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A watchdog group filed complaints with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and the Senate Ethics Committee Wednesday against Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama over a discounted mortgage he received from Northern Trust.

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libsRfunny6 months ago

The more you learn about him, the sleazier Obama becomes.
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  pc256 months ago
  
  Jesus......the liebrals practically tarred and feathered me over the story I posted about his getting preferential rate on his mortgage and now this......ROFLMAO
  http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/07/02/...
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    DropkickaLib6 months ago
    
    Obama is a Chicago Dem machine politician. There's nothing new or uncorrupted about him.
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      Teech6 months ago
      
      Hey, go for it! Get Ken Starr on it, give him a billion dollars or two or three and have a typical Repuke investigation.
      I'll bet instead of shredding his files or erasing his tapes, he'll let an investigator go through the whole transaction and find some good. ol' fashioned competition between lenders.
      If he's guilty of breaking the law, lying, or obstructing justice, he'll have even more solid qualifications to be Dumbya's successor.
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        donald516 months ago
        
        Teech, after all the lies of Bill clinton's corruption upheld by the right, but totally unsubstantiated by 7 years of investigation by Ken starr... all the repugs could blow up was an illicit affair... truly the Repugs have no scruples at all! The true party of terrorism, the repugs, what do you expect?
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        I pay 4.8% and 5.1% on my two houses. I got a better rate than Obama. Guess the right wing funded judicial legal attack dogs will be filing on me as well.
        Until cons have all the money (already done) and all the power...control the senate....they will never rest.
        350 million dollar retirement bonus to the CEO of exon in 2006, that's ok, but let obama recieve a half a percent discount on a mortgage, OMG.
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        UnusualSuspect6 months ago
        
        Looks like a non-story to me. There's no date as to when the mortgage was received...a year or two ago the rates might have been lower than the 5.625 he got for a single-family residence.
        I just went to www.bankrate.com to check out mortgage rates for my area.
        Now, many bankers/lenders have a range of programs, that offer a range of interest rates, as well. It's quite easy to shop around, and one can get a few rates even lower than the standard range shown, if one were to look around further and deeper.
        It could possibly be Obama, or his accountant/mortgage lender looked around for the best rate; there's no way of telling that, of course. Had he looked deeper, an even lower rate might have been gotten.
        I think this "story" has come to light only because donations from the lender's employees to the Obama campaigns were $71,000...
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        UnusualSuspect6 months ago
        
        A side note...
        If you substituted McCain for Obama in what I wrote above, I would feel exactly the same way.
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        Georgia506 months ago
        
        Agreed. Non story. It's likely Obama was flush with cash and was able to qualify for the lower rate. Average mortgage rates presuppose average down payments. I think JW should have given the senator the courteous option of explaining the loan before trying to hype a story.
        Plus, you could open beer bottles in the butt cracks of NT execs. They're as tight and conservative as they come, financially speaking. Those...I won't say bastards but just short of it...wouldn't extend favorable rates to their own mothers.
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        miklkit6 months ago
        
        A year or two ago the rates in my area were 4% or less.In 2002 they were around 6%.
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      Sabretooth6 months ago
      
      Best news yet, let us hope they can find some corruption on him so he might garner more of the republican vote.
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        DropkickaLib5 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        He won't get the Republican vote but there's plenty of Saudi money coming in through Obama's website and the corrupt DNC leadership backs him.
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  Dionys6 months ago
  
  You don't learn anything about Obama in this article. Just that someone filed a complaint.
  I could just as easily file a civil lawsuit suing you for molesting my goat.
  That wouldn't say anything about you. Or would it?
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    libsRfunny6 months ago
    
    You molest goats?
    Obviously, you haven't been following this issue, but you've proven to be willfully ignorant before.
    I guarantee if it were McCain and not Obama, you and the rest of your rabidly liberal buddies would be all over it. It'd probably be pinned as a story recommended by anchors.
    Now, I could have posted the much more biased story where I first saw it, but unlike you libs, I prefer using as unbiased a source as possible, so I posted the one from The Hill.
    
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      libsRfunny6 months ago
      
      I could have posted this one instead ...
      http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/...
      "As noted in the complaints, Northern Trust has supported Barack Obama's political campaigns for elected office since 1990. In addition to the $71,000 Northern Trust employees have donated to Obama, the Northern Trust political action committee gave $1,250 to Senator Obama's 2004 campaign for the United States Senate."
      "According to Judicial Watch, Northern Trust Vice President John O'Connell essentially admitted the company provided Obama preferential loan terms because of his position in the U.S. Senate:
      "'A person's occupation and salary are two factors; I would expect those are two things we would take into consideration,' O'Connell told The Washington Post. 'This was a business proposition for us.'"
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        libsRfunny6 months ago
        
        "'Americans ought to be suspicious when a United States Senator such as Barack Obama, obtains a sweetheart mortgage deal,' said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. 'We have serious concerns that Senator Obama's mortgage may have violated the law and Senate ethics rules.'"
        "Obama has tried to spin his questionable mortgage deal as nothing more than the lender competing for Obama's business:
        "'Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the rate was adjusted to account for a competing offer from another lender and other factors.'
        "I'm still worried about those 'other factors' and 'other opportunities.' Those 'factors' and 'opportunities' could be anything, including special access to a grateful U.S. Senator or a President."
        
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        CHAM6 months ago
        
        Obama gets a lower interest rate than most and you have great distress that a Senator would stoop, yes stoop so low as to get an interest rate lower than say McCain.
        I'll be watching for your blast of McCain for being one of the Keating Five who swindled the American Public of around two Billion dollars. Yeah that's the same McCain whos wife and father in law took hundreds of Thousands from Keating himself.
        And oh yes, the same McCain that has Carl Linder on his side, you know that Carl Linder who deals in Arms and Ammo to the Columbian group AUC who are fighting the FARC for control of the Columbian Drug Trade, you know good old Carl who is McCains Campaign Manager in Ohio and one of his major Financial backers, and Doug Goodyear, McCains choice for Chairman of the upcoming Republican Convention, yeah Doug in bed with the major Oil Corporations who are as we speak working mightily to steal Iraq's Oil - I'm running out of characters literally and figuratively - Continued
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        CHAM6 months ago
        
        Then there's Charlie Black - You remember him - McCains "Senior Adviser" - friend to some of the worlds most dispicable dictators and mass murders, remember him?
        But as you might have implied, there ain't nuthin worse than gettin a low interest rate.
        Meanwhile look up what I've realated about your hero.
        
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        pc256 months ago
        
        yeah he got the loan after that he steered 3 million into Northern Trust.......his staff defended this as competition for business.......That's what's called a quid pro quo.....amazing that his staff is actually dumb enough to admit to a quid pro co.............
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        pc256 months ago
        
        forgot the url
        http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/07/02/...
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        questionseverything6 months ago
        
        how did he invest 3 mill with northern trust when he and wifey r only worth 1.2 mill?
        i better turn myself in to the feds cause my bank gives me perks for having my mortgage with em..free checking woooohooo
        neocons r desperate when they start talking about mortgage interest rates...btw my neighbors interest rate is half % per cent lower than mine...where do i sign up to get him locked up?
        
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        pc256 months ago
        
        sounds corrupt doesn't it..........
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        pc256 months ago
        
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
        The New York Times ran an article on January 28, 2008 revisiting the scandal in addition to some other allegations of inappropriate behavior by McCain. Robert S. Bennett, whom McCain had hired to represent him in this matter, defended McCain's character and was one of many people who criticized the piece. Bennett, who was the special investigator during the Keating Five scandal that The Times revisited in the article, said that he fully investigated McCain back then and suggested to the Senate Ethics Committee not to pursue charges against McCain because of "no evidence against him."
        Let me repeat....THE SENATE ETHICS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DID NOT PURSUE CHARGES AGAINST McCAIN BECAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE...........that's LACK OF EVIDENCE...........
        
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      NoWayMan6 months ago
      
      read carefully. dionys said you molested the goat.
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        Dionys6 months ago
        
        They never read carefully. That's how Bush almost got re-elected.
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    pc256 months ago
    
    what we did lean is that there are people who think that this guy is corrupt and is a typical South Chicago, Mayor Daley, Democratic machine, Tammany Hall style politician, with all the patronage, kickbacks, greed and corruption associated with it.....that he is the nominee for the Democratic Party is laughable.....with all that is known about Obama now and if he were a Republican do you think the MSM would have allowed him to progress to this point.........that answer is an easy one.......
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      antibrainwasher6 months ago
      
      man, what a pantload. He actually earned a spot in harvard by studying and being brilliant, not drinking his way through the naval academy with an elitest father and graduating last in his class like McSenile, Obama went on to get a law degree and teach constitutional law.
      McCain dumped is first wife and mother of his children to marry a 100 million dollar liquor wife, and lobbist for the big liquor industry, voting time and again against the Mothers ADD initiatives.
      McCain; elitist son of a son of a admiral, military man, way to old to be effective, confusing Alkida with Arizona.
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        ghengisghan6 months ago
        
        McCain..the guy that has a son in Iraq in combat and another that may be soon.I dont like him politically but atleast he is sticking to his principles and not changing with every voter whim.
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        Tangent0016 months ago
        
        "...not changing with every voter whim."
        You mean like being against torture, then being for torture?
        You mean like being against tax cuts for the wealthy, then being for tax cuts for the wealthy?
        You mean like abandoning his own campaign finance reform?
        You mean like being against overturning Roe v. Wade then being for overturning Roe v. Wade?
        You mean like being against ethanol then being for ethanol?
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        Klarissa6 months ago
        
        Obama truths
        I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
        I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
        Father was a privileged, well educated youth who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
        I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-benen/jukeb...
        Jukebox John Keeps Changing His Tune
        It's obvious that the McCain campaign and the RNC have decided to go after Barack Obama as a flip-flopper. What's equally obvious, though, that Republicans couldn't have chosen a worse narrative.
        McCain & Co. seemed to stumble on this line of attack almost by accident. They'd experimented with a variety of memes in recent months, none of which had any real salience. The right settled on "flip-flopper," in large part because it's the closest available, already-written Republican narrative, and in part because McCain staffers haven't been able to think of anything else.
        The irony, of course, is that the McCain campaign couldn't have picked a more hypocritical line of attack. For John McCain to accuse anyone of excessively changing policy positions is a bit like George W. Bush attacking someone's grammar.
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        Or Dick Cheney whining about a political figure being overly secretive.
        After working on this project for a few months, I'm pleased to report that we now have a whopping 61 policy reversals from the Republican nominee. If McCain wants to argue that flip-flops are an example of a political leader who can't be trusted to keep his word or honor his commitments, McCain might as well drop out of the race now.
        
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        1. McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
        2. McCain insisted that everyone, even "terrible killers," "the worst kind of scum of humanity," and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, "deserve to have some adjudication of their cases," even if that means "releasing some of them." McCain now believes the opposite.
        3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."
        4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
        5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.
        6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He's since come to the opposite conclusion.
        
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        Foreign Policy
        7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.
        8. McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
        9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
        10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
        11. McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
        12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
        13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.
        
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        14. McCain recently claimed that he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course." In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."
        15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.
        16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."
        
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        17. McCain has repeatedly said it's a dangerous mistake to tell the "enemy" when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.
        18. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.
        Domestic Policy
        19. McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
        20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.
        21. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
        22. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
        
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        23. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
        24. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
        25. McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly." His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position
        26. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.
        27. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
        28. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.
        
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        Dionys6 months ago
        
        " McCain dumped is first wife and mother of his children to marry a 100 million dollar liquor wife, and lobbist for the big liquor industry, voting time and again against the Mothers ADD initiatives."
        You forgot when he dumped his first wife. During her treatments for cancer. What a sweetheart.
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        pc256 months ago
        
        a lot of viet vets dumped their wives...........
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        pc256 months ago
        
        here is something else for you to ponder.........
        http://smithfiles.com/2008/06/12/obama-received...
        Obama Received Affirmative Action To Attend Columbia
        Despite having admitted to daily smoking weed and smoking crack,Presidential candidate Obama still got admitted to Columbia University.
        According to Columbia records, Obama was admitted despite thirteen Whites, seven Asians and six Hispanics having better grades and being more qualified.
        According to admissions official Michael McHenry, "We were pressured to have Africans attend our university to get more government funds." "He (Obama) was obviously unqualified but we needed the funds from the government."
        
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        pc256 months ago
        
        http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan...
        Obama says he was still goofing off for the first two years of college, which he spent at Occidental in Los Angeles. He continued to play basketball, which friends say he is still quite good at, and was involved in other organized activities. He also spent "a lot of time having fun."
        so much for working hard
        brilliant?
        http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/adjunctprofs/2...
        Obama's vol. 104 is the least-cited volume of the Harvard Law Review in the last 20 years
        I've run electronic searches to determine the number of times Obama's volume 104, and every other volume of the Harvard Law Review published during the last 20 years, has been cited in all law reviews during each subsequent year for which full data is available (starting in the year after the last issue of each volume appeared, and running through 2006, the last year for which full citation data is currently available).
        
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      icono16 months ago
      
      The wife is the goat!
      hahahahahaha
      OR
      the goat is the wife!
      OH NO! Say it ain't so.
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        CactusAnnie6 months ago
        
        ...or ARE old goats... ;D
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      DaneL6 months ago
      
      You can marry your goat in California
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        Spinward6 months ago
        
        ...but only if the goat consents.
        Wedding photos, anyone?
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        Wolfie20076 months ago
        
        Hey Spin, good to see you back.
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        Spinward5 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        HEY WOLFIE!
        Good to be back. Six months in the third world.... WHEW!!!THANKS!
        
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      bigG6 months ago
      
      Good one Ranch.
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    TOD3966 months ago
    
    "I could just as easily file a civil lawsuit suing you for molesting my goat. "
    That would be pretty difficult to do, see as how you are usually always right behind your goat, or is that your wife?
    
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  donald516 months ago
  
  Libs, anything from you is an outright lie or deception...
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    Spinward6 months ago
    
    Believe this: If a Republican steered $3 million to a company and then got a discounted loan, the libs would be demanding his immediate resignation. But, it's ok for a Democrat to do the same thing and we should be ashamed for pointing it out.
    I'm starting to understand.
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      antibrainwasher6 months ago
      
      Believe this, this current rebublican regime is the most corrupt secretive regime ever to infest the white house, politicizing the justice department, no bid contracts to haliburton where cheney was CEO, 400 million to fund terrorism in Iran, trying to stirr up trouble to justify a massive bombing campaign, this a substitute for diplomacy, lying to start a neocon zionist fantasy nationbuilding Israel friendly war in Iraq and sending 4500 to death for a lie, 30,000 severly injured, 10 times that with PTS, enriching the military industrial complex, awarding Boeing with 100 BILLION dollar contract to devolop a missle shield defence which has been proven time and again to NOT WORK, and now installing that over massive protest in the Checz republic.
      And you are bitching like the republican shill you are, that Obama is only paying 5.3% on an intrest rate. McCain can pay cash for a million dollar house. Cindy McCain spends more that that on shoes and tips.
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        questionseverything6 months ago
        
        cindy mcsames teenager had a 50,000 dollar credit card balance last month...they live in a dif world...truely gramms remarks showed they r clueless
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        Spinward5 months, 4 weeks ago
        
        COMPLETELY sidestepping the point.
        Do you teach dance, by any chance?
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abntv6 months ago

Does anyone know who chairs the Senate Ethics Committee?
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  libsRfunny6 months ago
  
  Barbara Boxer
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    BB646 months ago
    
    Like it's going to go anywhere with her. Boxer was among the top 24 involved in the House bank scandal. On March 1, 1992 the Sacramento Bee quoted Boxer as admitting she didn't pay enough attention to her House bank account. More specifically, that meant 143 bad checks totaling $41,417 over a three-year period that she had written on the House bank.
    She's you're typical liberal Dem, who never votes outside of party lines. She would never go after the Messiah Obama. BTW-before you start with the talk radio attacks, my staff started calling him that last winter, way before.
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      capecoralM6 months ago
      
      Exactly: DEMOCRATS faced a sleaze scandal of their own after the FBI said yesterday that it had secretly filmed a New Orleans congressman accepting a bribe of $100,000 (Â£53,000), most of which was later found in his kitchen freezer.
      Jefferson was charged with a global campaign to solicit bribes, obstruct justice and engage in racketeering, Justice Department officials said Monday.
      â;; CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
      The man is still in office and has not even had a hearing in front of Boxer.
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        libsRfunny6 months ago
        
        The Dems are too busy beating a dead horse and whining about Rove not showing up for a subcommittee witch hunt to bother with real corruption and actually getting something done.
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        pc256 months ago
        
        amazing how they are skirting around every issue lately
        
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        pc256 months ago
        
        Congressman William "that's not my refrigerator" Jefferson
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        icono16 months ago
        
        Old Cold Cash Jefferson himself is innocent until proven guilty. That may take awhile.
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        Spinward6 months ago
        
        ...especially if Boxer is in charge of the inquiry as she only questions Republicans.
        That's ok though, because only Republicans are evil. Democrats are never guilty.
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        icono16 months ago
        
        Yes it would seem that the popular consensus is that all Nazi NeoCons ie Republicans are pure bile and evil while the all the Marxist Limo-Liberals ie Democrats are the sweet nectar of God's pure love.
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        donald516 months ago
        
        Hey, Jefferson is only one Dem on a list of 22 Most Corrupt Congressmen, with 18 being repugs, and dhte only senators being Repugs! Goggle CREW and see your hypocrisy!
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        capecoralM6 months ago
        
        So you are saying it is OK for a Democrat(ic) to take bribes because there is corruption in politics? OK
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        pc256 months ago
        
        http://www.redstate.com/stories/the_parties/dem...
        only part 1 bro
        
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        pc256 months ago
        
        http://patterico.com/2006/05/21/a-corrupt-democ...
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        antibrainwasher6 months ago
        
        pc25 republican shill: "amazing how they are skirting around every issue lately"
        you mean like Karl Rove skirting a congressional suppenoa? Like secret meetings of energy CEO's devising energy policy for the country and cheney refusing to divulge who they were? Like no bid contracts to Haliburton? Like Rove engineering the trumped up charges and imprisionment of a Governor of Alabama using a republican prosecution team he built? Like politicizing the justice department, firing judges who were prosecuting Republicans?
        amazing how short and meaningless and vacant your swiftboating lies have become pc.
        Vote republican, vote to have the great republican loyalist pc25 elevated to a policy making position in McSenile's army.
        
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        Dionys6 months ago
        
        "The Dems are too busy beating a dead horse and whining about Rove not showing up for a subcommittee witch hunt to bother with real corruption and actually getting something done."

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