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Posted By bigurn 2 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsTwo women interviewed by NPR say they are struggling to get a job, or get enough groceries to eat.
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bigurn2 months, 3 weeks ago
I noticed a few things as soon as I saw the picture. OK, #1-they've not missed a meal in a long time. That's easy. But note how the mother has not EVER held a job, and the daughter can't find a job even at a fast food restaurant.
This is the emotional ploy of the "single instance overcoming the policy". The people who advocate this position will say things like "Even if only 1 person.....". We should not be pulled by emotion to the point where a single example creates policy for everyone.
NPR seems to have a nack for the single example story, and uses it against the backdrop of U.S. policy.
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bigurn2 months, 3 weeks ago
And I guess that's my point, Klarissa. I serve on the Board of Directors for a non-profit that helps people rebuild after being down on their luck. We're building dorms so that families can temporarily have housing while they get back up on their feet.
Two rules: 1) everybody works. You don't work, you don't eat. 2) if you can't control your vices, you can live somewhere else. No drinking, no drugs, and smoking is outside (rain or shine).
We've helped over 100 families and another 50 individuals. We've had big burly men cutting worthless clothes into rags that we sell to local businesses for cleaning purposes. We now operate an eBay site for high-value donations that we sometimes receive.
These two probably wouldn't make it through the program. But they could, if they tried.
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Teech2 months, 3 weeks ago
ani! I'm shocked! Hillbilly *hore Hopper?
Quite creative, indeed. I do love it.
You may not have been "subjected to their stories" but surely you'll agree that Ken Starr subjected you to oh, so many more.
As for bigum: ..."We should not be pulled by emotion to the point where a single example creates policy for everyone." Even as a liberal, I couldn't agree with you more. But just as Rush, Sean, and Michael on Talk Radio have to do what they have to do to get listeners, so does NPR.
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aniokly2 months, 3 weeks ago
First of all these women have learned to live off the Government. No one could live on that much money. They must have side jobs. I assume they could baby sit, or clean houses. They obviously need the exercise. Is there no public transportation? Are we supposed now to buy them a car? I am not impressed with people who allow themselves to be exploited for a few bucks. If they didn't get paid for the interview they are stupid, as well as lazy.
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Klarissa2 months, 3 weeks ago
there is a man here who was in a down time. This is not a joke or meant to be a slur, it is true (check the redding record searchlight.
He didn't have anything to do, so offered to clean up a neighbor's yard, - full of dog poop. The man is a dog lover, and didn't have any problems with someone else's dog.
He now has a $50 a day business, honorable, and ingenious.
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saintetienne2 months, 3 weeks ago
(SIGHHHH....)
Leave it to NPR to ferret out the most down-trodden, accident-prone, irresponsible, government-dependent welfare recipients that they can find, then present them as indicative of what the entire COUNTRY is going through.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm frankly tired of these hard-luck, bleeding-heart stories that NPR, CNN and the rest of the "mainstream" media trots out. I don't know ANY people like the women described in this story. NOT ONE. I have a couple friends who are out of work, and a few other people I know who have had to curb their spending of late due to increased gas and food prices, but these women are NOT in any kind of a majority by any stretch. Most Americans are responsible, hard-working, problem-solving, intelligent people who aren't looking for any handouts.
To the women in this story, I say: Tough luck. Figure it out. Be responsible and stop looking to the government for all the answers.
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aniokly2 months, 3 weeks ago
There was a time in this country when we would have been proud to help these women take care of themselves until they didn't need us. They never stopped needing. This welfare mentality became a way of life for those people for generations. It is not good for them, and it is not good for the country
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questionseverything2 months, 3 weeks ago
accidental neg donald srry
i agree with u and find it funny that most these neo cons pretend to be Christian
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bigurn2 months, 3 weeks ago
From Vince Lombardi: "Success is not luck. Success is the intersection of opportunity and preparation. Therefore, success is a choice. Unfortunately, so is failure."
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Endoscopy2 months, 3 weeks ago
Since you have such a bad attitude about people I guess you keep your head where the sun doesn't shine.
Most people have compassion for those in real need. These two are horrid examples and when people say that you accuse them of having no compassion. They never looked for work. They have only lived on welfare.
A person or family who has had a disaster that has devastated them financially will have people wanting to give for them. The church I go to has a very large Mercy fund that helps people like that. They spend a lot of money helping needy people. We never give them money but provide food, pay bills, get cars fixed, give them a car, etc. These people are very grateful. They receive financial counseling and job placement to help them get back on their feet as soon as possible.
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aniokly2 months, 3 weeks ago
We had compassion50 years ago, but now it is 3 or 4 Generations later, and our compassion, and our patience has run out.
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ChrisLang2 months, 3 weeks ago
I grew up in Toledo and the city they are in is Fostoria, just south of there. I will tell you though, there IS no work to be had in Fostoria. It is a small town and what work was there disappeared in the early 80s along with the auto industry.
When I left Toledo in 88 there was 250,000 people there. Now there is less and nothing is expanding in the least in northwest Ohio. Fostoria must be a pit of unemployment and a terrible place to live now.
When you have no savings it is impossible to get out so these people are absolutely trapped in a life that is going nowhere.
I will AGREE though that they do not look the least bit underfed. I can see both sides of the coin here.
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fost2 months, 3 weeks ago
there is not much left of fostoria all the big industry has moved out but there are still some jobs we have three nursing homes one has expanded majorly two of them are just right down the street within walking distance of there apartment and there hireing we got out of fostoria clown houses apt.when we lived there some nights it was like a drivethrough at a fast food joint durring lunch rush lots of drug deals partying all night smashed liqiour bottles everywhere even gun fire brawls theyve been trying to clean up the city theyve been doing a decent job thanks to our NEW police chief and officers they need to tear down get rid of a lot of the bars beer joints DIVES it only gives the drug dealers a place to congragate
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fost2 months, 3 weeks ago
there are 2 nurseing homes across the street from ThyssenKrupp and there hireing seneca county is the county they live in they have public transportation its called scat they transport to Dr appointments jobs even to the grocery store they wont be able to trans port them and 50 bags of grocerys though we have a lot of charity organazations times are hard i admit but seneca county jobs and family services does a good job of taking care of the people lots of programs that will help them find employment even vouchers to buy clothing for school children and gas for those who work sounds like a con job
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Hobe2 months, 3 weeks ago
Ohioans Struggle to Buy Food in Uncertain Economy
This is BJ bill, and hillary country, it takes a village, in reality, it takes hard working American taxpayers to take care of these two and many like them....
Is it fair to say, if these two got a JOB all would be beter off..
What a Concept...
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JoseMadre2 months, 3 weeks ago
Looking at the two in the picture that accompanies the article, perhaps this is God's way of keeping them from having heart attacks? They must weigh 300 lbs. each.
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simonsez2 months, 3 weeks ago
The only people starving in this country are fashion models ...
Walk it off, ladies. Make yourself presentable to be employed . Take some pride in yourself ... you don't have to be the way you are. Make an effort to improve in some way.
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Justice4All2 months, 3 weeks ago
The look pretty well fed to me. I think it's time to stop paying people to breed and expect then to contribute to the system.
Taxpayers have rights too and it's time we spoke up. But I guess we are too busy supporting our families and paying taxes to be activists.
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icono12 months, 3 weeks ago
This kinda looks like two Welfare Queens playing the 'poor me card' when in reality they could be living better than most of here on this thread.
A long time ago I worked for a State Human Resources Dept and did some in house studies on welfare fraud. To no ones surprise a significant number of people on welfare did 'odd jobs' on a 'cash only' basis(This study did not include the females that stayed continuously pregnant to draw welfare benefits. That was a 'hands off' area.)
Now, that combined with with a wide and generous menu of gratis benefits from the State and Fed Govt, gave the 'welfare recipients' a slightly higher standard of living than most of us doing legit work and paying taxes.
So there are people that 'work' the system to their advantage and to a degree this is known about and tolerated.
However, there are people that did need the help and they got it also. Usually though, they would leave the system as soon as they could, which is when they would find a job.
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CactusAnnie2 months, 3 weeks ago
"Not Yours To Give", Col. David Crockett, US Representative from Tennessee
One day in the House of Representatives a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose:
"Mr. Speaker--I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has not the power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member on this floor knows it.
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CactusAnnie2 months, 3 weeks ago
"We have the right as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I ever heard that the government was in arrears to him.
"Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks."
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CactusAnnie2 months, 3 weeks ago
He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost.
Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation:
"Several years ago I was one evening standing on the steps of the Capitol with some members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a great light over in Georgetown. It was evidently a large fire. We jumped into a hack and drove over as fast as we could. In spite of all that could be done, many houses were burned and many families made houseless, and besides, some of them had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was very cold, and when I saw so many children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them.
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