill the first term and not the second term. I wouldn't vote for Hillary for dog catcher, and McCain is right below her. They both represent the status quo, and I believe neither can be trusted. By my own words, I cannot prove that the Clintons are responsible for any of the violence represented in those lists. In the case of Obama, I would risk the chance even as small as it is that they might not be true.
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CRYMTYPHON2 months, 3 weeks ago
ML2007, say it openly or drop it.
You think the Clintons kill people?
That is very silly.
They are the two most investigated people on the planet;
Clinton couldn't even keep a brief affair secret.
And when YOU count the number of people you know who have died 'mysteriously' you skip people you would say you DON'T know, - but a web site would point out you had met, or had been to school with, or worked with.
It's childs-play to make a kevin-bacon style list of connections between anyone, and something as vague as 'mysterious death'. Particularly for politicos who network with thousands of people.
I say this as a fierce Obama supporter; this type of insane rumour is the sort of thing Hillary has had to put up with for YEARS; it makes us admire her.
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
Not true in any of your accusations. An insane rumor? I said it may all be coincidence, but I doubt your naive response really includes people that I have just met through the years. Yes, I do agree with you that politicos network with thousands of people, but if you read any of the links, you would know the people that mysteriously died were people who were more than passing acquaintances and must be counted in such gross misrepresentation or insane rumors you incorrectly allude to.
Besides, Hillary lost. She is not and shouldn't dictate to Obama who the VP is or his cabinet should be. If he gives in to her demands from weakness, I won't vote for him. As to your ludicrous statement I am a fierce Obama supporter, I am a Libitarian with a Populist flare, and I think Obama is only an outside chance at real change. I see McCain and Hillary as the status quo and more of GWB and fascism. If Obama fails to deliver, I suspect a revolution.
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CRYMTYPHON2 months, 3 weeks ago
No, I said I was the fierce Obama supporter, I did not say you were.
ML2007, I always* agree with your posts; but you can not say someone might-sorta be a murderer, don't-know-for-sure but here is a list someone made,
- and so they should not be VP.
That is not rational argumentation.
It's what the clinton bashers perfected in the 90's; they piled up so much stuff against them, that even though you could pick any of it up and see it as nonsense, the shear weight of accusation made people say 'where there is smoke, must be fire'; some of it must be true.
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*almost
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ML20072 months, 3 weeks ago
My apologies for the misunderstanding, it was my fault I misread your statement. I do agree with you that people use those kind of tactics to spread misinformation about people, but I spent an enormous amount of time chasing those stories down, and frankly, there are just too many coincidences for these two people to be exposed to. You are right. I can't openly accuse them of murder, but I can allow the circumstances to effect how I view them. Too, I asked myself if such a thing can be done to a Jimmy Carter, and I have my doubts. I voted for Bill Clinton knowing part of this and giving him the benefit of the doubt, but after eight years in the White House, I was not too impressed with him or Hillary. I don't think he was a bad President though. I was disappointed he lied under oath when he should have done what his daughter did and told everyone his sex life was none of our business. I would not want Hillary as VP under any circumstances.
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questionseverything2 months, 3 weeks ago
with 4/5 dollar a gallon gas,dems wont stay home in nov and they surely wont vote for mcsame
hillary can be very important bringing the dems together...if she doesnt she will ruin the clinton name for chelsea
we need senators like hillary,working with obama to get us healthcare,end this war in iraq,and rebuild the job base
in fact as obama is selecting his vp and cab i hope he doesnt pick too many senators because i dont want to lose any senate seats.....
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capecoralM2 months, 3 weeks ago
With a $3.1 Trillion budget proposal, taxes at $.50 per dollar of Americans income and Medicare/cade and Social Security in financial turmoil and slatted for bankruptcy how will the government under Obama pay for a $Trillion plus per year health program? Many have made the case that the Government policies and programs are the cause (not the solution) for health care cost escalation in the current system. Perhaps if the Government would stick to it's constitutional responsibilities and get out of the way of Doctors and Oil Companies those industries will see cost reductions in those industries.
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RickyDawkins2 months, 3 weeks ago
"how will the government... pay for a health program?"
Easy. Just take a few bucks away from the "Defense" budget.
http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_...
Perhaps if the Government would stick to it's constitutional responsibilities and stop wasting our tax dollars trying to conquer the Middle East...
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slate2 months, 3 weeks ago
99Perhaps if the Government would stick to it's constitutional responsibilities and stop wasting our tax dollars trying to conquer the Middle East...00
I think I recall that the Constitution says something about protecting against our enemies foreign and domestic. All that other stuff wasn't in the Document I read, but hey I'm not as smart as the rest of you guys!
If the Government would stick to the constitution (which includes a strong military like it or not), and not being a nanny state, they would need so much less of our money.
Yeah I know, I'm heartless and all the other usual things but think about it, when people had money they actually took care of the poor without the government's help.
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slate2 months, 3 weeks ago
Not that all programs are bad, because I don't believe that to be true. But you know we can use a little common sense and cut back in these hard times, even the military. But out of all the programs, the military is the only one that is specifically (inferred) in the Constitution.
I'm still waiting on the 'temporary' income tax that was to go no higher than 2% to end.
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quillyregnold2 months, 3 weeks ago
Indeed capedcoralcrusader,
Perhaps if Georgie boy wasn't in bed with the oil companies the war wouldn't have happen at all. Or didn't you think about that...Opps you voted for Bush, I forgot you don't think!
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TimALoftis2 months, 3 weeks ago
This was a historical night and one that America should never forget. The first African American nominated by a major political party for President Of The United States of America. I am very proud today not only for Senator Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton but also in the Democratic Party as a whole. The party offered us a African American, a Women, a Hispanic and a half dozen other very well qualified candidates all competing for the top job in our land. It does not get any better and more diverse than this.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 3 weeks ago
The other historical precedent is that that last Democratic candidate to barely squeak out the nomination in such a hotly contested nomination race was Gary Hart. Anyone remember him?
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DropkickaLib2 months, 3 weeks ago
Nah! Reagan was the MAN and would have crushed him too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bill-smith2 months, 3 weeks ago
I bet the fact that Gary Hart was the Democratic nominee for President comes as a bit of a surprise to Ronald Reagan's supporters, Walter Mondale, George H. W. Bush, Michael Dukakis, everyone that was alive and voted in either of those contests, and Gary Hart.
Good research there. Top notch.
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bill-smith2 months, 3 weeks ago
Spin away all you want. You can't change the fact that you said:
The other historical precedent is that that last Democratic candidate to barely squeak out the nomination in such a hotly contested nomination race was Gary Hart. Anyone remember him?
That's what you said, verbatim. Your statement proves you really have no clear understanding of what you're trying to be clever with. Maybe you should think before you speak - emphasis on before. It couldn't hurt you any.
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DropkickaLib2 months, 2 weeks ago
So you had no point. Got it. Thanks for the confirmation.
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cushi2 months, 3 weeks ago
She doesn't have to be his VP to be an asset. The test of her sincerity will be if he does not pick her. We'll see how much she's for party unity then. I no longer trust Hillary to do the right thing. She has stooped lower than a snake's belly too many times throughout this competition.
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Blackacereturn2 months, 3 weeks ago
As an African American I would be remiss if I didn't say thanks to all Americans for make what I thought impossible a reality. When this all started I said that Whites will never vote for a black man. The is no one happier today to be so wrong about this feelings. To quote Michelle Obama "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
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cushi2 months, 3 weeks ago
As an African American who never doubted that the number of fair-minded people of all colors STILL outweighs the narrow-minded bigots (a breed that's dying, but fighting it tooth and nail). My sister went for Hillary, because she felt the same way, that it was unrealistic to believe he could actually be successful given this country's history. I think that the reason I knew in my heart this time would be different is that Obama is different. He is a mixture of the best of both worlds in his character and his carriage. He is also blessed with the right combination of grit and humility, compassion and passion. I truly have excellent instincts when it comes to judging character, and I recognized that in him immediately. Not to give too much credit to my instincts, however, the bigger thing is that I prayed, long, hard, sincerely, that God give us the candidate this country needs for this critical time, and I trusted that He would do just that. He has delivered.
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Blackacereturn2 months, 3 weeks ago
I wish you the best of luck cutting your nose to spoil your face. Smart on your part!
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Dionys2 months, 3 weeks ago
"As an African American I would be remiss if I didn't say thanks to all Americans for make what I thought impossible a reality. When this all started I said that Whites will never vote for a black man. "
He's not a black man. He's a black man and a white man. Half of each, last time I checked. I, too, think it's wonderful that some Americans (at least half, I would hope) are blind to race when it comes to chosing someone on their merits.
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cushi2 months, 3 weeks ago
Dionys, there is not question but that what you've said is true, but this world we live in is not color blind - not yet! It is a work in progress. Meanwhile, there are still, sadly, those who cannot see past the fact that Barack Obama has black/African blood in his veins. They do not judge him on his merits, but by his shade and his roots. They are not progressed past the point of the slave mentality, and cannot even acknowledge his white heritage because they believe it has been "tainted." To people who think that way, he is black and needs to get back, and there's no reasoning with them. I wonder if they got to the pearly gates and found a black Jesus standing there, if they would voluntarily go to hell rather than enter...it is so sad. I saw a woman like that on CNN today. Asked if she would vote for Barack, she said, no. Why: I don't think this country is ready for a black president. Who will you vote for? Sadly: John McCain. I don't want a black president.
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questionseverything2 months, 3 weeks ago
walden..there is actually no proof that haters will come out more than hopers
look at mcsames rally yesterday with about 600 peops compared to obamas 30 thousand,look at the small venues hillary has had to go to to give the appearance of "having a crowd"
is it a coincidence that hillary only won when the votes were counted by "blackboxes"?
every time the peops were standing right there and there was no way to "rig" obama won
last night on msnbc buchcanan said...whats wrong with obama? he draws these huge crowds and still cant win?
i wonder when the msm might ask>whats wrong with the system.....when polls,huge crowds dont add up to a win for that candidate?
2000 was stolen when the votes were not counted,lance dehaven smith wrote a book that proves it
a new book witness to a crime proves 2004 was stolen in ohio
if we dont want to be reading the same book in 2009 we better wrap our heads around the idea of turning out 10 to 1 for obama
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slate2 months, 3 weeks ago
There are those that race is a problem,,,,, Democrats beware,,,,, there are those that don't see his color as a problem but see his policies as problems,,,,, please refrain from accusing everyone that votes against Obama of being racists. That act by you will further divide the nation not bring it together.
I'll keep my hope up on that one. I'll also keep an open mind, maybe O will convince me to vote for him, and if he wins I'll show him the due respect of the office he will hold, with the caveat that he retains that respect with his actions.
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