A totally lawless regime »
Posted by: jovial 2 months, 2 weeks agoThink about this question: In the 21st century what regime is more lawless than the Bush Regime?
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jovial2 months, 2 weeks ago
Just some food for thought. An economy that is broken, a war that is unwinnable by conventional definition, global warming and enrgy costs spiraling. On top of that our government is broken. They tell us what we need. They tell us what we want. They continue to do exactly whatever they want regardless of public opinion on the matter. Can anyone point out the silver lining in all of this?
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Spadecaller2 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks jovial; good article.
FTA:
"The Bush regime has created enormous hatred and disrespect for the United States. A recent worldwide poll found that George W. Bush ranks at the bottom of world leaders as one of the least trusted, along with US Pakistani puppet Musharraf and the Iranian president, Ahmadinejad ..."
Considering that even centrist Republicans and Democrats have recently opted to characterize the Bush regime as an "imperial" presidency, I feel quite justified for my comments that I made back in 2006, when I called Bush a nazi.
I described him that way for several reasons: waging an unjustified war, unwarranted militarism, defying the Geneva Convention, using secret POW camps, obstructing justice, dismantling constitutional rights, suspending Habeas Corpus, and use of toture.
With his politicization of the justice department, globalization, corporate fascism, and corrupted elections, we have lost our representative democracy.
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Spadecaller2 months, 2 weeks ago
When I made those commments on Propeller (Netscape) back in the winter of 2006, I got a lot of nasty emails and comments from the neocons. One of my most favorite neocons on Propeller (sarcasm) replied, "Hmmmm if Bush is Hitler then he needs to fire up the furnaces,,,, seems to be lots of cord wood around LOL."
That made it clear to me that these last defenders of Bush are the kind who support hate groups like Stormfront and the KKK. There are certainly no mainstream supporters of Bush remaining;just weak-minded sycophants, disloyal profiteers, and bigotted sociopaths.
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jovial2 months, 2 weeks ago
No doubt. Know thy enemy. I go to a few of the radical hate sites form time to time to check up on what they are saying. White supremacist, White power, etc. A lot of Propeller members that comment on the conservative side have views that are exactly the same. The only thing is that they have become more sneaky about it. Instead of coming straight out with their hate, they never mention it directly. They skirt around the issue and try to reflect it back at you when they are challenged as racists.
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cowboygrandpa2 months, 2 weeks ago
Spadecaller:
I still receive grief over calling Bush a Nazi.
I know that his actions have shown what he is. If others want to follow that sick excuse of a leader it is more of a condemnation of their beliefs than mine.
They want to argue with me because they can't stand to have put out in print what it is they follow.
It hurts them so much they must argue to prove they are right.
Now here is the sad part. Why in the world would you defend your beliefs that nobody has to know about, unless you are convicted in your heart that you are wrong. And not being able to accept being wrong want to lash out at the messenger to try and make them take back what they said.
How many fools in this world today still believe hitler and mussolini were right? Take a look at the White House you'll see a few there.
For those of you offended that I didn't capitalize hitler and mussolini. I'm glad to have offended you. They don't warrant capitalization.
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bubba22 months, 2 weeks ago
"If Americans return a Republican regime, Americans will validate the right of the president to violate with impunity US and international law. Americans will validate the use by the president of the United States of deception and lies in order to initiate wars of aggression, aggression that is a war crime under the Nuremburg standard established by the US. Americans will validate the infringement of US civil liberties in the name of "safety" and "national security." Americans will disembowel the US Constitution and leave themselves at the total mercy of the government."
"Reelecting Republicans means the end of the United States as a land of liberty."
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bubba22 months, 2 weeks ago
"The House Democrats, led by "impeachme... Nancy Pelosi, added to the Democratic Party's shame by passing a bill that shields from punishment the criminal Bush regime and the telecommunications corporations that the Bush regime coerced into committing felonies under US law by cooperating in Bush's illegal spying on American citizens."
"The great hope of the Founding Fathers, the people's house, the House of Representatives, has passed an unconstitutional retroactive law making acts legal which were illegal when they were committed."
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bubba22 months, 2 weeks ago
"The total collapse of the Democratic Party and the House of Representatives signals the end of liberty and democracy in America. Henceforth, led by the Republican Federalist Society, we will gravitate toward the beautiful regime of "energy in the executive" that has been achieved in Zimbabwe by Robert Mugabe."
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berkeley2 months, 2 weeks ago
there's a scene in the film - a man for all seasons - that burned itself into my memory:
Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?
This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down (and you're just the man to do it!), do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then?
Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
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simonsez2 months, 1 week ago
Craig Roberts is a fool ...
It's no wonder you guys can't get any traction in your criticisms. You somehow feel compelled to distort something to the point that it becomes ridiculous.
Whose worse The United States of America or Zimbabwe????
Okay ... now come back with your rationalization for such a statement.
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Poulenc2 months, 2 weeks ago
Spade: "...we have lost our representative democracy...."
Yes, that's the infuriating heart of the matter.
The thing, I think, that's proven to be most demoralizing over the last extremely demoralizing eight years is the sense that the country is being run by a kind of junta--a take-over government that answers to know one but itself (and the lobbyists and other special interests who help steer its policies).
And we've felt powerless to stop it's destructive course.
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bamababy2 months, 1 week ago
Agreed, The time is NOW for the AMerican people to make a statement to the world that GWB is not represenative of who we are as a nation. We beleive him to be a war criminal who abused constitutional,military and international laws. We will not reelect another republican, will not happen. History will show Bush and Co. and all their deceptions for all to see. They, I'm afraid are the beginning of the end of America as we knew it. Home of the brave and the land of the free. I guess if your president Bush, your free, free to make up the rules as you go along to suit your fancy of the day. Rise up and take back the country. Revolution.
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Natureboy2 months, 1 week ago
Rather, we are beginning to become aware of the fact that "representative democracy" is a non sequitur. Always has been. What we have is the working class appointing elites to serve the elites. And once they have gotten our votes, they have everything they need from us for the next four years. At the end of the four years, they put on their bullsh!t hats again and lie to us, and we vote for them, knowing they are evil, but rationalizing that one of them is slightly less evil.
It is a disgrace. Let's have an end to it.
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Tcaros2 months, 1 week ago
When it comes down to it dictators are usually cowards. They have others do their bidding and bullying for them. They end up dying in cowardly ways; think of Hitler or Saddam Hussein. Hitler committed suicide in a bunker and Hussein was found in a frog hole and later hanged.
I wonder what is to be said of Bush who has the lowest approval rating of any President. He's attempted to destroy our form of government with "legal opinions" and "signing statements."
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donald512 months, 1 week ago
since the repugs have been so lock step supportive of Dumya for going on 8 years... they must be considered a terrorist party to be banned in America!
We need the Fairness Act! We need teh Truth in Telecommunications Act. We need to stop the hate networks that only further polarize Un-American behaviour, behaviour contrary to the Constitution, the Declaration of Independance and the Gettysburg Address!
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jovial2 months, 1 week ago
Please check out my other post, because it ties into this. You can find it at..
http://money.propeller.com/story/2008/06/24/the...
It's a compelling read. It certainly opened up my eyes.
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nikkibabe2 months, 1 week ago
He is able to stay lawless and continue with the help of Republicans in Congress.
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Natureboy2 months, 1 week ago
Don't be fooled into thinking Bush is an anomaly. He is just less skilled in selling the program to the American people.
Clinton was much more skilled. Clinton waged war, deployed depleted uranium weapons, assaulted the Bill of Rights with "anti-terrorism" legislation, gutted welfare, and people lapped it up.
Same agenda, better marketing.
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simonsez2 months, 1 week ago
Perhaps the base problem is putting too much faith in government. As Nancy Pelosi has said, Washington DC is the city of the "status quo" and there is enormous presssures not to change.
If Obama wins, very little will change, but the media will tell us things are getting better.
Psychology of the country may be more important than the facts.
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emailkyloe2 months, 1 week ago
Here you have a country thats peak short term potential has been actualized. From even the majority of the proletariat and the middle class citizens including likewise vested interests, all in disunion deeming that such transient policies directly inhibit their universal well being.
When trying to promulgate these concerns to any direct or indirect congenator can only be perceived as in vain of any of the 'officials' or non-officials, whom will only repudiate all such individual attempts of subversion.
So never mind counting the calories on your big mac, there does exist such universal mammoth concerns.
Whether a Stale Mate in silver lining or a golden age of change, eventually only one will give way...
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Dicax_Maximus2 months, 1 week ago
OK, so I'm gonna go against this....
To ask what regime is more lawless than the US (although the article did mention Zimbabwe) is pathetic in the extreme...
Just as well the author of this diatribe doesn't live in the Congo, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan etc etc etc....
This is crap, sunk as such....
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