McCain, War Hero or Go-To Collaborator? »
Posted By populist 3 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsGlory Boys like John McCain rarely get a taste of the horror they inflict on others. Their suffering rarely extends beyond the high anxiety that they might get shot down and that some bombarded mob on the ground might take its revenge.
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jordan113 months, 3 weeks ago
I'm sorry McCain was a POW. I'm sorry about what he endured. I'm sorry that 58 thousand men died in Viet Nam. I'm sorry that my brother in law died of brain cancer from agent orange. I'm sorry a dear friend didn't come home. I'm sorry my brother came home a different man. I'm sorry for the homeless vets who were thrown away by their country. Hero's, all of them. Presidential? Probably not.
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aceofspades13 months, 3 weeks ago
Is this the ultra-left's version of swift boating? I am ashamed as one who embraces liberal ideals to be linked to those who would post this type of for no better term - CRAP- are we no better than the reactionaries who tried to destroy Kerry? - If this is the course to be taken by liberals I will be obliged to vote for McCain
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sinophil493 months, 3 weeks ago
ace - It is true that this article is probably just a smear article against McCain.
However, when the swiftboaters went to work against Kerry, Bush claimed he had nothing to do with it and refused to try to stifle them. He successfully had his cake and ate it too.
Although libs knew the swiftboaters were the radical, ultraconservative faction of the Republican party, we (I) voted against Bush not because of the sleaziness of the swiftboaters, but because we (I) disagreed with him on his policies, the Iraq war, etc.
So, regardless of the merits of this attack on McCain, I still would never vote for him because of his conservative record, his flip-flops, his famous bad temper.
Like Bush, I refuse to accept blame or guilt for the actions of the radical left. I will vote with my brain, my stand on issues. The radical left does not represent nor will they usurp my own judgment.
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injest3 months, 3 weeks ago
FTA
"His Vietnamese capturers soon realized their POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line of American military elites. McCain's father, John Jr., and grandfather, John Sr., were both full Admirals. A destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, is named after both of them."
OMFingG! this is Fing amazing!
Not that the Vietnamese capturers knew who his father was, but the whole time travel thing!
Yes time travel, See the USS John S. McCain was commissioned July 1994!
USS John S. McCain (DDG-56)
The ship is named after John S. McCain, Jr. and John S. McCain, Sr., both Admirals in the United States Navy.
Ordered: December 13, 1988 Laid down: September 3, 1991 Launched: September 26, 1992 Commissioned: July 2, 1994
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injest3 months, 3 weeks ago
Wayyyy too many movies
How many movie plots has this guy strung together for his "story" bout his father?
Master Sergeant Harry Blackman, an adult man in his forties, regular army, a grizzled combat veteran.
The Big Red 1, Platoon, Apocalypse Now, FMJ?
You folks are gullible. LOL
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donald513 months, 3 weeks ago
All those swiftboat commercials had former air force pilots condemning Kerry too! People who bomb indiscriminantly from afar and never have to look the guy (or innocents) in the eye that they are killing should not be allowed to comment on those that have. Damn republican un-americans!
Then for McCain to flip flop on his own Anti-torture Bill after being put on Cheney's carpet... the man has no values and his conscience has failed!
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browntiger3 months, 3 weeks ago
>What about Obama who NEVER served this country in any capacity what-so-ever.
Yes repukes he did not serve in armed forces. Claiming "no capacity what-so-ever" is just nasty repuking trick.
Performing public service - is serving the country. Funny you did not make that argument about cheney? Or your AWOL king of idiots Bush.
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NoWayMan3 months, 3 weeks ago
and besides the anti-torture bill, there's the new GI Bill.
seems McCain would be all for helping our men and women in uniform get the best education possible. and thats quite an insult to our brave soliders that he refuses to support the new bill.
McCain cites poor retention and high costs for his lack of support for the new GI Bill, but all the studies have shown those fears simply aren't real.
and if McCain is realy worried about poor retention and high costs, then he should want to get out of Iraq asap. Being in Iraq has done more to hurt military retention and more to raise the costs of running the military than anything a new GI Bill could ever do.
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injest3 months, 3 weeks ago
"All those swiftboat commercials had former air force pilots condemning Kerry too!"
Yep all those Air Force, Navy, Army and Marines who listen to Kerry's BS Winter Soldier statements condemned Kerry.
Guess what millions of us condemn Kerry for his BS Winter Soldier statements.
We SAW the video! We read the transcript! We followed up on the claims
KERRY LIED!
All that mattered was his Winter Soldier statements/actions. Every thing else was opinion.
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donald513 months, 3 weeks ago
The greatest killer of our guys on the battlefield is ... our own Air Force! Read Crusade by Atkinson... Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan... the bombing of our fellow Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in a publicized no fly zone... so many examples...
Funny thing though is that the Repugs discourage anti-fratricide efforts... I know this from personal experience. Even now the Army ignores the joint doctrine for responsibility for anti-fratricide efforts!
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donald513 months, 3 weeks ago
The greatest killer of our guys on the battlefield is ... our own Air Force! Read Crusade by Atkinson... Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan... the bombing of our fellow Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in a publicized no fly zone... so many examples...
Funny thing though is that the Repugs discourage anti-fratricide efforts... I know this from personal experience. Even now the Army ignores the joint doctrine for responsibility for anti-fratricide efforts!
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donald513 months, 3 weeks ago
The greatest killer of our guys on the battlefield is ... our own Air Force! Read Crusade by Atkinson... Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan... the bombing of our fellow Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in a publicized no fly zone... so many examples...
Funny thing though is that the Repugs discourage anti-fratricide efforts... I know this from personal experience. Even now the Army ignores the joint doctrine for responsibility for anti-fratricide efforts!
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donald513 months, 3 weeks ago
The greatest killer of our guys on the battlefield is ... our own Air Force! Read Crusade by Atkinson... Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan... the bombing of our fellow Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in a publicized no fly zone... so many examples...
Funny thing though is that the Repugs discourage anti-fratricide efforts... I know this from personal experience. Even now the Army ignores the joint doctrine for responsibility for anti-fratricide efforts!
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Goppy3 months, 3 weeks ago
But ani .... LOL ... just a few months ago ... YOU were leadin the charge in disparagin Johnnys patriotism.
*sigh*
It is so difficult to be a loyal Republican ... I mean ... we are ALL OVER THE PLACE!
In fact, I was one of the few Popillerites who was defendin Johnny for his POW tenure. I simply refuse to lower myself to the lowest standards so often exhibited by my fellow Christian Conservatives.
Liek the Swift Boat attack on a brave soldier ... John Kerry.
Liek the Rush Limbaugh attack on soldiers that dont support Goerge Ws omnisience in warfare.
I must say, we Christian Conservatives are bout as straight and true as the Devils Backbone. And bout just as honest.
We will say anything .... LITERALLY ANYTHING .... if it means it scores points against an opposition candidate. Now if that aint Moral Vacancy ... I just dont know what qualifies.
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bruhaha3 months, 3 weeks ago
And how dare people who didn't serve with kerry say that he didn't earn his medals. Hypocrite.
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